Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Given the precarious state of the global economy - you don’t need oil at $100 to collapse it.

$85 will do it.

Global economy and global markets were surprisingly resilient the last time around, ok I'm sure a lot of economic pain will unravel in the future, but is the oil supply control thesis turning out to be a bit hyped?

Because it's not as if Iranian capacity is not being hurt as well
 
Has the US really moved enough new capability types in theatre to conduct a new and different type of operation than what it has done before for this weekend ?
I am not so sure but i think rescue ranger posted earlier today that a large flotilla of tankers and fighter jets are en route to the middle east from europe and usa
 
I don’t support what he is advocating.

But if Trump disrupts Iran’s food supply - all bets will be off.

Starving people cannot be held “morally accountable”.
So starve a third country?

Trump and his crew are laughing their heads off that in this war against Iran Arab countries are taking the Iranian rage as a substitute for USA.


You can tread the previous Iranian line of taking out American infrastructure at the pain of disruption and unrest for a few months..... But if you go beyond that line that is just an admission of a losing strategy.
 
Global economy and global markets were surprisingly resilient the last time around, ok I'm sure a lot of economic pain will unravel in the future, but is the oil supply control thesis turning out to be a bit hyped?

Because it's not as if Iranian capacity is not being hurt as well

Oil market doesn’t care about where oil comes from.

It’s priced on total capacity.

So, if Iranian oil is also hit - just compounds the crisis.
 
So starve a third country?

Trump and his crew are laughing their heads off that in this war against Iran Arab countries are taking the Iranian rage as a substitute for USA.


You can tread the previous Iranian line of taking out American infrastructure at the pain of disruption and unrest for a few months..... But if you go beyond that line that is just an admission of a losing strategy.
These Arab states are enabling US attacks against Iranian critical infrastructure. The proper and logical response is to show these Arab states that if they do that, they will face the same fate.
 
better to keep Israel out of this for now until Iran can degrade US bases in the region

Kuwait
Bahrain
Jordan
Qatar
Iraq
UAE
Saudi Arabia

in this order. there is a lot to get through

Iraq before UAE and Saudi Arabia? There is barely any U.S. bases left in Iraq and they are leaving in 8 weeks.

Saudi Arabia needs to #1 on the list. That’s where the AWACs and tankers are flying from to support the Persian Gulf operations. Not all tankers come from Israel/Jordan.
 
Iraq before UAE and Saudi Arabia? There is barely any U.S. bases left in Iraq and they are leaving in 8 weeks.

Saudi Arabia needs to #1 on the list. That’s where the AWACs and tankers are flying from to support the Persian Gulf operations. Not all tankers come from Israel/Jordan.
Saudi Arabia has more of a capability to respond, and complicates things with Pakistan.

focus on the smaller countries first.

Iraq still has many assets that Iran has not touched (especially in Baghdad). and it remains the main route for any possible Kurdish incursion (which I don't think is likely at this point, but still).
 
So starve a third country?

Trump and his crew are laughing their heads off that in this war against Iran Arab countries are taking the Iranian rage as a substitute for USA.


You can tread the previous Iranian line of taking out American infrastructure at the pain of disruption and unrest for a few months..... But if you go beyond that line that is just an admission of a losing strategy.

They aren’t really “third countries”! They are client states.

You really are fretting over whether to hit California or Texas because of their political hue.

It’s all US!
 
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Iran doesn't have to sink US Navy ships if it can deny them port radar and satellite guidance, logistics, resupply, and refuelling.

Iran's military objective is clear: Force US military to leave all regional bases and ports.
 

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