Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kobra]

It was signed rapidly with Saudis so it seems likely they will sign with Kuwait too. Meanwhile Pakistan for decades hasn't had the ability to use IP and bring cheap and readily available energy to the energy starved and poverty stricken Pakistani people. I will keep my opinion to myself as nationalism will lead to blind backlash. Please continue.

Kuwait had Banned Visas for Pakistanis for 20 years. Its a wishful report most probably, we have serious issues going in in two of our provinces. Kuwait can f off, a certain group wishes to see pakistan getting involved in fighting with Iran but our establishement is well aware of the realities.

 

[Immortals]

When Iran made allianc with Houthis, Assad of Syria and Hezbollah and Iraqi militias.

An “alliance” and a defensive pact are two completely different things. Iran wasn’t selling itself for some oil and money because its cannot manage its finances due to the military junta controlling policy.

In fact, the alliance with Houthi’s, Assad, HZ, and Iraqi all cost Iran money, blood, and military equipment and were done to push back against U.S./Israeli hegemony. Iran didn’t get in any lucrative business deals in return and in fact had to donate energy to Lebanon, Syria, and Venezuela to keep those counties afloat.

What Pakistan is doing now with Saudi Arabia and possibly Kuwait is becoming a mercenary force that can be bought by the highest bidder. There is not strategic alignment nor common enemy. So comparing Iran’s foreign policy with Pakistan’s is completely asinine.

I never seen Iranians or people who criticizing, complain about those shody alliances.

Then you need to leave this forum and open your horizons. Because the Axis of Resistance is divided topic inside Iran due to the aforementioned resources and capital it sucked up from Iranian coffers.

Iranians and non-Pakistanis has no right to criticize anything that Pakistan thinks is best for herself. If anyone wants to criticize start with your own country and the alliances you've made or gonna make.

Go sell yourself and become a mercenary force for some barrels of oil and few billion dollars in loans. Go do whatever you decide to do.

Criticism is allowed this is an open forum and you are not the admin to make blanket childish rules that only Pakistani’s can share input on Pakistan foreign policy that affects the region.

 

[030292]

Their Achilles heel is trillions locked in western financial system... one that can cause them to squeal in a pinch. Their money was wanted... they were not!

They just assumed it was them!

Quite brilliantly put.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Better than the others who make alliances with Militias and dictators who runs to Russia.


Who are you to criticize? The one who made alliances with Houthis and the Assad and countless other shody alliances? Concentrate on your War with USA. It doesnt concern you who Pakistan make alliance with in future.

It absolutely does.

Pakistan rightly raised objections when Talibans made alliance with India.

 

[kobra]

Saudia is becoming a safe haven for yankees

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[Magi]

Can you share the source which says Pak-Saudi pact was signed rapidly? This shows how much you know about the subject (zero). You have zero idea about Pak-Kuwait negotiations and you generously applied false analogy of Pak-Saudi pact on Pak-Kuwait negotiations. . Lets stick to poverty sticken population of Iran and how war is affecting them and I'd suggest you to educate yourself about the alliances of Pakistan and how and when they were formed.

The Qatari one was the one they signed rapidly. I stand corrected. If you are looking for a gotcha you can go hurray. But that just adds another to the list. I realize Saudi Pakistan cooperation famously goes back to the 70s and 80s. We see the results of that in Afghanistan today.

Pakistan seems to be signing defense pacts with these shady characters one after the other as they wage a war on Iran.

This is my last response on this topic as this a Pakistani forum and nationalism gets in the way.

 

[BananaRepublic]

That shows what a hypocritical and biased view you have. Good day to you. Lot of Israeli and zionists spies were/are in Iran. Charity begins at home instead of making alliances with others to counter zionists.

If charity begins at home - everyone becomes a beggar.

 

[Watandar]

The Qatari one was the one they signed rapidly. I stand corrected. If you are looking for a gotcha you can go hurray. But that just adds another to the list. I realize Saudi Pakistan cooperation goes back to the 70s. We see the results of that in Afghanistan today.

Pakistan seems to be signing defense pacts with these shady characters one after the other as they wage a war on Iran.

This is my last response on this topic as this a Pakistani forum and nationalism gets in the way.

Please discuss here

https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...cuss-expanded-defence-pact-sources-say.33037/

 

[Feroze]

Iran war live: US intensifies southern Iran attacks, killing at least eight​

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US bombards Iran in sixth-straight night of attacks


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Published On 16 Jul 202616 Jul 2026
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• The United States has carried out major strikes on Iran for a sixth night in a row, killing at least eight people and wounding 20.
• Officials in southern Iran report that civilian infrastructure, including bridges, airports, power facilities and a train station, has been hit.
• Iran’s army says it has hit US assets in Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait and Qatar. Authorities in Qatar said a child was injured by falling missile debris after its army thwarted incoming Iranian attacks.
• A spokesman for Iran’s military says the Strait of Hormuz will never return to its pre-war status, as US Central Command says soldiers boarded a vessel in the Gulf of Oman to enforce its blockade of Iran.

US expands Iran attacks, killing 8, as bridges, airports, railways bombed

Eight killed and 20 others injured in strikes across southern Iran as blasts reported at railways, airports and bridges.

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

It's sort of relevant to know your previous positions on the matter, particularly when you start to accuse others of being devoid of facts and nuances. Don't you agree?


You do understand that you just wrote nonsense, right?


Oh, OK. Sorry, I didn't know that the US had one of the smallest armies in the world and relied on the pocket money from Arabs to survive, unlike Iraq in the 80s which had the biggest, most powerful army in the world with the world's bestest economy. OK lol

Gibberish for the sake of it... keep quoting someone else... I've already noted what matters...
Yes, and do come back... once any of your cockamamie materializes.
At least there will be context instead of keyboard thumping.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Has the agreement signed? Has the alliance been made official? It's better to comment when it happens.

This is my last post on this.

Apologies, mods.

But don’t get so cocky.

Sooner or later - Hinduvta is coming for Pakistan again.

Worst case you’ll need a neutral Iran.

Get your military to focus on Hinduvta instead of fattening their Swiss bank accounts and mansions in US.

 

[ShapurII]

This is my last post on this.

Apologies, mods.

But don’t get so cocky.

Sooner or later - Hinduvta is coming for Pakistan again.

Worst case you’ll need a neutral Iran.

Get your military to focus on Hinduvta instead of fattening their Swiss bank accounts and mansions in US.

I don't understand one thing about Pakistan's position. I mean there are obviously two scenarios in case of Iran:

Scenario I: Iran wins the war and defeats the US. Then Iran's geopolitical position in the region gets even stronger than before. Then Pakistan who has helped Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will be neighbors with an Iran that will remember Pakistan's betrayal quite well. How does that serve Pakistan's long-term interests?

Scenario II: Iran loses the war and becomes another US vassal state, even if severely weakened after the war. A pro-Israel regime will take over Iran with the Iranian diaspora ruling over the new Iran. Then who do you think Iran will side with? Pakistan that formed alliances with its Arab enemies or pro-Israel India who also happens to have a much larger economy?

Pakistan is putting itself in a lose-lose situation with regard to Iran in the future. Pakistan could at least form a strong relationship with Iran and hope for Scenario I to come true.

 

[Watandar]

I don't understand one thing. And that's Pakistan's position.

I mean there are obviously two scenarios in case of Iran.

Scenario I: Iran wins the war and defeats the US. Then Iran's geopolitical position in the region gets even stronger than before. Then Pakistan who has helped Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will be neighbors with an Iran that will remember Pakistan's betrayal quite well. How does that serve Pakistan's long-term interests?

Scenario II: Iran loses the war and becomes another US vassal state, even if severely weakened after the war. A pro-Israel regime will take over Iran with the Iranian diaspora ruling over the new Iran. Then who do you think Iran will side with? Pakistan that formed alliances with its Arab enemies or pro-Israel India who also happens to have a much larger economy?

Pakistan is putting itself in a lose-lose situation with regard to Iran in the future.

Please discuss this here

https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...cuss-expanded-defence-pact-sources-say.33037/