Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FUB]

Prof Mirandi is a de facto mouthpiece for the hardline factions in Iran .
He just told JD Vance we are doing the same thing and getting ready for round three .

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[BHAN85]

Prof Mirandi is a de facto mouthpiece for the hardline factions in Iran .
He just told JD Vance we are doing the same thing and getting ready for round three .

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Of course Iran are doing it, they would be suicidal if they weren't doing that.

Of course USA knows it and allow it.

And if you take as hypothesis that USA wants destabilization in the zone and they dont want to win, it fits perfectly.

USA bombs, they piss off everybody, they give money to enemy after bombing them, to allow them to keep manufacturing more weapons and bombs for next weapons.

What a wonderful troll empire in his final decline.

 

[Meengla]

You can’t take $300 million from the Jewish mob lady and walk away .

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The $300 million campaign contribution by Miriam Adelson is so over rated: Trump / family has made around $2 billion in Crypto since becoming the POTUS and the war, per NY Times, has cost America 'at least $132 billion' so far.
I can't figure out what was/is the most important factor in Trump's excessive love for Israel: Family ties, racism, campaign contribution, Epstein Files, personal Zionism... probably a combination of such factors, on top of some US strategic goals that Israel delivers (intelligence sharing, Petro Dollar, weapons research).

 

[Arash]

Of course Iran are doing it, they would be suicidal if they weren't doing that.

Of course USA knows it and allow it.

And if you take as hypothesis that USA wants destabilization in the zone and they dont want to win, it fits perfectly.

USA bombs, they piss off everybody, they give money to enemy after bombing them, to allow them to keep manufacturing more weapons and bombs for next weapons.

What a wonderful troll empire in his final decline.

Iran should NOT accept ANY ceasefire next time and push until whole GCC and west collapse + build the nukes ASAP

 

[Flotilla]

No - the opposite is true. The deep state is getting further into bed with Israel via Section 224 which is progressing unchanged into law!

Read this : https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/05/congress-us-israel-legislation

It is a form of paratism... What the hell...

 

[BHAN85]

Iran should NOT accept ANY ceasefire next time and push until whole GCC and west collapse + build the nukes ASAP

Why? It's good for Iran get money from USA trolls.

Anyway Iran can't never achieve effective deterrence because USA mainland is too far, and the current USA ruling elite seems to dont give a fck about Israel or GCC vassals.

Iran should exploit those USA backstabbings to allies.

 

[BonPlan]

Iran should NOT accept ANY ceasefire next time and push until whole GCC and west collapse + build the nukes ASAP

badly engaged.
Hopefully for Iran Trump changed of idea every day and initiate a war without well define ojective, and too late so as to obtain the population support.
A leader as Reagan or Bush the father would have finished the job.

 

[Immortals]

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[BHAN85]

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"POTUS has committed the U.S. to muzzling its pets in Tel Aviv. If they ignore their master, Iran will school them." Araghchi

Meanwhile Israeli rabid dog

It's to notice how a Iranian high ranking sees clearly the real picture, contrary to USA mainstream bullshit in x/forums: Israel is the useful idiots of USA, the pet of his American master.

 

[Professor Jiang]

It's to notice how a Iranian high ranking sees clearly the real picture, contrary to USA mainstream bullshit in x/forums: Israel is the useful idiots of USA, the pet of his American master.

If this were true though, what would be the point in AIPAC and any number of the Israeli mega-donors?

I think this perception among some Iranians that Israel is only doing America's bidding dates back to Nasrallah's conversation with Chomsky on the issue, where the latter was able to convince him that it was the US controlling Israel and not vice-versa.

 

[BHAN85]

If this were true though, what would be the point in AIPAC and any number of the Israeli mega-donors?

I think this perception among some Iranians that Israel is only doing America's bidding dates back to Nasrallah's conversation with Chomsky on the issue, where the latter was able to convince him that it was the US controlling Israel and not vice-versa.

Araghchi must have access to best information sources than any forum/x user.

And of course those information sources are Iran intel services, it's not Chomsky, the Epstein friend, more Made in USA bullshit.

AIPAC are in USA, they dont live in Israel. They have own interests, they are not the saviors of Israel.

 

[Arash]

badly engaged.
Hopefully for Iran Trump changed of idea every day and initiate a war without well define ojective, and too late so as to obtain the population support.
A leader as Reagan or Bush the father would have finished the job.

Bush father and son have both failed in middle east... very bad examples... La guerre va pas aider les U.S. d'avantage... ils sont pas partis pour gagner...

 

[Meengla]

If this were true though, what would be the point in AIPAC and any number of the Israeli mega-donors?
I think this perception among some Iranians that Israel is only doing America's bidding dates back to Nasrallah's conversation with Chomsky on the issue, where the latter was able to convince him that it was the US controlling Israel and not vice-versa.

It has/had been a symbiotic relationship. No doubt, Israel served some regional American goals for decades. But with the Fall of the Soviet Union, Israel's importance had greatly diminished. Americans wanted to have a dominant Israel after 1991 but not a rabid dog. Attempts like the Oslo Accords in the 90s, not long after the Soviets fell, were not coincidence: They reflected America's desire to largely disengage from the region to concentrate on other regions of the world. But, of course, Israelis are too Messianic and too expansionist to control themselves.
There had been many reasons for the Americans to support Israel but always far fewer reasons for the Americans to be dragged into Israel's expansionist and Messianic goals.

 

[Professor Jiang]

Araghchi must have access to best information sources than any forum/x user.

And of course those information sources are Iran intel services, it's not Chomsky, the Epstein friend, more Made in USA bullshit.

AIPAC are in USA, they dont live in Israel. They have own interests, they are not the saviors of Israel.

I think you're taking Araqchi too literally here. He's publicly embarassing the Americans more than he is saying anything based in any top secret information or whatever. By challenging the Americans to reign in the Israelis, he is both calling the Israelis small fry and daring Trump to put them in line. This does not mean that IRGC or whoever genuinely thinks the Israelis exist only as a proxy for the Americans.

I think Mearsheimer and Walt have a much more modern and relevant view of Israel.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

The war will start again obviously. They are now openly saying what the plan is

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That is funny. Forked tongues were apparent all along. They just wanted the world to start feigning in unison.
Lebanon is facing annihilation... and the worst case scenario is that all it's Christian populations emigrate while the state in name only... with reduced borders is reduced to small fiefs. Similar scenario is faced by both Syria and Iraq however to a slightly lesser degree. Zion considers Turkiye as unreliable and fears a direct confrontation. Orange will wreck fhe economy, his fate worse then Hoover... and his messes left for upcoming administrations to undo and unwind.