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If you are so advanced, why struggling to have F35 ? a costly, not fully fonctionnal and >20 years old jet...

Turkiye joined the F-35 program as a global partner in 2008
and we paid for 6 F-35s and we are waiting for our F-35s since 2018


and The F-35 is a 5th gen Fighter
old RAFALE , SU-35 , J-10C can not match with the F-35 in BVR combat
not even close

 

[MMM-E]

Really.....
Turkey was making mainly pottery and rugs when France was studying and producing electronic counter measures and counter counter measures to enter in the USSR air space.

Then show us French version of Turkish KORAL-200 and ASOJ-23A , instead of French pasta and wine

 

[Corax]

Really.....
Turkey was making mainly pottery and rugs when France was studying and producing electronic counter measures and counter counter measures to enter in the USSR air space.

Really froggie, making snide remarks about Turkey? At least Turkey is making a fifth gen, where's France's? Your rafails got thrashed by the PAF using just a few J10Cs.

 

[Yasser76]

@Musings Do we not ban this clown now? Every thread he comes into turns into a shitshow. This thread was a goldmine of solid info and informed debate

 

[RescueRanger]

Sorry guys there was a bad smell in this thread. It's gone now, it's been thread banned.

 

[Yasser76]

Sorry guys there was a bad smell in this thread. It's gone now, it's been thread banned.

He will just pull the same shit on other threads now....

 

[RescueRanger]

He will just pull the same shit on other threads now....

He is speed limited. Let him try it. It's an easy ban <3

 

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How to beat RAFALE in BVR combat ?



Step 1: The Electronic Veil (The ASOJ-23A’s role)

The ASOJ-23A acts as the umbrella for the entire operation. It flies safely deep inside friendly territory, outside the engagement range of the RAFALE's Meteor missiles.

Blinding the RBE2 Radar: The ASOJ-23A uses high-power AESA noise-jamming and digital deception across a broad frequency band. It floods the Rafale’s RBE2 AESA radar with hundreds of false targets and immense electronic noise

Disrupting Communications: The ASOJ-23A actively jams the Rafale's tactical data links (Link-16) and V/UHF radio communications. This cuts the Rafale off from its own AEW&C support and ground control, forcing the French jet to fight completely isolated.


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Step 2: Safe Over-the-Horizon Tracking (The E-7T AEW&C’s role)

While the ASOJ-23A is creating electronic chaos, the E-7T AEW&C serves as the airborne battle management command center.

• Unprecedented L-Band Detection: The E-7T uses a powerful MESA Radar. Because it operates on a different frequency spectrum than tactical fighter radars, it can peer through the clutter and comfortably track the incoming Rafale from hundreds of km away. ( 350 km )

• Silent Networking: The E-7T calculates the exact vector, speed, and altitude of the RAFALE. Instead of broadcasting this data openly, it safely transmits the targeting information via a secure, unjammable directional data link directly to the KIZILELMA.

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Step 3: Stealth Insertion (The KIZILELMA’s role)

Because the E-7T is providing all the tracking data, the KIZILELMA flies toward the RAFALE with its own MURAD AESA Radar completely turned off

• Ghost In the Noise: The Rafale’s SPECTRA electronic warfare suite is designed to detect incoming radar waves. Because KIZILELMA is flying "radar silent" and boasts a low-observable, stealth design, the Rafale's sensors register absolutely nothing

• The Launch (The Kill Shot) : E-7T data-link inputs, the KIZILELMA launches a long range BVR air to air Missile, such as the 185+ km GOKBORA ramjet powered air to air Missile

The Rafale's SPECTRA suite will only detect the missile in its final seconds when the missile's terminal seeker kicks on .. and GAME OVER !



The amazing trio
ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft
E-7T AEWC
KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet


Pakistan buys ASOJ-23A from Turkiye
Pakistan operates a large fleet of Saab Erieye AEWC
Pakistan has its own link-17 data link
PL-15 long range air to air Missile
If Pakistan buys KIZILELMA, Indian RAFALE Jets will face a very serious threat.

 

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TRUMP 'pissed off' by Netanyahu's criticism of F-35 sales to Türkiye

The US president refused to schedule a meeting with Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu after the Israeli leader publicly criticized American plans to sell F-35 fighter jets to Türkiye.

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Türkiye aims to take delivery of these 6 F-35s, which have been stored in US warehouses for approximately eight years, in the first phase, provided that CAATSA sanctions are lifted.


Following the initial acquisition of 6 F-35A , Türkiye's long-term goal is to procure approximately 40 F-35s to modernize its fleet.

 

[Ali_Baba]

TRUMP 'pissed off' by Netanyahu's criticism of F-35 sales to Türkiye

The US president refused to schedule a meeting with Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu after the Israeli leader publicly criticized American plans to sell F-35 fighter jets to Türkiye.

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Türkiye aims to take delivery of these 6 F-35s, which have been stored in US warehouses for approximately eight years, in the first phase, provided that CAATSA sanctions are lifted.


Following the initial acquisition of 6 F-35A , Türkiye's long-term goal is to procure approximately 40 F-35s to modernize its fleet.

Are the pilots that were originally trained on them, still in the pilot pipeline ? Getting them re-qualified shouldn't take that long if they had gone through the course already, they would need a refresher course.

 

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Are the pilots that were originally trained on them, still in the pilot pipeline ? Getting them re-qualified shouldn't take that long if they had gone through the course already, they would need a refresher course.

Turkish pilots who have received F-35 training are still actively serving in the Turkish Air Force

These pilots are ready as pipeline and approximately 3 to 5 months of simulator training will be required

btw , The F-35s that the Turkish pilots flew in 2019 had Block 3F software. Today, F-35s have Block 4 architecture

Greece buys F-35 Block4