Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

But we have known that. I’m assuming you think the regime should build a nuclear weapon, but that’ll take close to at least a year to build.

I'm afraid that ship has long sailed. Iran is currently incapable of accessing fissile material for a nuclear weapon.

Our 60% enriched uranium is in the form of UF6 gas, most likely damaged in the last year's strikes on our nuclear facilities. That's why Trump calls it "nuclear dust". The UF6 gas containers have been damaged most likely and it won't be easy to recover them.

That aside, our uranium conversion facilities have been destroyed. Even if we can access our 60%-HEU, it's still in the form of UF6 gas and has to be converted into uranium metal before it can be used in a nuclear device.

And we are assuming that Iran is already in possession of the technical know-how to assemble an implosion device, which is likely to be true but there's no guarantee that Iran's assembled device won't be a dud without a hot test.

If you were one of the decision makers in Iran, how would you respond to Israel's attacks in the coming days? What specific actions would you take as a part of the response?

I would go for Israeli infrastructure in tit for tat moves. Their petrochemical plants, refineries, water desalination plants, power plants. Not just in Israel, but throughout the region. Iran's only advantage against Israel is our sheer size and our number of vital infrastructure compared to Israel. They hit two of Iran's largest petrochemical plants today. I would hit two of their petrochemical plants or refineries in response.

I would heavily invest in bio-chemical weapons for the time being. Iran has top-notch knowledge in chemical weapons at least even though we have never produced them for ethical reasons. They are better than nothing after all. Right now Iran is defenseless when it comes to WMDs.

 

[Immortals]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[Immortals]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[ShapurII]

Feels like TP-1/2/3 were much harsher for Israel compared to TP 4/5.
IRGC's work has been commendable considering the size of her opponents.
But look at the way they talk, they probably don't even achieve 10% of what they say before launching any attack on Israel.

I think TP4 was rather focused on neighboring countries than Israel itself, which was a wise move at the time, but this time Iran needs to focus on Israel more than anybody else.

If Iran doesn't teach Israel a lesson, Israel will go against Iran solo next times, effectively denying Iran the excuse to respond to the US or Arab states near us. The US will continue to enforce a blockade on Iran, while Arabs will be just innocent bystanders unlike the last time.

 

[Immortals]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

So not True Promise 5

 

[Immortals]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

We shall see what happens over the next 6-9 hours.

I’m expecting another Iranian missile salvo within the next 1-2 hours.

 

[OldTwilight]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

We shall see what happens over the next 6-9 hours.

I’m expecting another Iranian missile salvo within the next 1-2 hours.

you mean 6-9 weeks !?

 

[unconventional]

I would go for Israeli infrastructure in tit for tat moves. Their petrochemical plants, refineries, water desalination plants, power plants.

But how can you reliably hit them/get direct impacts when their multi-layered air defence systems haven’t neared depletion at this point?

Intercepted missiles over Israeli critical infrastructure will not be helping Iran at this point.

I’m not asking for a wishlist, I’m asking about the very specific approach needed to ensure maximum success.

 

[Lulldapull]

Not really. The USAF will establish air superiority over our airspace and neighboring countries in less than 24 hours, completely neutralizing our CAS and logistics.

From where? If Iran takes over the nearest airfields in Iraq/ Kuwait and heavily damages the remaining ones in Bahrain/ UAE/ Gutter..... with sustained attacks? Takes out all the utilities and water/ power?

Then what?

 

[KAL-EL]

Nukes don't work like that.

Of course they don't. But this member like some other members here seem to live in a video game mentality.

 

[ShapurII]

But how can you reliably hit them/get direct impacts when their multi-layered air defence systems haven’t neared depletion at this point?

Drones, cruise missiles and BMs. They are nearing depletion in my opinion. They were pretty close to that before the ceasefire and I doubt the situation has fundamentally changed since then. The only question is if Iran has enough drones, cruise missiles and BMs left or not. If Iran has more than 5K MRBMs and 10K drones left, we're good to go.

Intercepted missiles over Israeli critical infrastructure will not be helping Iran at this point.

We don't know how many of our missiles have been intercepted. Nobody does.

I’m not asking for a wishlist, I’m asking about the very specific approach needed to ensure maximum success.

That's the only approach that Iran can take. As I said, Iran's only advantage, one and only advantage, is our sheer size. Other than that, we are far behind Israel in every other aspect. We need to employ our size and strategic depth to win this war.

 

[F.O.X]

It would be a huge mistake for Iran to target Gulf energy infrastructure right now. As things stand, the focus is squarely on Israeli aggression, but striking regional neighbors like KSA would completely isolate Tehran. An attack on KSA would also force Pakistan to instantly drop its role as a neutral mediator and give full support to Riyadh. If Iran wants to hurt Netanyahu's government without triggering a major regional blowback, targeting Israel's own energy infrastructure is the only logical move.

 

[ShapurII]

From where? If Iran takes over the nearest airfields in Iraq/ Kuwait and heavily damages the remaining ones in Bahrain/ UAE/ Gutter..... with sustained attacks? Takes out all the utilities and water/ power?

Then what?

An air base is not like some football field that you can destroy with a couple of successful hits. Iran can throw everything it has on the US military air fields in nearby countries and still that won't completely destroy them, maybe render them inoperable for a few days/weeks at best. Also, the US has +11 aircraft carriers for a reason.

Look at Iran's Mehrabad airport, for example. It has been hit quite severely multiple times in the last two wars between Israel, Iran and the US. It was operational before today's skirmishes, after all the bombings it had endured.

 

[mangekyo]

The Islamic Republic is too kind with the Iraqis.

I can apply the same line of logic to Kuwait, Bahrain or Qatar. What do you want them to do when the US uses their territory to attack us? By that logic, we should have never attacked them either.

Israel had 2 forward bases in Iraq to operate against Iran. Two that we already know about because they were exposed, there's probably more. Iraq has been doing nothing to stop Israeli activities against Iran, not even diplomatically.
Yet, Iran exempted Iraq from the Strait of Hormuz tolls. The only country that was fully exempted. Why? Why are we rewarding Iraq for being the launch platform of nearly all Israeli strikes on Iran?

Technically we need to bomb Lebanon too, but we can’t go on and bomb everyone.

 

[ShapurII]

Technically we need to bomb Lebanon too, but we can’t go on and bomb everyone.

Why? Lebanon is fighting Israel on our behalf. Weird counter-example.