Egyptian Armed Forces

[Sami_1]

Egypt interest in T-129 Attack Helicopter

Gazelle Helicopters are outdated and use by Egyptian Police and Armed Forces
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T-129 has great technology and very agile to fight terrorists and to hunt Tanks

The Most effective Attack Helicopter in its class in the World
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Modern Cockpit with state of the art Electronics-Avionics
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Aselsan AVCI ( Hunter ) Helmet
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Modern Electronic Warfare Systems
-- Radar warning receiver System
-- Radar freguency mixer System
-- Laser receiver System
-- Missile warning System
-- Countermeasure firing System
-- IR ( infrared ) and Countermeasure System

Flexible Weapons Configurations
-- 20mm Gun with 500 rounds
-- 76 rockets or 16 CIRIT laser guided missiles
-- 8 UMTAS anti-Tank Missiles
-- 2 STINGER air to air Missiles

Advanced Anti-Tank Missiles from 8 km to 50 km
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Turkiye can arm Egypt with state of the art high quality Western standard Weapons

There is more than one competitor to it, whether the Chinese Z-10ME or the Indian LCH
The Indians offered a competitive offer because it included not only licensing local production in Egypt, but also making Egypt its export center to African countries, as well as redeveloping the plane to suit Egyptian requirements. The Chinese were objecting to local manufacturing operations, so Egypt expelled them from most state tenders. The Chinese objections drove them out of the Egyptian arms market in a large way. Therefore, the Chinese are reconsidering, especially after they produced the Z-21 aircraft, so as not to completely exit the Egyptian defense market.

Turkish munitions already have Chinese munitions that are produced locally as an alternative. For example, Egypt was the largest international customer for the HJ-12E missile from China. Until the Turks enter with offers to produce their local munitions, they find Chinese and Korean competition. Therefore, the Turks offered to invest in Egypt by establishing factories in Egypt and luring the corruption system with the participation of some elements of the state in These companies are a sham to pass on the money they get

He provided the Egyptians with solutions to develop local products, a suit for light aircraft, a helicopter, an alternative to the Gazelle, which was rejected due to the Egyptian corruption system.

The Russians themselves did not leave the Egyptian market. The second deal for the KA-52 aircraft. There are many rumors that it was already implemented, but with production with Russian components in Egypt quietly and without advertising, especially after the success of PRESIDENT-S COMPLEX. Therefore, the market for replacing the SA-342 GAZELLE aircraft has become really small in Egypt because it is twice the size. KA-52 fleet: The number of aircraft that will replace the GAZELLE aircraft is very low.
The combat history of the ATKS T129C plane is very interesting. The Kurds shot it down with an old SAM-7 missile. We do not look at weapons in pictures of weapons, but rather in their operational history.

Due to the lack of presence of the DIRCM system with the Turks in the beginning, and the system that has been added currently has no reliability and has no operational success, and this is one of the reasons for the fear of contracting for it, the Turks want to jump on this matter by offering joint production and development of the T929 ATAK 2 aircraft by using the Russian TV3 engine. 117 turboshaft is available on the MI-17 & KA-52 aircraft to be a unified engine for Egyptian helicopters, which facilitates Umrah and maintenance operations and the production of spare parts locally for it due to its presence in large numbers.

chinese LOSAT

Regarding the family of Russian missiles L-UMTAS / UMTAS / OMTAS
The Turks came too late
The Russian VIKHR family and the Chinese CM-501/502 and HJ-7/10/11/12
and Korean AT-1K Raybolt/TAipers
And also the large local production of a number of HJ-8/11 missiles
Perhaps the only option available to the Turks is to increase the huge stock of ATGM missiles just to confront the increasing threats of a war with Israel during the past months. Egypt found that the Russians fired more than 100,000 ATGM missiles against Ukraine during the past two years, so there are only quick requests to increase the stock, which is what happened in 2013 when Egypt requested a rapid increase in stocks of KONKURS missiles with the AT-13/14 deals because there were threats to open new areas of conflict against the regime at the time, so Egypt quickly increased stocks of various weapons at this time.

MSS1.2
Perhaps the Egyptians are moving to replace the production lines of some missiles with newer versions. The Turks are playing on the price factor, and they cannot compete with the Chinese with their parallel missile version, LOSAT, nor with the Brazilians in anti-tank missiles such as the MSS 1.2, nor even with MICRO missiles such as the QN-202D, which AOI obtained the right to manufacture locally.

 

[Sami_1]

You want a lot but commit nothing, ToT is not going to happen just like that if ever. Best way to aquire some tech is to enter in some projects as partners and only one available are turkish ones for jumping in.
No one will give you ToT for finished product.

Everything is available with money and the volume of transactions. Simply put, if your words had any credibility, Egypt would not have turned to sources such as the Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Brazilians, and Serbs.

I was in one of the meetings about transferring manufacturing techniques for a whole series of products without purchasing a specific product. There is international competition, and for your information, the technology offered is from large European companies.

We also have a scientific research center that hinders corruption, and we can also create many technologies locally
The Egyptian market is very large. Some of the Israelis said that Egypt spent 120 billion dollars from 2013-2021, including 60 billion dollars in arms deals, 40 imports and 20 local manufacturing. Simply put, this is what Israel was able to learn, while a whole series of weapons such as ballistic missiles, chemical and biological weapons, and even Also weapons with local designs that have not been announced

Simply put, when Egypt launches the production of a training aircraft locally, how much will the local market do?
Egypt actually produced 200 K-8E aircraft, including 160 for the local market and 40 for export.
The Korean deal includes 70 + 10 + 36 - 100, meaning that you are talking about a local market of up to 200 aircraft. Therefore, the competition is fierce because it is larger than any deal that the Koreans have implemented for their local market. Also, the Koreans are not losers. They executed contracts for 270 aircraft, meaning that they spent on scientific research and developing the aircraft they obtained. Therefore, adding a new market that may reach 240 aircraft with production for export from Egypt to African and Arab countries makes the level of profits that Korea obtains very large, so why do they not give the greatest amount of technology transfer and TOT?
The same thing is true. Egypt's defense market is huge and well-known. I will give you a very simple example. Last year, Israel was complaining that Egypt was transferring weapons stores of 900 SCUD missiles near Cairo to other stores and was afraid to transfer them to Sinai. First, Egypt would show this huge stock of old missiles that were produced in the eighties and nineties. So what is it? The size of Egypt's stock of solid-fueled ballistic missiles
I will give you other complex examples of the scene in 2012. The United States and Europe lifted a temporary ban on arms exports to Egypt. Egypt compensated for this with a huge deal for ballistic missiles with China and other countries to send a signal to the Americans that if you withhold a weapon from us, we will compensate it with other weapons.

There are also other things. I will give you a very simple example
SAMSUNG wanted to establish an electronics and screen factory either in Samar, Morocco, or South Africa, Egypt. Samsung went too far in the event of establishing the factory in Egypt. We will buy a 155 mm ammunition factory from you immediately, and the Korean company has agreed to it. The volume of the Korean company’s exports from its factory in Egypt has exceeded $500 million.
The Koreans also get other contracts, such as metro trains and commercial ships from the Korean docks, everything in return. Will this leave the market with a story that TOT cannot be transferred?
I will give you an example: the Turks are pressuring the Egyptians to participate in the KAAN project. I see it as an unsuccessful project that will not be completed because the Turks do not have sufficient technology or support, even if BAE transfers technology to them from behind the scenes, simply because the Turkish government and the Americans will not provide the technology to the Turks. It is true that the Americans got 23 billion dollars. From the deal to sell 40 aircraft and develop another 79 F-16s, but the Turks simply want to get a share of the Egyptian fifth generation fighter market for 120 aircraft to replace the F-16 BLOCK 15/32/MIRAGE-2000BM fighters, and they are offering Egypt to also develop F fighters. -16 BLOCK 40, that is, simply put, the Turks assigned themselves a share of Egypt’s defense market. Therefore, if the Indians, Koreans, and Chinese do not agree with us, then Egypt did not get what it wanted from China in some weapons. It found someone to offer an alternative. What China refuses to transfer in ballistic missile technology was provided by India and is not being provided by India. In the transfer of technology, South Korea rejects it. The global market is open, and why did Egypt encourage Eastern European countries, China, and North Korea in the 1980s and 1990s to produce weapons by contract, preventing them from expanding the global market for arms producers, so competition increases and restrictions decrease? Egypt is not a small country and its requirements are large. When America produces weapons with a license from anyone? A country that tells this country that we will never transfer TOT technology. You must develop it yourself. This is naive and foolish talk. Things are related to the volume of transactions.
Simply put, the size of the Egyptian Air Force is huge, and the same goes for the rest of the weapons. Therefore, the Egyptian defense market is attractive to any international arms supplier. Things are not as announced in the media or some people’s propaganda. Are the Turks willing to set up arms factories in Egypt and offer Egypt joint production and development of weapons?

The Roux themselves raised this matter in 2014 and visited the Egyptian arms factories and offered Egypt joint production and development of weapons. Egypt asked them to invest in two industrial cities in the Suez Canal economic zone. Nothing was announced about the chain of Russian factories there, but Egypt’s radars of Russian weapons were in exchange for Russian industrial investment. $7 billion OFFSET
Therefore, the Russians will not spend this amount unless the real Egyptian arms deals with the Russians are 3 times this number.

What you say has been said by many Chinese on forums. In the past, the Chinese found themselves not getting a good share of Egypt’s defense market. On the contrary, things are turning against them because Egypt imports Indian weapons. Many countries have alerted many countries that India is an alternative to China, so the Emirates and other countries turned to India instead of China.
Transferring technology is not difficult now because the competition is great. Look at the United States, Egypt refuses to buy weapons from it, and give it a disastrous alternative, which is France. France used to buy Hellfire missiles from America because there is no demand for French anti-tank missiles. Also, the same thing happened with drones when Egypt signed arms deals with France that attracted... It has other customers. After signing the contract, Egypt, India, Qatar, the Emirates, and Greece signed the RAFALE plane. America was offering these countries their fighters. Most of them ignored America and went for the alternative.


France expanded the French arms manufacturing base and began introducing new productsThe Emirates rejected the American conditions for the F-35 deal and chose a temporary alternative, RAFALE, and negotiated with China over the J-20.



Therefore, do not imagine that no one will transfer the technology of something that does not exist because markets and thinking have changed

 

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There is more than one competitor to it, whether the Chinese Z-10ME or the Indian LCH
The Indians offered a competitive offer because it included not only licensing local production in Egypt

As always you offer inferior technologies to Egypt as like Indian LCH

The combat history of the ATKS T129C plane is very interesting. The Kurds shot it down with an old SAM-7 missile.

Ukrainians shot down Dozens of Russian KA-52 , MI-28 Attack Helicopters with MANPADS
even in a non-mountainous area

Your hatred towards Turkiye is maximum level

 

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the T929 ATAK 2 aircraft by using the Russian TV3 engine. 117 turboshaft is available on the MI-17 & KA-52 aircraft to be a unified engine for Egyptian helicopters,

We are talking about the T-129 Attack Helicopter for Egypt
and Turkiye has developed TEI TS-1400 turboshaft Engine to power the T-129 and T-625 Helicopters

Regarding the family of Russian missiles L-UMTAS / UMTAS / OMTAS
The Turks came too late
The Russian VIKHR family and the Chinese CM-501/502 and HJ-7/10/11/12
and Korean AT-1K Raybolt/TAipers

Turkiye has dozens of systems including 180+ km KUZGUN-TJ Missile with IIR seeker to carry by Attack Helicopters and UCAVs

dont compare inferior technologies with superior Turkish technologies


S.Korean AT-1K Raybolt/TAipers are nothing to compare with superior Turkish Missiles like 50 km UMTAS-GM Block-2 with IIR+TV+Datalink

even 25-40 km Chinese CM-501GA/502 Missiles are nothing to compare with 40-180 km KUZGUN-KY and KUZGUN-TJ Missiles

 

[Sami_1]

You offer inferior technologies to Egypt ..
including monkey model weapons like S.Korean FA-50
USA and Israel will not give Radar and Air to Air Missiles to Egypt for FA-50

Egyptian F-16s are still lack AIM-120 air to air Missile


250 km German TRML-4D Radar is inferior to Turkish ERALP AESA Radar which was able to detect and track the International Space Station ( RCS dbm2 of 31 ) at a range of 729 km and an altitude of 423 km

Turkiye can offer the best Air Defense Umbrella than S.Korea , India and Germany

-- KORKUT 35mm SPAAG with airburst ammunition
-- SUNPUR MANPADS better than American STINGER and French MISTRAL
-- HISAR-A and HISAR-O low-medium range Air Defense Systems
-- GURZ hybrid Air Defense System like Russian PANTSIR
-- GOKDEMIR Air Defense System like American NASAMS
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense System with range of up to 250 km

GaN based AESA Radars with KEMENT tactical Data-Link
Full of Turkish technology from IIR-RF seekers to engines from chips to GAN transmitters

These are your illusions and propaganda, but things are different
You are not the best, nor will you offer what others refuse. I will give you a simple example
When Egypt attacked the Turkish Al-Watiya base, President Sisi congratulated the Egyptian electronic warfare weapon because the Turks struck in light of the interference with Turkish radars and Turkish war systems.
Simply put, the technology of the Turks was crushed mercilessly

I do not care about the repetition of your criticism of Turkish products because it is not you who determines that your products are preferable to the fact that Turkish products are cheaper because they are of lower quality and less efficient. Egypt deals with the Turkish product like the Chinese product. It will incorporate other European technologies that are higher and better, not the Turkish product.

Regarding radars, India offers the UTTAM radar, which is better than the Turkish radar. Also, the Koreans know full well that Egypt rejected the Korean ESR-500 radar because Samar wants a better radar. We did not talk about the Turkish radar because it has no experience in its operations and has not been in the Turkish Air Force for years.

You offer products that are not in service and are not reliable. You display a helicopter that was destroyed by a missile produced in 1968, and you display a training aircraft that did not enter service, and you continue to advertise that we have better products. This is childish behavior because it is unrealistic and does not exist, and you continue to repeat your words because you cannot be convinced. You are a parrot that repeats without understanding and repeats. Without reason and repeated without thinking, we are still naive children to be convinced by what you say of illogical and illogical words

We put it simply: what the Europeans reject, the Europeans accept, what the Chinese reject, the Chinese accept, and what the Chinese reject, the Indians accept. Every person who comes from a country thinks that he is the only manufacturer and the best manufacturer, and this is naive talk and indicates a lack of experience and a lack of thinking. The world has dozens of countries and the competition is intense globally.

When I presented an example on the German radar, I explained that your product must be better, and of course you are not better. The solution I proposed is to develop a product that is competitive and parallel to the European one. I told you that if your product is better because it is half the price of the European product, are you stupid for selling a better product at a low price, or are you saying? Things are unreal and delusional. You are only in your mind's mind that Samar is moving towards Turkey because it will have cheaper products and increased competition with the Europeans. I will give you an example of why Europe will invest $10 billion in Egypt. This is compensation for the Egyptian Navy's deals with Italy and also as competition for the cheap Turkish product so that Egypt does not turn to Europe when it finds... A new competitor offers what is better than him. It is enough only for the advertising carried out by the Turks. Egypt will buy Turkish products and produce Turkish products under license, so we find Europe offering much better offers than the Turks. That is, we are manipulating everyone in exchange for getting the best that is available at the lowest cost.

Why do the Turks come to Egypt?

Interest in Türkiye 68%
Energy is available in Egypt, whether now or in the future. Simply put, Egypt is establishing additional 60 megawatt stations within 7 years, rising to an additional 90 megawatts, in addition to the current 60 megawatts.
The Egyptian market, with 116 million people, is larger than the Turkish market
Interest in Egypt is lower, inflation in Egypt is lower
The Turkish economy is not expected to recover within the next 10 years as long as the Turkish regime remains in place

You are coming to Egypt out of love for Egypt, but rather out of your interests, and you will give your best in order to obtain a share of the Egyptian defense and civil market. We do not see that you have any distinction except in limited products, and you are not the most developed or the most superior. On the contrary, the balance of military forces of your competitor is actually superior to you, and simply your gains in the sea region. The economic average is limited because you are not the strongest and you are not the one who imposes your will. This has explained to us the famous proverb that says your gains will be proportional to the length of your artillery range. Simply put, countries do not deal with the opinions of teenagers on military forums, and no one talks much about our products. The best countries have practical and operational standards and previous experience to decide what is best for you in terms of proportions. I say to you, Turkey is from America and it controls the world, and everyone fears Turkey. This is on your bed when you sleep, but in the real world, you are new to the technology market and you want to open a market and you want a large market, and European products are mostly better than Turkish products, and you should offer a lot of discounts in order to be contracted with you and not Because you are the best as you imagine
I explained to you that Egypt has read the global scene well and knows the future of Turkey, so it did not declare hostility directly with you, but rather is waiting for the fruit, which is the Turkish economy, to fall.
Also, the American-Gulf-Israeli alliance made you Iranians want to cooperate with Egypt to be an anti-Gulf alliance, Israel, India and America.
That is, it is not a matter of finding a Turkish product, nor are the Turks sweet and tasty. The issue is all about global business and the interests of countries. You do not understand that and repeat the words of young children, which makes it discreditable. I ignore most of your responses because it is a waste of my time to respond to you.

 

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These are your illusions and propaganda, but things are different
You are not the best, nor will you offer what others refuse. I will give you a simple example

Nahhhh
We have the best Systems to compare with S.Korea , India and Germany

Therefore we offer T-129 , ANKA-3 , AKINCI , KIZILELMA , HURJET and KAAN for Egypt
Also superior Missiles

Regarding radars, India offers the UTTAM radar, which is better than the Turkish radar.

You are comparing inferior technology GaAS based UTTAM Radar

Turkish MURAD AESA Radar has superior GaN technology

India , South Korea , Germany are nothing to compare with Turkiye in aviation Industry

 

[Sami_1]

As always you offer inferior technologies to Egypt as like Indian LCH



Ukrainians shot down Dozens of Russian KA-52 , MI-28 Attack Helicopters with MANPADS
even in a non-mountainous area

Your hatred towards Turkiye is maximum level

As always you offer inferior technologies to Egypt as like Indian LCH



Ukrainians shot down Dozens of Russian KA-52 , MI-28 Attack Helicopters with MANPADS
even in a non-mountainous area

Your hatred towards Turkiye is maximum level

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You are as naive as a tool. Who determines the highest and lowest technical level? Is he as exhausted as you? Of course notWhy don't you stop lying?The T-129 plane was destroyed in its first operational clash against a production missile in 1968. G Why do you blame your product? It failed in its first operational test.That is, it is simply the plane with low performance, space, and capabilities, and the lowest quality is the T-129You compare it to an aircraft that did not lose battles at all because it did not engage in them
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ilitia-in-syrias-afrin-erdogan-idUSKBN1FU0M3/

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1FU0L1/


The victim is the T-129, which fell prey to Kurdish shoulder missiles. Are we naive to buy a product that has failed scientifically? It is clear that it is not weaponized and cannot provide any protection, and the pilots are easily killed because it is a plane that crashes. Where is the god that you say is technically superior and is exposed and operationally broken?

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Secondly, the Russians lost 40 helicopters in exchange for what they destroyed. When the Russians destroyed 15,800 tanks and armored vehicles, this would be an overwhelming victory for the Russians. Why do you ignore the facts? And 1,275 rocket artillery, 9,216 field guns, and 21,397 vehicles.Every response to you shows that you do not understand anything and that you are a parrotYou say that the equipment is less efficient, while the equipment is the one that was destroyed, and its operational experience shows that it is a disaster in the event that it is overtaken and that it needs development and modifications. You claim an imaginary superiority that does not exist. You claim victories while you are defeated. You claim that you are generous and you compromise in order to get something because you failed to get it with strength. The friendship they offered is because you failed to antagonize us, not because you are Muslim or have morals. Look at yourself, you talk about being superior and that you have the upper hand, so we are forced to explain to you the truth about your affairs, and that you are the ones who came to us under duress and with a broken nose.

 

[Sami_1]

Nahhhh
We have the best Systems to compare with S.Korea , India and Germany

Therefore we offer T-129 , ANKA-3 , AKINCI , KIZILELMA , HURJET and KAAN for Egypt
Also superior Missiles



You are comparing inferior technology GaAS based UTTAM Radar

Turkish MURAD AESA Radar has superior GaN technology

India , South Korea , Germany are nothing to compare with Turkiye in aviation Industry

You do not understand at all that we are not as young as you and that you cannot be able to challenge us. Your words have made clear to us with practical evidence that the lies of your equipment that say it is superior are easily defeated and you continue to repeat your widespread lies, but you will never be able to transform what you say into the realities of Turkey. If it were superior, this would not be its situation politically or regionally.
You say that your plane is superior. I explained to you that it was easily crushed, and that your words are lies. You are the ones who say that we offered Egypt a wide range of weapons, and Egypt did not announce that it originally bought Turkish weapons, nor did it say that Turkish weapons are good. It is an offer made to Egypt and with Turkish concessions so that it can obtain contracts from Egypt. And I I explained to you that your weapon must be superior, so you say that we honor you with our superior weapons. I showed you through practical experience that your weapon is a failure and not worth its price, and that purchasing it is a risk. So how dare you claim that your failed, defeated, operationally destructive weapon is superior. What is funny is that you ignore all the facts and insist on what you say, which makes it clear that it has been done. You have been brainwashed to a high degree, or are you programmed without a mind? Are you a robot? Your mental powers must be examined
You do not claim superiority or knowledge that you are unable to prove. You belittle the status of other countries’ weapons and claim the superiority of your weapon, which is being crushed operationally. You are only dissing yourself with words, not in the areas of operations. Repeat whatever lies you tell. It is not me who is judging you, but rather the readers who can see with their own eyes what you are saying. A lie, not a fact, but in video and medicine. The operation was crushed mercilessly with primitive weapons, let alone armies that have more modern weapons. When you are defeated and your weapons are destroyed, what do you say then? We are superior. Your words become more laughable and ridiculous than proof of a point of view. You did not announce the number of T-129 planes shot down or the number. F-16 planes that fell in a clash in the Mediterranean last years or during the coup operations. We do not announce the hope of things because the balance of power is far removed from propaganda. We simply do not talk much, but we explain in a practical manner and impose our will with our strength and not with propaganda.

 

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Everything is available with money and the volume of transactions. Simply put, if your words had any credibility, Egypt would not have turned to sources such as the Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Brazilians, and Serbs.

I was in one of the meetings about transferring manufacturing techniques for a whole series of products without purchasing a specific product. There is international competition, and for your information, the technology offered is from large European companies.

We also have a scientific research center that hinders corruption, and we can also create many technologies locally
The Egyptian market is very large. Some of the Israelis said that Egypt spent 120 billion dollars from 2013-2021, including 60 billion dollars in arms deals, 40 imports and 20 local manufacturing. Simply put, this is what Israel was able to learn, while a whole series of weapons such as ballistic missiles, chemical and biological weapons, and even Also weapons with local designs that have not been announced

Simply put, when Egypt launches the production of a training aircraft locally, how much will the local market do?
Egypt actually produced 200 K-8E aircraft, including 160 for the local market and 40 for export.
The Korean deal includes 70 + 10 + 36 - 100, meaning that you are talking about a local market of up to 200 aircraft. Therefore, the competition is fierce because it is larger than any deal that the Koreans have implemented for their local market. Also, the Koreans are not losers. They executed contracts for 270 aircraft, meaning that they spent on scientific research and developing the aircraft they obtained. Therefore, adding a new market that may reach 240 aircraft with production for export from Egypt to African and Arab countries makes the level of profits that Korea obtains very large, so why do they not give the greatest amount of technology transfer and TOT?
The same thing is true. Egypt's defense market is huge and well-known. I will give you a very simple example. Last year, Israel was complaining that Egypt was transferring weapons stores of 900 SCUD missiles near Cairo to other stores and was afraid to transfer them to Sinai. First, Egypt would show this huge stock of old missiles that were produced in the eighties and nineties. So what is it? The size of Egypt's stock of solid-fueled ballistic missiles
I will give you other complex examples of the scene in 2012. The United States and Europe lifted a temporary ban on arms exports to Egypt. Egypt compensated for this with a huge deal for ballistic missiles with China and other countries to send a signal to the Americans that if you withhold a weapon from us, we will compensate it with other weapons.

There are also other things. I will give you a very simple example
SAMSUNG wanted to establish an electronics and screen factory either in Samar, Morocco, or South Africa, Egypt. Samsung went too far in the event of establishing the factory in Egypt. We will buy a 155 mm ammunition factory from you immediately, and the Korean company has agreed to it. The volume of the Korean company’s exports from its factory in Egypt has exceeded $500 million.
The Koreans also get other contracts, such as metro trains and commercial ships from the Korean docks, everything in return. Will this leave the market with a story that TOT cannot be transferred?
I will give you an example: the Turks are pressuring the Egyptians to participate in the KAAN project. I see it as an unsuccessful project that will not be completed because the Turks do not have sufficient technology or support, even if BAE transfers technology to them from behind the scenes, simply because the Turkish government and the Americans will not provide the technology to the Turks. It is true that the Americans got 23 billion dollars. From the deal to sell 40 aircraft and develop another 79 F-16s, but the Turks simply want to get a share of the Egyptian fifth generation fighter market for 120 aircraft to replace the F-16 BLOCK 15/32/MIRAGE-2000BM fighters, and they are offering Egypt to also develop F fighters. -16 BLOCK 40, that is, simply put, the Turks assigned themselves a share of Egypt’s defense market. Therefore, if the Indians, Koreans, and Chinese do not agree with us, then Egypt did not get what it wanted from China in some weapons. It found someone to offer an alternative. What China refuses to transfer in ballistic missile technology was provided by India and is not being provided by India. In the transfer of technology, South Korea rejects it. The global market is open, and why did Egypt encourage Eastern European countries, China, and North Korea in the 1980s and 1990s to produce weapons by contract, preventing them from expanding the global market for arms producers, so competition increases and restrictions decrease? Egypt is not a small country and its requirements are large. When America produces weapons with a license from anyone? A country that tells this country that we will never transfer TOT technology. You must develop it yourself. This is naive and foolish talk. Things are related to the volume of transactions.
Simply put, the size of the Egyptian Air Force is huge, and the same goes for the rest of the weapons. Therefore, the Egyptian defense market is attractive to any international arms supplier. Things are not as announced in the media or some people’s propaganda. Are the Turks willing to set up arms factories in Egypt and offer Egypt joint production and development of weapons?

The Roux themselves raised this matter in 2014 and visited the Egyptian arms factories and offered Egypt joint production and development of weapons. Egypt asked them to invest in two industrial cities in the Suez Canal economic zone. Nothing was announced about the chain of Russian factories there, but Egypt’s radars of Russian weapons were in exchange for Russian industrial investment. $7 billion OFFSET
Therefore, the Russians will not spend this amount unless the real Egyptian arms deals with the Russians are 3 times this number.

What you say has been said by many Chinese on forums. In the past, the Chinese found themselves not getting a good share of Egypt’s defense market. On the contrary, things are turning against them because Egypt imports Indian weapons. Many countries have alerted many countries that India is an alternative to China, so the Emirates and other countries turned to India instead of China.
Transferring technology is not difficult now because the competition is great. Look at the United States, Egypt refuses to buy weapons from it, and give it a disastrous alternative, which is France. France used to buy Hellfire missiles from America because there is no demand for French anti-tank missiles. Also, the same thing happened with drones when Egypt signed arms deals with France that attracted... It has other customers. After signing the contract, Egypt, India, Qatar, the Emirates, and Greece signed the RAFALE plane. America was offering these countries their fighters. Most of them ignored America and went for the alternative.


France expanded the French arms manufacturing base and began introducing new productsThe Emirates rejected the American conditions for the F-35 deal and chose a temporary alternative, RAFALE, and negotiated with China over the J-20.



Therefore, do not imagine that no one will transfer the technology of something that does not exist because markets and thinking have changed

Dude, you could spare me of sausage post and just say that i am right on this one. Hypothetical scenarios are irrelevant, when high tech military gear tech is in question tot does not happen, no matter money how much you give, ask saudis. You have to make you own effort for that ask turks.

 

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You do not understand at all that we are not as young as you and that you cannot be able to challenge us. Your words have made clear to us with practical evidence that the lies of your equipment that say it is superior are easily defeated and you continue to repeat your widespread lies, but you will never be able to transform what you say into the realities of Turkey.

You can buy only monkey model weapons like F-16 without AIM-120 Missile and RAFALE without METEOR Missile

And Countries like India , S.Korea , Germany dont have technologies to sell these weapons to Egypt


..... T-129 , ANKA-3 , AKINCI , KIZILELMA , and KAAN ....

You are as naive as a tool.

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There are dozens of videos which shows Russian KA-52 , MI-28 and MI-35 Attack Helicopters hit by MANPADS

Go and say this to Russians

 

[GoMig-21]

Russian KA-52 hit by MANPADS

I believe that one was hit in the tail boom but returned safely to base. You can even see the hit was right at the tail end and looked like it wasn't affected too much by it.

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A testament to the dual counter-rotating rotors concept. It doesn't need the tail rotor to counter the torque spin of a single main rotor.

 

[Ghostkiller]

I believe that one was hit in the tail boom but returned safely to base. You can even see the hit was right at the tail end and looked like it wasn't affected too much by it.

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A testament to the dual counter-rotating rotors concept. It doesn't need the tail rotor to counter the torque spin of a single main rotor.

But we saw a lot of downed KA-52. I remember very well KA-52 got shot with Stugna-P ATGM (I send the video in the old forum).

Like I said, even with AH-64 Apaches, Apaches will suffer casualties. AH-64 never entered a war where the enemies have a proper/modern air defenses.

 

[MMM-E]

I believe that one was hit in the tail boom but returned safely to base. You can even see the hit was right at the tail end and looked like it wasn't affected too much by it.

Long version .... KA-52 was shot down

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Ukrainian soldier shot down a Russian Ka 52 helicopter with an Igla MANPADS​

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the moment when the Russian Ka-52 helicopter was shot down​

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Another Ka-52 helicopter was shot down in Zaporizhzhya - Russia lost more than 40 Ka-52 in Ukraine​

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[xbat]

Eqyptian KA52 with president S system shot down by ISIS too, every system can be hit

 

[Ghostkiller]

Eqyptian KA52 with president S system shot down by ISIS too, every system can be hit

It wasn't a KA-52 but UH-60. The UH-60 wasn't shot down because it was on land. IDK if you are talking about this incident or the MI-17 ? Which one?