Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Cateusm]

Not necessarily. Turkey is not a threat, Saudi Arabia is not a threat, Imperial Iran wasn't a threat, Japan which has been historically much more successful than Iran in modern times is not a threat. Germany which attempted to rule over entire Europe twice is not a threat. Why should a US-allied Iran be a threat? That's a claim without any historical backup or proof.

Military, economic or technological threats are not the only threats Iran is the enemy of Israel and Israel controlled US. There is an important factor people remove from the equation which plays a crucial role in the heads of US and Israeli leaders namely, ideology. The Zionist entity and Christo-Zionists in US believe in the destruction of Iran to establish the greater Israel and return of Messiah. They are trying to fulfill a prophecy by dividing and destroying Iran. Friend or Foe, they will go for it.

• Destruction of military strength: “I will break the bow of Elam, the foremost of their might” (Jeremiah 49:35), symbolizing the collapse of Elam’s military power
• Scattering of the people: The prophecy states that Elam’s exiles will be dispersed to all nations, indicating a comprehensive exile (Jeremiah 49:36)
• Overthrow of leadership: God declares He will destroy the king and princes and set His throne in Elam, emphasizing divine authority over human rulers (Jeremiah 49:37–38)

They believe the current Iran is a continuation of the old Elam and they want to destroy it.

 

[Samlee]

Trump might be talking shit but on his fox news interview he said usa soldiers won't likely be used as ground campaign but he has others who will.

Who are these others? Kurds? Azeris? Baloch?

I Think Kurds Ahwazi Arabs and Baloch.Maybe Banking Upon Ethnic Minority Regions Carving Out Puppet States Along Vital Coastal Areas To Neutralize Iran's Ability To Control Hormuz.

That May Be Their Thinking But Any Such Move Might Trigger Pakistani and Turkish Intervention

 

[retaxis]

I Think Kurds Ahwazi Arabs and Baloch.Maybe Banking Upon Ethnic Minority Regions Carving Out Puppet States Along Vital Coastal Areas To Neutralize Iran's Ability To Control Hormuz.

That May Be Their Thinking But Any Such Move Might Trigger Pakistani and Turkish Intervention

Yes a lot to go wrong and blow up ethnic tensions and even more war spilling over into Turkey, Azerbaijan and Iraq if trump does this.

 

[Nawnaw1]

The USAF would need 10 air forces to give so called close air support over the entire iranian southern coast, especially with their land bases not being able to be freely used. this is all a pipe dream. zero evidence on the ground.

 

[ShapurII]

Military, economic or technological threats are not the only threats Iran is the enemy of Israel and Israel controlled US. There is an important factor people remove from the equation which plays a crucial role in the heads of US and Israeli leaders namely, ideology. The Zionist entity and Christo-Zionists in US believe in the destruction of Iran to establish the greater Israel and return of Messiah. They are trying to fulfill a prophecy by dividing and destroying Iran. Friend or Foe, they will go for it.

• Destruction of military strength: “I will break the bow of Elam, the foremost of their might” (Jeremiah 49:35), symbolizing the collapse of Elam’s military power
• Scattering of the people: The prophecy states that Elam’s exiles will be dispersed to all nations, indicating a comprehensive exile (Jeremiah 49:36)
• Overthrow of leadership: God declares He will destroy the king and princes and set His throne in Elam, emphasizing divine authority over human rulers (Jeremiah 49:37–38)

They believe the current Iran is a continuation of the old Elam and they want to destroy it.

What a load of nonsense. Iran was Israel's partner just 47 years ago and Iran was the world's 12th economy at the time. You guys talk like people have forgotten how things were just 5 decades ago. Maybe this sort of biblical nonsense can fool some people 2 centuries later, but not now.

 

[RescueRanger]

C17 left Edwards AFB now approaching London Control via Shannon (Ireland)

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This C17 is worth watching given the current tempo of the conflict.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I think hitting a moving target is far more difficult than hitting a fixed point. These ships can move very fast esp at flank speed. Ballistic missiles are completely useless against moving targets anyway.

There is one catch though... everytime they've used up their compliment of interceptors... they have to make the long journey back.

 

[Nawnaw1]

What a load of nonsense. Iran was Israel's partner just 47 years ago and Iran was the world's 12th economy at the time. You guys talk like people have forgotten how things were just 5 decades ago. Maybe this sort of biblical nonsense can fool some people 2 centuries later, but not now.

Look dude, you don´t know what you´re talking about and never have. You´re too emotional and too light on the substance.

Go google how the US was starting to turn against Iran DURING the so called ´shah´s reign. Yes. That´s why he was kicked out. He started becoming too ambitious for western tastes. Talking about islands, about middle east hegemony etc. Only then did the big nosed rat start talking about jewish influence in american politics. By then it was obvious they'd regime change iran.

You're really not fit to discuss anything here if you don't understand the main goals of the west, namelijk make everything small and manageable in the middle east. Arabs they can handle, Arabs aren't worth a piece of empty paper (I mean the PGCC Arabs). They're just a gas station and piggybank for the west. But Iraq? Decimated. Syria? Decimated. Egypt? Fully contained. And Egypt is almost fully homogenous, so difficult to tear that apart.

And Turkey is a difficult one for them too. But I promise, if the west succeeds, they'll fck up Turkey or try very hard to. No big countries with a lot of potential are allowed. No matter if they're super democracies, religious, nationalist, whatever.

It indeed has nothing to do with biblical prophecies, that's just childtalk. It has to do with a terribly weakening West, that knows it's can stay dominant in the region and therefore it needs to cut things up to at least have a say in the future. It's simple divide and conquer. Those who can't see this need a doctor.

 

[BananaRepublic]

What if the Iranians don't got a battalion sized force guarding them 17 Islands each? Dug in deep underground bunkers with ammo storage/ food/ supplies and drones/ LM's at their disposal?

What if?

What if Iran hasn't even considered that possibility of Trump landing his troops on dem 17 islands?

It'll be a total disaster no?

@Master Chief @ShapurII @shapurzolaktaf @BananaRepublic @Watandar @PK781 @hussain0216 @FUB ........Iran will get punk'd yet again!

You know it........

Irans goin have to get into the GCC! to relieve da pressure no?

I expect full unload on GCC if Iran is invaded.

No other plan needed.

Then guerrilla war like Afghanistan

 

[Nawnaw1]

I expect full unload on GCC if Iran is invaded.

No other plan needed.

Then guerrilla war like Afghanistan

Full onload indeed, and fully onloading on the islands haha. Thinking the US can sit on those islands and relax is utterly insane. That's why it won't happen. Oh, and no ships and choppers will make it anywhere near the islands. It's a pipe dream. This is just a pressure tactic for better terms, disguised as a prelude to an invasion. Same with the C130s that blew up, trying to find a single airman. Shoor.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

What a load of nonsense. Iran was Israel's partner just 47 years ago and Iran was the world's 12th economy at the time. You guys talk like people have forgotten how things were just 5 decades ago. Maybe this sort of biblical nonsense can fool some people 2 centuries later, but not now.

Israelis believe in this nonsense... They take it literally. Israelis are a barbaric bunch like ISIS and dont understand partnership or anything.

 

[bafxet]

Strait of Hormuz belongs to Iran

It's Iran's right to close it when it is attacked for by the US and it's allies

Might is right. You will get it if you have the firepower

 

[BananaRepublic]

People all over the internet have been sweating over the bill which would sort of 'merge' the US and the Israeli militaries. Some say it is the last ditch attempt by the Israelis to further dig their claws into America as the Israeli influence is fading; look at what NY Times said about 'dramatic' change in the Democratic Party.
I see no way the Republicans are going to get the 60 Senators to vote for such a bill, though who knows about the

Israelis believe in this nonsense... They take it literally. Israelis are a barbaric bunch like ISIS and dont understand partnership or anything.

Which explains their 3000 years of wondering and being enslaved.

And failure to forge a nation that made it past a century.

They just do not posses the skills required for nation building.

 

[Lulldapull]

Israelis believe in this nonsense... They take it literally. Israelis are a barbaric bunch like ISIS and dont understand partnership or anything.

So if they've knocked out Kish power/ desal among other infra, this means trump wants to take it because Kish is very touristy.

Maybe Kushner the tranny he wants it no? or that Witkoff for making it his own Israeli resort:

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[VCheng]

those are aerial escorts which Iran lacks the air defence means to attack. America's naval blockade relies on CSGs in the Arabian Sea at least 300km away from Iran's coasts.

That makes sense, thank you for the clairifcaiton.

It also serves to highlight the huge advantage that accrues to the side that can dominate the air space over the area of operations.