Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

030292 said:
I think israeli bombings in doha last year might have brought qataries into their senses which is why we are not hearing a lot of condemnation directed at iran by qatar despite their base al udeid getting pounded for the past couple of days, they might even secretly be happy about it.

Personally i am not a fan of these defence agreements with arabs, they seem too trigger happy and far too entrenched in the western bloc to have a defence agreement with them that makes you legally bound to fight their useless wars against your own muslim brethren.
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Their Achilles heel is trillions locked in western financial system... one that can cause them to squeal in a pinch. Their money was wanted... they were not!

They just assumed it was them!
 
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
Yeh, lol right... quite the post and context... otherwise useless distraction... to what end?
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It's sort of relevant to know your previous positions on the matter, particularly when you start to accuse others of being devoid of facts and nuances. Don't you agree?

Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
You do understand that Iraq itself has to be supported via logistics... ones that have to make their way first to Basra... or overland via Jordan or Turkiye...
If you have a working solution... send it to cent com... maybe they it solves their problems.
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You do understand that you just wrote nonsense, right?

Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
Lol, right... Iraq then had amongst the largest standing armies backed by the collective... against a post revolution Iran... one where he assumed gave him advantage... where he could play the Arab nationalism card...

Just forget about it...
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Oh, OK. Sorry, I didn't know that the US had one of the smallest armies in the world and relied on the pocket money from Arabs to survive, unlike Iraq in the 80s which had the biggest, most powerful army in the world with the world's bestest economy. OK lol
 
Magi said:
It was signed rapidly with Saudis so it seems likely they will sign with Kuwait too. Meanwhile Pakistan for decades hasn't had the ability to use IP and bring cheap and readily available energy to the energy starved and poverty stricken Pakistani people. I will keep my opinion to myself as nationalism will lead to blind backlash. Please continue.
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Kuwait had Banned Visas for Pakistanis for 20 years. Its a wishful report most probably, we have serious issues going in in two of our provinces. Kuwait can f off, a certain group wishes to see pakistan getting involved in fighting with Iran but our establishement is well aware of the realities.
 
Bratva said:
When Iran made allianc with Houthis, Assad of Syria and Hezbollah and Iraqi militias.
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An “alliance” and a defensive pact are two completely different things. Iran wasn’t selling itself for some oil and money because its cannot manage its finances due to the military junta controlling policy.

In fact, the alliance with Houthi’s, Assad, HZ, and Iraqi all cost Iran money, blood, and military equipment and were done to push back against U.S./Israeli hegemony. Iran didn’t get in any lucrative business deals in return and in fact had to donate energy to Lebanon, Syria, and Venezuela to keep those counties afloat.

What Pakistan is doing now with Saudi Arabia and possibly Kuwait is becoming a mercenary force that can be bought by the highest bidder. There is not strategic alignment nor common enemy. So comparing Iran’s foreign policy with Pakistan’s is completely asinine.

Bratva said:
I never seen Iranians or people who criticizing, complain about those shody alliances.
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Then you need to leave this forum and open your horizons. Because the Axis of Resistance is divided topic inside Iran due to the aforementioned resources and capital it sucked up from Iranian coffers.

Bratva said:
Iranians and non-Pakistanis has no right to criticize anything that Pakistan thinks is best for herself. If anyone wants to criticize start with your own country and the alliances you've made or gonna make.
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Go sell yourself and become a mercenary force for some barrels of oil and few billion dollars in loans. Go do whatever you decide to do.

Criticism is allowed this is an open forum and you are not the admin to make blanket childish rules that only Pakistani’s can share input on Pakistan foreign policy that affects the region.
 
Bratva said:
Better than the others who make alliances with Militias and dictators who runs to Russia.


Who are you to criticize? The one who made alliances with Houthis and the Assad and countless other shody alliances? Concentrate on your War with USA. It doesnt concern you who Pakistan make alliance with in future.
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It absolutely does.

Pakistan rightly raised objections when Talibans made alliance with India.
 

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Bratva said:
Can you share the source which says Pak-Saudi pact was signed rapidly? This shows how much you know about the subject (zero). You have zero idea about Pak-Kuwait negotiations and you generously applied false analogy of Pak-Saudi pact on Pak-Kuwait negotiations. . Lets stick to poverty sticken population of Iran and how war is affecting them and I'd suggest you to educate yourself about the alliances of Pakistan and how and when they were formed.
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The Qatari one was the one they signed rapidly. I stand corrected. If you are looking for a gotcha you can go hurray. But that just adds another to the list. I realize Saudi Pakistan cooperation famously goes back to the 70s and 80s. We see the results of that in Afghanistan today.

Pakistan seems to be signing defense pacts with these shady characters one after the other as they wage a war on Iran.

This is my last response on this topic as this a Pakistani forum and nationalism gets in the way.
 
Bratva said:
That shows what a hypocritical and biased view you have. Good day to you. Lot of Israeli and zionists spies were/are in Iran. Charity begins at home instead of making alliances with others to counter zionists.
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If charity begins at home - everyone becomes a beggar.
 
Magi said:
The Qatari one was the one they signed rapidly. I stand corrected. If you are looking for a gotcha you can go hurray. But that just adds another to the list. I realize Saudi Pakistan cooperation goes back to the 70s. We see the results of that in Afghanistan today.

Pakistan seems to be signing defense pacts with these shady characters one after the other as they wage a war on Iran.

This is my last response on this topic as this a Pakistani forum and nationalism gets in the way.
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