Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[lightning f57]

all they had to do was attack the zionist entity, but they don't wanna do that.
So this is the result

Israel is American political establishment achilles heel but Iran can't take on US, Israel GCC countries together. But it has limited options now they are slowly being degraded and trump wants to create conditions for unrest.

 

[Immortals]

Warning # 5828 by Iran

 

[lightning f57]

In response to US striking 3 Iranian oil tankers, Iran should strike Kuwait's or Bahrain's oil infrastructure.

Iran should impose costs on US by striking regional oil production.

This is what i would have expected This is an asymmetric move after all, but Iran only does that when its hit.

Either Iran has some really bad lesders making stupid decisions right now or this is next level 4D chess.

 

[kobra]

This is likley from UAE or Oman. The Telegram channel says from the south of the Persian Gulf near the strait.

You can see Iran isn’t serious about fighting a war. When your opponent can fly big defenseless airforce tankers 50KM off your shoreline, then it shows that you are not fighting a war. Do you think Ukraine would allow Russia to do this?

It’s clear there is some unwritten rules to this current stage of conflict. Iran isn’t trying to push the U.S. out of the SoH or PG, it’s merely trying to do tit for tat attacks while hoping the energy crisis intensifies.

 

[vizier]

Warning # 5828 by Iran

Good move. Also Kuwait used its land for attacks against Iran. Himars strikes were originating from there making them part of the aggression against Iran. For every tanker a kuwaiti tanker can be targeted as well. Seeing docked tankers is easy because it is relatively close to Iran. After that bahrain, uae ships can be targeted as well for every targeted Iranian oil tanker. If kuwait or others expel all usa activity from their soil then this can be cancelled and only usa ships can be targeted for retaliation.

Attacking isreal is proposed by many but it is possible if Syria allows arms to Hezbollah as the close proximity ground force and jordan regime stops acting as the shield of isreal so Iranian missiles can pass through. Also Irans bm, drones should be replenished enough both against usa - israeli combined attack. Otherwise Iran cannot sustain attacks and It will be like a hamas suicide operation with a large bang at the start and no noise after a short while.

Talks about a nuclear hit on Pickaxe are getting louder. Anthony Aguilar says a South Korean destroyer may be sent through the Strait as bait. Iran sinking the destroyer can then be used as cause to drop a nuke.

If there is solid deterrence they cannot use tactical nukes. There should be some strike planned against dimona reactor if that happens. Maybe with a few dirty bomb warheads detonated a few thousand feet altitude if possible for area radiation denial on the desert area around reactor. Ofcourse since it is a reactor Iran can claim dirty bomb warhead is not used and it is fallout from nuclear reactor after the strike. Usa may also claim that tactial nukes are not used depending on the level of the strike if it is not easy to verify it quickly.

That way instead of targeting population centers with dirty bomb triggering mutually assured destruction the deterrence will be established. If things escalate further isreali population centers will ofcourse be targeted. Icbms or tactical nukes wont drop down by magic when you dont build wmds thinking you are acting morally, they wont be used by the other side when you have enough deterrence by logic.

 

[Falcon29]

Warning # 5828 by Iran

Like I told people earlier, they weren't prepared for this war. Gaza 2023 exposed weak foundations of AOR in region. The other regional powers (which includes US due to their large presence) are infinitely more wealthier and technologically advanced. That can't be underestimated even if we think some local leaderships are incompetent.

IR is backed into corner because Russia and China aren't actually helping or going to help. They have limited resources and they used a lot over the past two years. They're preserving resources for if major Iranian cities come under attack.

I was screaming in late 2023 for an intervention in Gaza before ground op but the policy remained strategic patience until it was too late.

Iranian leadership may be content with a ceasefire and time to recoup. However USA is not offering that without major concessions which has forced Iran to condition control of SOH as a integral part of ceasefire. That's a tough place to be in because it's tantamount to demanding surrender from Iran and Iran was not prepared for this scenario. Neither were Hamas or Hezbollah. Nobody was expecting US to greenlight genocide and wholesale scale carpet bombing of Gaza.

 

[Falcon29]

US Navy says Iran fired anti ship ballistic missiles at two US warships

That's different than firing cruise missiles

Iran is not trying to score a hit from what we can observe. It forces the warships to expend their interceptors, move further away to safety and makes US mission in SOH and particularly naval blockade of Iran more challenging mission.

^^

This is if Iran continues these strikes on a daily basis. If it stops for weeks then there is no coherent strategy in place.

Even if some hit and damage occurs, US would respond with strikes in Tehran maybe other cities, it would be worth it for Iran. The cost risk analysis is in Irans favor as it has nothing to lose and has already been battered by US and Israeli strikes.

It's possible Trump administration gets embarrassed and scope of strikes or duration might be lengthier and larger than assumed but it would still work to Iran's favor. The Iranian political leadership, however, is looking at the future of the nation and what it wants to be. They aren't looking at that this through military lens. They're looking at what happens down the road if we pursue that route and what does Iran's future look like ? Perpetual low intensity war with US (which is very damaging economically and other reasons )? Or what exactly ?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

US Navy says Iran fired anti ship ballistic missiles at two US warships

That's different than firing cruise missiles

Iran is not trying to score a hit from what we can observe. It forces the warships to expend their interceptors, move further away to safety and makes US mission in SOH and particularly naval blockade of Iran more challenging mission.

^^

This is if Iran continues these strikes on a daily basis. If it stops for weeks then there is no coherent strategy in place.

Even if some hit and damage occurs, US would respond with strikes in Tehran maybe other cities, it would be worth it for Iran. The cost risk analysis is in Irans favor as it has nothing to lose and has already been battered by US and Israeli strikes.

It's possible Trump administration gets embarrassed and scope of strikes or duration might be lengthier and larger than assumed but it would still work to Iran's favor. The Iranian political leadership, however, is looking at the future of the nation and what it wants to be. They aren't looking at that this through military lens. They're looking at what happens down the road if we pursue that route and what does Iran's future look like ? Perpetual low intensity war with US (which is very damaging economically and other reasons )? Or what exactly ?

The fact that they demonstrate a capability as a Flex if bigger than what US does as a retaliation... because US hits civilian targets as a result.
However, that demonstration keeps the policy makers within reasonable check... within their bubble of hubris and bravado. These are However farts on orange's face because he draws real blood. Gets carted in bins and pits his own crew for target practice... so that he can call them fools later.
The eventuality of a US carrier or destroyer eating a direct hit keep inching higher by the day. A minor miscalculation away...

 

[RzA]

Just a matter of time before the people start protesting again