Egyptian Armed Forces

MMM-E · May 5, 2024

All Attack Helicopters are easy target for MANPADS and mobile SAMs

therefore I prefer silent killer UCAVs which fly above 30.000 feet and attack on enemy targets from 30-40-50 km ....... even from 150 km away

AKINCI UCAV is more dangerous than KA-52 or AH-64 Attack Helicopter to hunt enemy Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS and mobile SAMs

Ukrainian troops shoot down Russian MI-28 Attack Helicopter using British ‘Starstreak’ missile

GoMig-21 · May 5, 2024

Ghostkiller said:
But we saw a lot of downed KA-52. I remember very well KA-52 got shot with Stugna-P ATGM (I send the video in the old forum).

Like I said, even with AH-64 Apaches, Apaches will suffer casualties. AH-64 never entered a war where the enemies have a proper/modern air defenses.

That's true. I don't know if you remember earlier in this thread I posted about attack helicopters becoming "less important" in modern militaries exactly because of their role which subjects them to the variety of MANPADs, short-range mobile SAMs and ATGMs like you said. I posted about that earlier in the thread that because of that reason, attack helicopters -- in general -- will not be able to conduct the CAS roles they were originally intended to carry out because of how susceptible they are to the all-improving threat environment.

I think it was in response to one of @Sami_1 's awesome posts about the EGY army looking into more Ka-52s or something to that effect. It might've also been the result of @The SC and myself discussing the Mi-28N Havoc's mast radar and the ALBARET radar for the KA-52 & Kamov series helos and why the army didn't purchase it since it would clearly help improve mission successes etc. That's when I made the post about the attack helicopter losing its role and sami got upset with me.

Sami_1 · May 5, 2024

xbat said:
Eqyptian KA52 with president S system shot down by ISIS too, every system can be hit

Provide proof of this lie. This did not happen at all, isis
He destroyed the BLACK HAWK plane that was at the airport, but what you say did not happen to me at all

Sami_1 · May 5, 2024

MMM-E said:
You can buy only monkey model weapons like F-16 without AIM-120 Missile and RAFALE without METEOR Missile

And Countries like India , S.Korea , Germany dont have technologies to sell these weapons to Egypt

..... T-129 , ANKA-3 , AKINCI , KIZILELMA , and KAAN ....

Russian KA-52 hit by MANPADS

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There are dozens of videos which shows Russian KA-52 , MI-28 and MI-35 Attack Helicopters hit by MANPADS

Go and say this to Russians

You could not respond to that until you decided that my words were incorrect, so you came up with naive words that say Egypt buys miserable copies of RAFALE planes that are better than your entire fleet of F-16 planes, which I have no hope of topping the Rafale. The Turks say we wait for the attack on Greece when the Greek RAFAL planes arrive in... Maintenance

The biggest evidence that what you are saying is nonsense is that the weapons that Samar orders are always of special specifications and in accordance with Egyptian requirements. The MIG-29M/M2 plane was manufactured by the Russians in accordance with Egyptian demands, and the KA-52 plane was developed according to Samari’s demands, and Larus the Nile Crocodile ordered the S-300V system developed for Egyptian air defenses, and he had it. A missile with a range of 350 kilometers. The Turks themselves did not obtain it in the first batch of the S-400 system, which Egypt rejected from the beginning because its specifications did not suit the accompaniment of the Egyptian ground forces. You are still speaking with a miserable beginning that explains that the Turks have no thought or vision. They repeat naive talk without any respectable thought. You are still under the illusion that your equipment is better, and this was not proven when we proved that the unfortunate plane, the T-129, then you began to say that the plane was an easy target for these missiles, and you did not forget that in the first game and the first engagement it fell, other than that this plane has a dark history in the country. For more than two years, they were correcting its many defects, and we were We call it the plane that has a watermelon on the front of it. Your situation is miserable and you need to resolve yourself psychologically and reveal your mental powers.

MMM-E · May 5, 2024

Sami_1 said:
You could not respond to that until you decided that my words were incorrect, so you came up with naive words that say Egypt buys miserable copies of RAFALE planes that are better than your entire fleet of F-16 planes,

Your fantasy world is far from the reality

Egyptian Air Force can not match with the Turkish Air Force

200 Egyptian F-16s are without AIM-120 BVR missile
and 24 Egyptian Rafales armed with 60 km MICA air to air Missiles

while 163 Turkish CCIP modernized F-16s and 29 F-16 Block50+ armed with 120 km AIM-120C7 air to air missiles

Your Rafales are easy target for Turkish F-16s in BVR combat
Thanks to 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC 600 km AESA Radar to detect Rafale from 350 km away and guide 120 km AIM-120C7 BVR missile via link-16 datalink

even I am not talking about upcoming Turkish Air Force

Egypt need real partner instead of USA-France which dont give AIM-120 and METEOR BVR missiles to Egypt

MMM-E · May 5, 2024

Sami_1 said:
the S-300V system developed for Egyptian air defenses, and he had it. A missile with a range of 350 kilometers. The Turks themselves did not obtain it in the first batch of the S-400 system

Boy stop fabricate fake stories

Your S300V has only 200 km missile .... nothing else
Turkiye bought 192 S400 Missiles including 240 km 48N6E3 and 380 km 40N6E

and Turkiye create its own Air Defense Umbrella with range of up to 150-250 km ( SIPER Block2 missile with booster )

so We will use SIPER SAM for even TF-2000 class Destroyer project
Egypt is still with monkey model weapons like FREMM Frigate without ASTER-30 SAM

The SC · May 6, 2024

MMM-E said:
Boy stop fabricate fake stories

Your S300V has only 200 km missile .... nothing else
Turkiye bought 192 S400 Missiles including 240 km 48N6E3 and 380 km 40N6E

and Turkiye create its own Air Defense Umbrella with range of up to 150-250 km ( SIPER Block2 missile with booster )

so We will use SIPER SAM for even TF-2000 class Destroyer project
Egypt is still with monkey model weapons like FREMM Frigate without ASTER-30 SAM

Sami is right about this point.. the Egyptian S-300V4 is a special edition.. it came with the S-400 missile of 380 km range.. it is the 40N6E

https://www.defensemirror.com/news/31024/Egypt_Gets_its_Own____Iron_Dome____Air_Defense_System

The SC · May 6, 2024

A comprehensive report on the Egyptian drone fleet

The use of drones in the Egyptian Air Force is not new today. Rather, Egypt is one of the first countries operating drones in the region and has owned and manufactured a wide range of drones in partnership with many countries, whether with China, Argentina, South Africa, America and others.

Egypt has huge numbers of drones, which qualifies it to be a frightening and significant deterrent force characterized by the following:

- Great numerical density
- Huge armament density
- High advanced technology
- It is also characterized by diversity
- The ability to perform high-quality reconnaissance over long distances.

Egypt is moving towards development and progress in the field of unmanned aircraft, as regional powers compete to enhance their military capabilities.

Its fleet of drones has become a witness to its tremendous military and technological renaissance, becoming the largest Arab and African fleet of its kind, which strengthens Egypt’s position as an effective and independent regional power in a changing world that is moving towards innovation and technological superiority.

In this article, we reveal the secrets of the huge Egyptian fleet of drones, and shed light on the latest technologies that provide them.

The Egyptian drone fleet includes a huge number of drones, including:

Wing Loong 1D UAV: an advanced combat reconnaissance aircraft, characterized by its high reconnaissance capabilities and the possibility of arming it with different types of ammunition.

CH-5: A powerful combat UAV, distinguished by its large load of ammunition, long range, and accuracy in hitting targets.

H12 Poseidon UAV: An Egyptian-made aircraft, intended for offensive and reconnaissance missions. It is distinguished by its resistance to jamming systems and its ability to carry 6 bombs.

SRS-1A: Heavy drone, capable of vertical take-off and landing, used for intelligence gathering and armed attack.

June30 UAV: 100% Egyptian plane, distinguished by its ability to remain in the air for 24 hours and fly at an altitude of 7 thousand meters.

Thebes-30 ISR: An Egyptian aircraft designated for reconnaissance, surveillance, and information gathering. It is distinguished by its ability to remain in the air for 30 continuous hours.

6th October drone: A reconnaissance drone, with a maximum speed of 260 km/h, and can fly for 30 hours continuously with an operating range of 240 kilometers. It is also an advanced model of the June 30 drone.

NUT UAV: An Egyptian plane, intended for surveillance, reconnaissance, and information gathering. It is distinguished by its ability to remain in the air for 14 hours.

Ahmous UAV: An Egyptian plane, intended for armed attack, reconnaissance, and surveillance, and is distinguished by its ability to fly at a speed of 250 km/hour.

Orabi UAVs...an integrated system for training

The Egyptian “Orabi” drones are an integrated system consisting of 5 models, designated for training air defense forces. This group includes:

Orabi 1: Designed for short- and medium-term training. It is distinguished by its ability to remain in the air for 60 minutes.
Orabi 2: It is characterized by ease of use and high speed, characterized by its ability to remain in the air for 45 minutes.
Orabi 3: It is distinguished by its small size and delta-shaped wings, and is distinguished by its ability to remain in the air for 45 minutes.
Orabi 4: Designed for reconnaissance and surveillance operations, it is distinguished by its ability to fly for 20 minutes at an altitude of 400 meters and a range of 10 km.
Orabi 5: An advanced reconnaissance aircraft, distinguished by its ability to fly for 120 minutes at a speed of 80 km/h.

The SC · May 6, 2024

Continued..

CH-4 UAV
Egypt has an unknown number of them. The Chinese CH-4B drone is one of two versions of the CH-4 drone, which are the CH-4A reconnaissance drone, while the CH-4B is an attack/reconnaissance drone. The CH-4B is a medium-altitude high survivability aircraft that is identical to the American MQ-1 Predator drone.

Wing loong II UAV
The Wing Loong II UAV can carry a number of different missiles and bombs including Lan Jian 7 (Blue Arrow 7) laser-guided air-to-surface missiles, TG100 laser/INS/GPS-guided bombs, and the AR-1/HJ-10 anti-tank missile — the Chinese equivalent to the American-made Hellfire missile. Overall, the Wing Loong II can purportedly carry a payload of up to 400 kilograms. The UAV can fly for about 20 hours with a maximum speed of 370 kilometers per hour. The Wing Loong II has an operational radius of 1,500 kilometers.

ASN-209 Reconnaissance UAV

It is manufactured under license from China, which is used to collect information and data on hostile targets and areas

EAB0 - 3A target UAV

It is considered one of the highest levels of performance in its class, as it has a maximum speed of up to 400 kilometers per hour, thanks to its jet engine, and the ability to fly for 50 minutes, at an altitude of up to 6 kilometers.

QAED target drone

Sahm-1 Target plane
Produced by the Arab Organization for Industrialization, this aircraft is launched to confirm the range of air defense systems and also the ability of radars to detect and deal with them in various circumstances.

K M K Target plane

Taba 1 and Taba 2... high speed and sharp maneuvers
The “Taba 1” aircraft is one of the most prominent models of these drones, as it has a tremendous ability to fly at speeds of up to 500 kilometers per hour, while its maximum altitude reaches 6 kilometers. “Taba 1” is distinguished by its ability to remain in the air for 50 minutes, which makes it ideal for training and reconnaissance missions.

“Taba 2” comes as an improved version of its predecessor, as it features a unique design equipped with front fins known as “canards”. These fins allow the aircraft to perform sharp aerial maneuvers at a maximum speed of 850 kilometers per hour, with the ability to remain in the air for 8 hours.

SkyEye BAE systems reconnaissance UAV

It has a payload of 82 kg and is equipped with a 52 hp engine that provides it with a maximum speed of 200 km/h and a maximum ceiling height of 4600 metres. It weighs 570 kg and can fly for 8 continuous hours. It is 4.10 meters long and has a wingspan of 7.32 metres. It is used for reconnaissance missions on the battlefield and to transmit data. And border control.

RQ-20 Puma hand-launched UAV
American unmanned aircraft system which is small, battery powered, and hand-launched. Its primary mission is surveillance and intelligence gathering using an electro-optical and infrared camera.

MMM-E · May 6, 2024

The SC said:
Sami is right about this point.. the Egyptian S-300VM is a special edition.. it came with the S-400 missile of 380 km range.. it is the 40N6E

Only 200-250 km 9M82M, 9M83M missiles for the Egyptian S-300 VM(Antey-2500) Air Defense System

S-300VM doesnt have 40N6E Missile

Only Russia has S-300V4 ( Antey-400 ) variant with 400 km 40N6 Missile
and Turkish S400s use 380 km 40N6E Missile

Still Egyptian S300VM is more dangerous than SAMP-T and PATRIOT
9M82M Missile has speed of mach 5.4 to hit Fighter Jets from 200 km away

xbat · May 6, 2024

Sami_1 said:
Provide proof of this lie. This did not happen at all, isis
He destroyed the BLACK HAWK plane that was at the airport, but what you say did not happen to me at all

Ghostkiller said:
It wasn't a KA-52 but UH-60. The UH-60 wasn't shot down because it was on land. IDK if you are talking about this incident or the MI-17 ? Which one?

Militants Shoot Down Egyptian Helicopter

CAIRO — Islamist militants shot down an Egyptian military helicopter in the Sinai Peninsula with a surface-to-air missile over the weekend, raising new alarms about the terrorist insurgency that developed there in response to the military takeover la

www.military.com

OK , replays are too harsh, i may be wrong about the type of helicopter but i remember a russian made heli with president s DIRCM system was shot down. i saw the photos at old forum. must be the one in the video
sorry for the video above , i generally dont post this kind of videos(no need to praise those monkeys, and no need to hurt some good people)

The SC · May 6, 2024

Continued..

Schiebel Camcopter S-100
It is a medium-endurance medium-range unmanned helicopter designed, developed and manufactured by the Austrian company Schiebel GmbH. It has been developed to serve both military and civilian applications.

Yarara UAV
A light aircraft designated for reconnaissance, espionage, and identifying targets for artillery fire and guided missiles was obtained with a complete transfer of manufacturing technology locally to the Egyptian engineering group Ariegsa, which also manufactures ground robots and unmanned submarines for the Egyptian army and in cooperation with Chinese companies. And Serbian, unlike Argentinian companies.

The aircraft is equipped with a set of navigation and detection technologies as follows:

1- GPS satellite navigation system
2- Inertial Navigation System “INS”
3- Telemetry Data Transmission System at a frequency of (900 MHz - 2.4 GHz).
4- An electro-optical detection and monitoring system “EO Electro-Optic” during the day and infrared monitoring sensors for night photography “IR-Sensor”.
5- The aircraft is controlled by a ground control station equipped with a data display and mission planning screen with a wireless communication system and a digital video data link.
6- The maximum speed of the plane reaches 150 km/hour, its range reaches 50 km, and the maximum altitude reaches 4000 meters, and it can remain in the air for 6 hours.

Cabure UAV
The aircraft is used for reconnaissance, espionage, research, and target identification for artillery and missiles, border monitoring operations, security maintenance, and tasks of analyzing casualties and damage after bombing or damage to infrastructure, in addition to the operations of escorting and securing ground units.

The aircraft contains a GPS satellite navigation system, inertial navigation INS, a day, night and thermal imaging camera that contains highly sensitive detectors to light changes (CCD-TV camera), an infrared sensor system, and a remote-controlled data transmission system.

The plane's speed reaches 105 km/h, its range reaches 20 km, it flies at an altitude of 2000 meters, and it can stay in the air for a maximum of two hours.

Teledyne Ryan Model 324 Scarab UAV
This UAV was manufactured in the late 1980s specifically for the Egyptian Air Force only by the American company Teledyne Ryan.

Aircraft specifications

– Length: 6.1 meters
– Maximum take-off weight: 1.17 tons
– Structure and design: Completely phantom, made of composite materials
– Guidance: inertial navigation INS and GPS satellite + remote control
- Launch system: A modified propulsion engine specific to the American Harpoon mobile missile
– Landing: by parachute with an anti-shock airbag
– Reconnaissance systems: a television camera + an infrared day and night detection and imaging system
– Internal load: 131 kg
– Speed: 970 km/h
– Maximum altitude: 13 thousand metres
– Maximum range: 2250 km and some sources indicate 2600 km and 3150 km.

The SC · May 6, 2024

MMM-E said:
Only 200-250 km 9M82M, 9M83M missiles for the Egyptian S-300 VM(Antey-2500) Air Defense System

S-300VM doesnt have 40N6E Missile
View attachment 38430

Only Russia has S-300V4 ( Antey-400 ) variant with 400 km 40N6 Missile
and Turkish S400s use 380 km 40N6E Missile

Still Egyptian S300VM is more dangerous than SAMP-T and PATRIOT
9M82M Missile has speed of mach 5.4 to hit Fighter Jets from 200 km away

Egypt got the S-300V4.. my error I wrote VM

The SC · May 6, 2024

The RISC3 command and control center is 100% Egyptian-made, produced by the Electronics Factory of the Arab Organization for Industrialization, and has been in service with the Egyptian Army since 2019.