Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[925boy]

Even analysts who are anti war are saying that, yes, standoffish missiles maybe in low quantities but no shortage of relatively dumb bombs dropped from heavy bombers. Dropping them in some Dresden style probably will not capitulate Iran but will kill a lot of innocent people. A lot! Plus of course destroying much infra and buildings. Iranians are negotiating to avoid that; the leadership is responsible to its citizens despite all the propaganda against it.

Those dumb bombs won't destroy the missile cities, so US and Israel will also be receiving painful bombsings from Iran while they attack Iran.

Also, US doesn't have enough bombs to bomb irans infrastructure effectively while retaining enough bombs in reserve for a potential China scrnario.

Finally, US doesn't have enough bombs to kill enough iranians- iranians- are ready anddefinant and US can't break their will, hence why US has stopped bombing and can't win the war.
Also, Russia and China will never standby while US finishes off Iran.

US has turned into a borderline dumb nation(especially strategically), look at its actions and their results. Stupidity has a cost.

 

[BHAN85]

No. The propagation of the seismic waves generated is according to different patterns.

If I were Iran, I had built underground test facilities next to major faults.

Natural earthquake has a first strong S wave, and then P weak waves.
Nuclear earthquake has a first strong P wave, and then S weak waves.

So a nuclear earthquake can be programmed to start when a S strong wave of natural earthquake is detected. So the P wave of nuclear earthquake it will be mix to P wave of natural earthquake.

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[VCheng]

If I were Iran, I had built underground test facilities next to major faults.

Natural earthquake has a first strong S wave, and then P weak waves.
Nuclear earthquake has a first strong P wave, and then S weak waves.

So a nuclear earthquake can be programmed to start when a S strong wave of natural earthquake is detected. So the P wave of nuclear earthquake it will be mix to P wave of natural earthquake.

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So you want to tie in scheduling a test with a prediction of when the next earthquake will occur, given their inherent unpredictability, just keep the detection by seismic waves to a minimum?

Okay, then, problem solved, I guess.



(The physics of the energy expansion and propagation are totally different and detectable.)

 

[FUB]

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Persian Gulf]

That number almost certainly includes 24 MQ-9 drones

 

[Homajon]

The smartest investment Irans military ever did!

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[FUB]

 

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[ShapurII]

A natural earthquake could be a opportunity to conceal the test of a nuclear weapon.

The seismic patterns will be different. Also, the depth of a nuclear explosion is not much. Nobody digs 10 km to test a nuke. The depths of these earthquakes were in the 8km-10km range. Too deep for a nuclear test.

For comparison, the deepest man-made hole in the world, "the Kola well" in Russia, is only 12km deep and it took the Soviets 5 years to dig the first half of it.

 

[Yasser76]

That number almost certainly includes 24 MQ-9 drones

Even taking into account the drones that leaves 15 manned aircraft!!!!!!

 

[Ak01]

During the 12-day war, multiple Iranian aircraft (tankers and cargo) were sheltered at Karachi Airport, so i wouldn't rule it out. Anyways, here's a video of an IRIAF C-130 on approach to Chaklala, they slipped in quietly around the time of the Vance visit.

yes, i saw first hand the iranian 747 tankers parked in karachi.

 

[rafale]

yes, i saw first hand the iranian 747 tankers parked in karachi.

Their civilian airliners were also parked in Pakistan, last year and this year too. Many were parked at Lahore.

 

[Yasser76]

Very very interesting timing with Trump in Beijing, but also look at the wording of the below statement by Yi to FM Dar

"China’s top diplomat urged Pakistan to step up mediation efforts between Iran and the United States, and to help “properly” address the reopening of the Hormuz strait, Chinese state media said on Wednesday"

China urges Pakistan step up mediation in Middle East: state media

BEIJING: China’s top diplomat urged Pakistan to step up mediation efforts between Iran and the United States, and to help “properly” address the reopening of the Hormuz strait, Chinese state media said on Wednesday. Foreign Minister Wang Yi spoke to his Pakistani counterpart Ishaq Dar in a call...

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Chinese were annoyed that maybe we did a side deal with Iran to allow Pak bound ships through and China was not included, and suddenly many Chinese ships are sailing through. Funny huh!?