Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Well from what all the reports are saying Iran hasn’t surrendering but actually making stronger demands I guess their plans are to take this to the midterms and make republicans squirm and collapse honestly looks like a pretty good plan either trump finally admits he can’t win this the way he wants and actually negotiates on fair terms and has to treat Iran on equal footing or go to war for real with boots on the ground either way to late to change the equation economy for middle class and poor was already bad now it’s become even worse and trump has his head in clouds blaming everyone else but himself…..and Bibi….and anyone gullible who thought this war would’ve been easily won
 
Well from what all the reports are saying Iran hasn’t surrendering but actually making stronger demands I guess their plans are to take this to the midterms and make republicans squirm and collapse honestly looks like a pretty good plan either trump finally admits he can’t win this the way he wants and actually negotiates on fair terms and has to treat Iran on equal footing or go to war for real with boots on the ground either way to late to change the equation economy for middle class and poor was already bad now it’s become even worse and trump has his head in clouds blaming everyone else but himself…..and Bibi….and anyone gullible who thought this war would’ve been easily won
It's too late no matter what they do

They could have gotten away by signing a ceasefire and snatch concessions just after sinking Dena and call it a victory, but these apes are too retarded to think logically

They're too deep in the quicksand
 
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Turkey has been spreading racist pan Turkic propaganda against Iran since the mid 2000s as I remember. The Turkey/Baku axis seems like a bigger threat than Saud or Pakistan. A significant number of the Pakistani people views Iran in a friendly manner. Wolf howling pan Turkic "ultranationalists" view half the world including much of Iran as theirs.
Honestly, the majority of Turkish people are decent and I trust them much more than I trust a pro-Saudi, Shiite hating Pakistani any time of the day. Not to say that all Pakistanis are like that though, there are plenty of decent Pakistanis too.
 
A possible scenario could be.

1. USA runs out of conventional weapons against Iran
2. Iran sinks several USA warships
3. USA launch a nuclear attack against Iran from USA mainland ICBM silos, overflying Russia soil in the path towards Iran, and USA launch SLBM from SSBN near Chinese coast because it's where USA SSBN are.
4. The missiles never come to Iran, they explode in mid path over Russia and Chinese soil, disarming nuclearly those countries and allowing USA world ruling forever.

Unlikely, but those powers can't afford to discard that kind of unlikely things.

Each nuclear movement by USA could be seen by a imminent direct nuclear threat against Russia/China.

USA foreign policy is known by his twisted lies, plots, and backstabbings.

The US SSBN won't launch the SLBM near China's coast because several reasons:

- China's coastal waters are shallow for its 18,000 - 20,000 tons SSBN
- China's exploding number of SSN and unmanned subs could easily hunt it down
- Trident II missile has the risk being revealed its important specification in front of China's mid-course interception system

If the US wants to launch its Trident II missiles against China, the ideal place for them would be the surrounding water of Hawaii. And against Russia, they would just launch from from its Atlantic coast.

They might plan to launch against Iran from the Indian Ocean.

However, this place might not be very safe for their SSBN compared to the water from their bastion zone as China has increasing number of nuclear subs to patrol in that area.
 
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Honestly, the majority of Turkish people are decent and I trust them much more than I trust a pro-Saudi, Shiite hating Pakistani any time of the day. Not to say that all Pakistanis are like that though, there are plenty of decent Pakistanis too.
Those retards are a small minority. Ignorant morons who are brainwashed by 'scholars' of a sect that is funded by baboon arabia. They will sell their mothers for money as the saying goes.
 
Those retards are a small minority. Ignorant morons who are brainwashed by 'scholars' of a sect that is funded by baboon arabia. They will sell their mothers for money as the saying goes.
Yes, I know that the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis are pretty friendly and warm people who do not hate Iran or Iranians, but that small minority is sometimes pretty loud and maybe even influential.
 
After this war, USA will be scared to death in case of any conflict with China or Russia. Americans will try to avoid it at any cost.

Iran has been under draconian sanctions for almost 47 years. Whatever Iran possesses is domestically made with help of a few countries. Smaller economy hence smaller military infrastructures.

On the other hand, China or Russia possess cutting edge technologies such as 5th generation fighter jets or heavy nuclear warheads, not to mention that both these countries are producers and pioneers of new military technologies.

As a consequence of Ramadan war with Iran, USA turned into 'just an other country' from an 'undisputed world power aka policeman of the globe'.

Overall, we should not underestimate a cornered US when feeling they have nothing to lose.
 
Overall, we should not underestimate a cornered US when feeling they have nothing to lose.
Its their own choice. USA is a pariah state with a terrorist as their leader. What can one expect?

Everyone hates them. They have already lost many things.

Americans have no difference with wild animals at this moment.
 
Its their own choice. USA is a pariah state with a terrorist as their leader. What can one expect?

Everyone hates them. They have already lost many things.

Americans have no difference with wild animals at this moment.

It would be ironic if their global hegemony started with the nuclear weapon, but also end with the nuclear weapon.
 
Instead of signing defense pacts with countries that cannot help Pakistan militarily, Pakistan should have signed one with Iran

Iran can help with offensive arsenals and productions whereas Saudi Arabia can't
 
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