Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[lightning f57]

So your saying never going to happen

Eventually everything must come to a stop, war will too but at what cost. We hope some miracle can happen, Chinese economy faltering because of this may force them to act.

 

[lightning f57]

Oh please. Iran is the adult in the region.

Sure but if Iran stops the war it means surrender. China can if they decide to force both parties to the table they have clout with all parties.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iraq knocks out 5% of the global oil supply and Yemen liberates Bab al Mandeb

And the first thing Iran rushes to do is sign an agreement about the Strait of Hormoz

What kind of stupidity is this? They couldn’t even wait one week? The politicians are directly working against the military. Iran better be getting something big out of this deal.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iraq closes Shalamcheh border crossing with Iran

We did not hit Iraq hard enough, they remain an American proxy

Although American troops supposedly have a deadline to leave Iraq by the end of this month, so we can expand our operations in Iraq after that

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iranian power plant restored and back in operation

 

[Garcia Sea]

Iraq closes Shalamcheh border crossing with Iran

We did not hit Iraq hard enough, they remain an American proxy

Although American troops supposedly have a deadline to leave Iraq by the end of this month, so we can expand our operations in Iraq after that

Frankly, discussing the betrayal by Iran’s reformist government is now pointless. The time has come to address the incompetence of the IRGC and the SNSC in failing to curb this.
Seeing Iran’s weak stance, even Iraq is attempting to break away. At this juncture, the IRGC should indeed abandon its current policy toward Iraq; instead, it should massively expand support for the PMF to create an organization more powerful than Hezbollah, and openly aim to establish a "state within a state" in southern Iraq.

 

[retaxis]

I think many people are misunderstanding the IRGC. They see IRGC not killing many Americans and not doing as much damage as they would like and they think IRGC is incompetent.

The truth of the matter is IRGC is playing the long game of survival. They want to wait out Trump and deal with a democrat government that would remove all sanctions. Killing American soldiers in large numbers or doing large amounts of damage means that American people will begin supporting the war more and a deal will be harder to make in the long term. Thats why the IRGC is just doing retaliatory strikes and bunkering down until they can cut a good deal with the democrat government in 2 yrs time. IRGC biggest fear is having America destroy their civilian infrastructure which can cause widespread anger and protest within Iran and overthrow the IRGC. This is why they are playing the long and timid game and its working.

I know people want to see big explosions and mass casualties but IRGC is only interested in managing their own survival and cutting a deal in the long term with a government they can trust (democrats)

 

[Oracle]

I am afraid we are getting closer to tactical nukes...

It's coming and usa is as evil as what it was in 1945

 

[FIsa]

Iran didn’t keep its island promises with UAE so Arabs are worried that why would Iran even abide by any SoH agreement . They do have a point

 

[FIsa]

Iraq knocks out 5% of the global oil supply and Yemen liberates Bab al Mandeb

And the first thing Iran rushes to do is sign an agreement about the Strait of Hormoz

What kind of stupidity is this? They couldn’t even wait one week? The politicians are directly working against the military. Iran better be getting something big out of this deal.

Not really

If US blockade remains after this agreement oil still not coming down .

But pressure on the orange goes up 2 fold . Oil and global politics .

The agreement is going to be UN IMO approved . As a result a legal standing .

My priority lane idea will eventually take place where Iran will get paid too .

It’s a genius political move

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

@Haz , whats so funny?!!!

please elaborate

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Iraq knocks out 5% of the global oil supply and Yemen liberates Bab al Mandeb

And the first thing Iran rushes to do is sign an agreement about the Strait of Hormoz

What kind of stupidity is this? They couldn’t even wait one week? The politicians are directly working against the military. Iran better be getting something big out of this deal.

Because Iranian leaders have a country to run. They have 90 million people waiting for them to come out of this war honorably. They want to beat the blockade without giving up their core demands. They also want a chart a way forward with their neighboring Arab and Muslim states.

Frankly, only one leader - Benjamin Netanyahu - and "Israel" have a vested interest in continuing this conflict. Everyone else wants to end it. Even Trump administration officials are looking for a way to end it. The upcoming agreement between Iran and Oman is a step in the right direction.

 

[Flotilla]

I think many people are misunderstanding the IRGC. They see IRGC not killing many Americans and not doing as much damage as they would like and they think IRGC is incompetent.

The truth of the matter is IRGC is playing the long game of survival. They want to wait out Trump and deal with a democrat government that would remove all sanctions. Killing American soldiers in large numbers or doing large amounts of damage means that American people will begin supporting the war more and a deal will be harder to make in the long term. Thats why the IRGC is just doing retaliatory strikes and bunkering down until they can cut a good deal with the democrat government in 2 yrs time. IRGC biggest fear is having America destroy their civilian infrastructure which can cause widespread anger and protest within Iran and overthrow the IRGC. This is why they are playing the long and timid game and its working.

I know people want to see big explosions and mass casualties but IRGC is only interested in managing their own survival and cutting a deal in the long term with a government they can trust (democrats)

I agree with your point of view.

If this tiresome strategy of war allows Irán to survive their civilian infraestructure and save let's say 20.000 people, wellcome.

I would add another reason. I have been following many time some US YT channels, and many US civilians supports Irán!!!. I put some examples months ago. Half if not more US citizen see himself trapped bwtween Zionism and their eternal wars and a puppet President, and whenever Irán hit this or that US bases they accept Irán is just defending itself.

My only objection It is that even if Irán succeed surviving Donald Trump Administration (seems Irán will), there is not enough. Irán needs to draw a red line to Israel and US and that just come with nuclear weapons.

Without them Israel will attack back and US will exploit any weakness to join in a hypothetical coalition of arab countries and Israel thirst of revenge.

Frankly, discussing the betrayal by Iran’s reformist government is now pointless. The time has come to address the incompetence of the IRGC and the SNSC in failing to curb this.
Seeing Iran’s weak stance, even Iraq is attempting to break away. At this juncture, the IRGC should indeed abandon its current policy toward Iraq; instead, it should massively expand support for the PMF to create an organization more powerful than Hezbollah, and openly aim to establish a "state within a state" in southern Iraq.

Happy to read you back, brother.

 

[UKBengali]

Iran is not playing its cards right.

It still has thousands of ballistic missiles that can hit Zionist entity.

These needs to be unleashed on Zionist targets on Palestine till the Zionists force the US to stop the war.

If it simply launches 20-25 a day at the Zionists then within a matter of days Zio-US will be out of interceptors and then it will be hitting targets at will.

Zionists are simply waiting for US to help them rebuild their interceptor stocks and they will attack Iran again.

By playing "defence" it is making its overall position worse. The key to making US stop the war and lift all sanctions is to damage the Zionists squatting in Palestine.