Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[tsunset]

Well from what all the reports are saying Iran hasn’t surrendering but actually making stronger demands I guess their plans are to take this to the midterms and make republicans squirm and collapse honestly looks like a pretty good plan either trump finally admits he can’t win this the way he wants and actually negotiates on fair terms and has to treat Iran on equal footing or go to war for real with boots on the ground either way to late to change the equation economy for middle class and poor was already bad now it’s become even worse and trump has his head in clouds blaming everyone else but himself…..and Bibi….and anyone gullible who thought this war would’ve been easily won

It's too late no matter what they do

They could have gotten away by signing a ceasefire and snatch concessions just after sinking Dena and call it a victory, but these apes are too retarded to think logically

They're too deep in the quicksand

 

[Magi]

 

[ShapurII]

Turkey has been spreading racist pan Turkic propaganda against Iran since the mid 2000s as I remember. The Turkey/Baku axis seems like a bigger threat than Saud or Pakistan. A significant number of the Pakistani people views Iran in a friendly manner. Wolf howling pan Turkic "ultranationalists" view half the world including much of Iran as theirs.

Honestly, the majority of Turkish people are decent and I trust them much more than I trust a pro-Saudi, Shiite hating Pakistani any time of the day. Not to say that all Pakistanis are like that though, there are plenty of decent Pakistanis too.

 

[Yousafzai_M]

Honestly, the majority of Turkish people are decent and I trust them much more than I trust a pro-Saudi, Shiite hating Pakistani any time of the day. Not to say that all Pakistanis are like that though, there are plenty of decent Pakistanis too.

Those retards are a small minority. Ignorant morons who are brainwashed by 'scholars' of a sect that is funded by baboon arabia. They will sell their mothers for money as the saying goes.

 

[ShapurII]

Those retards are a small minority. Ignorant morons who are brainwashed by 'scholars' of a sect that is funded by baboon arabia. They will sell their mothers for money as the saying goes.

Yes, I know that the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis are pretty friendly and warm people who do not hate Iran or Iranians, but that small minority is sometimes pretty loud and maybe even influential.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

After this war, USA will be scared to death in case of any conflict with China or Russia. Americans will try to avoid it at any cost.

Iran has been under draconian sanctions for almost 47 years. Whatever Iran possesses is domestically made with help of a few countries. Smaller economy hence smaller military infrastructures.

On the other hand, China or Russia possess cutting edge technologies such as 5th generation fighter jets or heavy nuclear warheads, not to mention that both these countries are producers and pioneers of new military technologies.

As a consequence of Ramadan war with Iran, USA turned into 'just an other country' from an 'undisputed world power aka policeman of the globe'.

Overall, we should not underestimate a cornered US when feeling they have nothing to lose.

 

[muhammed45]

Overall, we should not underestimate a cornered US when feeling they have nothing to lose.

Its their own choice. USA is a pariah state with a terrorist as their leader. What can one expect?

Everyone hates them. They have already lost many things.

Americans have no difference with wild animals at this moment.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Its their own choice. USA is a pariah state with a terrorist as their leader. What can one expect?

Everyone hates them. They have already lost many things.

Americans have no difference with wild animals at this moment.

It would be ironic if their global hegemony started with the nuclear weapon, but also end with the nuclear weapon.

 

[tsunset]

Instead of signing defense pacts with countries that cannot help Pakistan militarily, Pakistan should have signed one with Iran

Iran can help with offensive arsenals and productions whereas Saudi Arabia can't

 

[Immortals]

 

[Desert]

Instead of signing defense pacts with countries that cannot help Pakistan militarily, Pakistan should have signed one with Iran

Iran can help with offensive arsenals and productions whereas Saudi Arabia can't

money talks , ,

 

[Watandar]

Instead of signing defense pacts with countries that cannot help Pakistan militarily, Pakistan should have signed one with Iran

Iran can help with offensive arsenals and productions whereas Saudi Arabia can't

If Iran had showered dollars and oil on the Pakistan Establishment for decades, like Saudia has done, or dollars and guns like the US has done, than what you say would have been possible. They are allies of whoever fills their bank account.

But US sanctions get in the way. Iran could borrow a page from the Saudi/US book after this war.

 

[Hazard]

Bro, you're repeating what the American media are saying about Turkey.

Why do you think Republic of Azerbaijan is purchasing long-range drones and is investing its navy? Does Armenia have access to the Caspian Sea? How large is Armenia from west to east?

Turkey itself is one of the countries that might get involved with the Republic of Azerbaijan against Iran's territorial integrity from the northwest, and you think Turkey has no desire for chaos in Iran. OK.

Brother, I think Turkey has a bigger fish to fry, Israelis are all over Cyprus and will soon be knocking Turkey's doors.

Don't think Turkey is interested in stirring any other pot at the moment.

 

[Al-Zakir]

Its their own choice. USA is a pariah state with a terrorist as their leader. What can one expect?

Everyone hates them. They have already lost many things.

Americans have no difference with wild animals at this moment.

Salam brother and welcome back. I'm glad to know you are safe and healthy.

 

[Magi]

If Iran had showered dollars and oil on the Pakistan Establishment for decades, like Saudia has done, or dollars and guns like the US has done, than what you say would have been possible. They are allies of whoever fills their bank account.

But US sanctions get in the way. Iran could borrow a page from the Saudi/US book after this war.

Iran offered energy through the IP line. Based on all evidence what limits Pakistan's potential more than anything is the lack of affordable and reliable energy. Not dollars. Not borderline slave labor "remittances." Imagine the industrial potential of 130 million Pakistanis tapping into unlimited Iranian energy. From there, the sky would be the limit to our relations. But Pakistan is unable to act in the interest of its people because:

Former colonizers rarely grant full autonomy to their colonies. They always leave behind a dependent ruling class. Despite the China connection, Islamabad seems more western aligned. "Defeating" US in Afghanistan and the like are just empty feel good statements and far from the reality that is obvious to anyone paying attention.