Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

ShapurII said:
It's sort of relevant to know your previous positions on the matter, particularly when you start to accuse others of being devoid of facts and nuances. Don't you agree?


You do understand that you just wrote nonsense, right?


Oh, OK. Sorry, I didn't know that the US had one of the smallest armies in the world and relied on the pocket money from Arabs to survive, unlike Iraq in the 80s which had the biggest, most powerful army in the world with the world's bestest economy. OK lol
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Gibberish for the sake of it... keep quoting someone else... I've already noted what matters...
Yes, and do come back... once any of your cockamamie materializes.
At least there will be context instead of keyboard thumping.
 
Bratva said:
Has the agreement signed? Has the alliance been made official? It's better to comment when it happens.
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This is my last post on this.

Apologies, mods.

But don’t get so cocky.

Sooner or later - Hinduvta is coming for Pakistan again.

Worst case you’ll need a neutral Iran.

Get your military to focus on Hinduvta instead of fattening their Swiss bank accounts and mansions in US.
 
BananaRepublic said:
This is my last post on this.

Apologies, mods.

But don’t get so cocky.

Sooner or later - Hinduvta is coming for Pakistan again.

Worst case you’ll need a neutral Iran.

Get your military to focus on Hinduvta instead of fattening their Swiss bank accounts and mansions in US.
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I don't understand one thing about Pakistan's position. I mean there are obviously two scenarios in case of Iran:

Scenario I: Iran wins the war and defeats the US. Then Iran's geopolitical position in the region gets even stronger than before. Then Pakistan who has helped Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will be neighbors with an Iran that will remember Pakistan's betrayal quite well. How does that serve Pakistan's long-term interests?

Scenario II: Iran loses the war and becomes another US vassal state, even if severely weakened after the war. A pro-Israel regime will take over Iran with the Iranian diaspora ruling over the new Iran. Then who do you think Iran will side with? Pakistan that formed alliances with its Arab enemies or pro-Israel India who also happens to have a much larger economy?

Pakistan is putting itself in a lose-lose situation with regard to Iran in the future. Pakistan could at least form a strong relationship with Iran and hope for Scenario I to come true.
 
ShapurII said:
I don't understand one thing. And that's Pakistan's position.

I mean there are obviously two scenarios in case of Iran.

Scenario I: Iran wins the war and defeats the US. Then Iran's geopolitical position in the region gets even stronger than before. Then Pakistan who has helped Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will be neighbors with an Iran that will remember Pakistan's betrayal quite well. How does that serve Pakistan's long-term interests?

Scenario II: Iran loses the war and becomes another US vassal state, even if severely weakened after the war. A pro-Israel regime will take over Iran with the Iranian diaspora ruling over the new Iran. Then who do you think Iran will side with? Pakistan that formed alliances with its Arab enemies or pro-Israel India who also happens to have a much larger economy?

Pakistan is putting itself in a lose-lose situation with regard to Iran in the future.
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Please discuss this here

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Thread 'Pakistan and Kuwait discuss expanded defence pact, sources say'

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Watandar said:
Please discuss this here

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Thread 'Pakistan and Kuwait discuss expanded defence pact, sources say'

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It was my only post on the matter. I'm afraid I'm not that interested in Pakistan's issues to participate in another thread as well. We have more important things to worry about at the moment, such as the US continued aggressions and its possible plans of launching a ground invasion.
 
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ShapurII said:
I don't understand one thing about Pakistan's position. I mean there are obviously two scenarios in case of Iran:

Scenario I: Iran wins the war and defeats the US. Then Iran's geopolitical position in the region gets even stronger than before. Then Pakistan who has helped Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will be neighbors with an Iran that will remember Pakistan's betrayal quite well. How does that serve Pakistan's long-term interests?

Scenario II: Iran loses the war and becomes another US vassal state, even if severely weakened after the war. A pro-Israel regime will take over Iran with the Iranian diaspora ruling over the new Iran. Then who do you think Iran will side with? Pakistan that formed alliances with its Arab enemies or pro-Israel India who also happens to have a much larger economy?

Pakistan is putting itself in a lose-lose situation with regard to Iran in the future. Pakistan could at least form a strong relationship with Iran and hope for Scenario I to come true.
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Bro,

You hit the nail on the head.
 
ShapurII said:
I'd rather keep Khuzestan and Bushehr than the Strait of Hormuz which is not even entirely ours to begin with.
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do not panic , USA is just doing text book miltary tactic , nothing especially ... half of member of this forum would do the same so its high probably our commanders already made all these consideration ...

our airforce has even less engage in this round , probably keeping its assests for supporting ground force in case of any land invasion .
 
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