UK Racism against Muslims and Brown people

[ThunderCat]

There are NO Shariah patrols in the UK. That is a made up claim by the far-right. No one push Islam in the uk. Rather, it's the non-Muslims that come to Muslims wanting to speak about Islam.

So these videos are fake, including Al-Jazeera report:

 

[GoatsMilk]

So these videos are fake, including Al-Jazeera report:

Lived in England all my life, never ever once came across a "sharia patrol". If i had to guess they found a few fruit cakes and paid them some money to put on a "show".

People like anjem choudary were also probably british state assets, used as propaganda tools. Hence they were able to live off benefits while being constantly promoted on the British media.

 

[Mobius]

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

So these videos are fake, including Al-Jazeera report:

They are not shariah patrols, they are vigilantes against criminals in their areas. They are also trying to stop rampant anti-socail behaviour in their areas. I know because I live in London, uk. Not once did they explicitly say they are "Sharia patrols". That was stated by the reporters. These videoclips are 16 years old too.

 

[313Ghazi]

So these videos are fake, including Al-Jazeera report:

Thats called community policing when white people in high-vis jackets do it.

It's something we've done for decades. We do it to kick out criminals from our communities, ho's pimps, dealers that do more than stick to business.

 

[PakFactor]

Middle Easterners commonly project their ills on Pakistanis and don't want to be associated with them.

Even Palestinians online and in the West spit on us. One is example is 85% of terror attacks in Europe come from North Africa/Middle East, yet some how all the blame comes on us.

Somehow those Middle Eastern terrorists are "connected" to Pakistan.

While Bharati & European sources play on this confusion, Middle Eastern people are keen to disassociate with us. They see us as part of the staining of their tainted image.

This is your "ummah." And i'm not trying to excuse all those sick Pakistanis in Britain.

They are commonly jihadi types and will turn any country they live in into a taliban-style state.

In the end, both are at fault, be they Middle Easterners or Pakistanis.

 

[ThunderCat]

Thats called community policing when white people in high-vis jackets do it.

It's something we've done for decades. We do it to kick out criminals from our communities, ho's pimps, dealers that do more than stick to business.

That is the police's job. If you see crime, then report to them. Do you think you'd try this in GCC countries? They'd kick you out in an instant.

This kind of vigilantism only taints our image. Shariah patrols are not "community policing."

This is imposing your own laws in somebody else's jurisdiction.

 

[ThunderCat]

They are not shariah patrols, they are vigilantes against criminals in their areas. They are also trying to stop rampant anti-socail behaviour in their areas. I know because I live in London, uk. Not once did they explicitly say they are "Sharia patrols". That was stated by the reporters. These videoclips are 16 years old too.

No i've seen a clip where they do proclaim themselves as Shariah patrols. In either case it is not allowed.

It is vigilantism.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

No i've seen a clip where they do proclaim themselves as Shariah patrols. In either case it is not allowed.

It is vigilantism.

Con you post a link to that video?

 

[Master Chief]

That is the police's job. If you see crime, then report to them. Do you think you'd try this in GCC countries? They'd kick you out in an instant.

This kind of vigilantism only taints our image. Shariah patrols are not "community policing."

This is imposing your own laws in somebody else's jurisdiction.

Yes and no.

If thugs threaten our women and children explicitly on the basis of our race/religion/both, then I am in favour of restarting these.

Others have pointed out that these were more common 10-20 years ago and are non-existent now afaik. But they need to come back for public safety, particularly if national front thugs are trying to target our women for rape.

"Shariah patrols" as a description though is laughable. Those died out with the decline of fundo nutcases like Anjum Chowdhury.

 

[ThunderCat]

Yes and no.

If thugs threaten our women and children explicitly on the basis of our race/religion/both, then I am in favour of restarting these.

Others have pointed out that these were more common 10-20 years ago and are non-existent now afaik. But they need to come back for public safety, particularly if national front thugs are trying to target our women for rape.

"Shariah patrols" as a description though is laughable. Those died out with the decline of fundo nutcases like Anjum Chowdhury.

They themselves called it Shariah patrols. And also if you see threats, you report it to the Police. That is their job which they are qualified for. Not you imposing your mullah culture in a European country.

Naturally they will grow to resent you.

 

[ThunderCat]

I know a Shia Pakistani on Quora who despite being observant of his faith and a proud Pakistani, he is also disgusted by the behavior of Pakistanis in the UK, agreeing it hurts our image there.

 

[Master Chief]

They themselves called it Shariah patrols. And also if you see threats, you report it to the Police. That is their job which they are qualified for. Not you imposing your mullah culture in a European country.

Naturally they will grow to resent you.

Do you live in England?

That you think the police here (or in Wales) will do anything for public safety suggests to me you do not.

A66 crash: Distrust and fear hang over Middlesbrough

BBC News visits town where violence has escalated after the fatal crash and residents say they are living in fear.

www.bbc.co.uk

I'm not interested in "Shariah patrols" or any variant thereof. I am however interested in protecting our communities from this current iteration of British culture.

 

[Master Chief]

I know a Shia Pakistani on Quora who despite being observant of his faith and a proud Pakistani, he is also disgusted by the behavior of Pakistanis in the UK, agreeing it hurts our image there.

You're conflating multiple issues. You will find much agreement for your criticism of numerous elements of British Pakistani behaviour and mannerisms, but at the same time, you will find those of us living here are frustrated by the absence of adequate policing in MULTIPLE regions.