Hamartia Antidote
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Well not all the white people could afford to move out of those neighborhoods in the 1950's. They gradually became either a minority or a hidden majority.
USA: The Decaying Empire
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Well not all the white people could afford to move out of those neighborhoods in the 1950's. They gradually became either a minority or a hidden majority.
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I forgot to add, there will always be intellectually deficient racist crapheads putting down USA in their rank jealousy and anger. Rather than criticise what is wrong, and support what is good....they do the reverse.
They only serve to illustrate to others how they will be looked at if their ideology achieves any primacy where it matters.
They just dont understand the real US of A....the envy blinds them.
From its great blending and great story....out of many one.
That great principles and great values.... supersede all identities.
Its a work in progress, but so is the human realm at large....and always will be.
In the domain of music alone so many things are emblematic of the USA and upset bigots and racists in other countries (long used to ethno-centric majoritarianism) that look down on other humans for whatever ugly reason.
This springsteen-sounding song of passage of time (the building up and slow decay of an area eventually, a stretch of highway in Michigan in real life) would have been great even if it ended at the last lyric.....given all the little treats they insert all through the song (major minor key dichotomy....and the deeply impressive lyrics, almost folk-ballad style..... the music adapting to some of the lyrics even...)
But does it end there? Nope one of the most sublime guitar solos and rock codas of all time ensues and seems to go on forever. Those 5 minutes could just keep continuing on and on....that's the USA.
To me it represents the infinite uplifting potential and promise in the land that spawned rock music to begin with.
Even though knopfler and dire straits are from across the pond...Rock could have ONLY come out of the USA....one can trace the specific ingredients, mixing process and refinement. That was then exported, inspired others and reverberated back to where it originated and on and on it goes...amazing.
One of my favourite driving songs of all time, chills down my spine each time at the ending each time (I still remember hearing it for the first time too)! The lyrics may end on a somber note but the "thats not all folks" solo never fails to put a smile on my face while air drumming heh.
@Hamartia Antidote @RabzonKhan @gomig @jhungary @gambit (I guess last few didnt come to this forum yet or at all...sigh)
@Sharma Ji since he is a music lover, dunno if he knows this one.
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Peregrine
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Umayaad Caliphate
Roman Empire
Macedonian Empire
Ottoman Empire
Persian Empire
Qing Dynasty
Mughal Empire
Tang Empire
Mongol Empire
British Empire
All dead and buried.
IMO the US is really not a Empire in the traditional sense. But still very powerful and fully comparable to some of the most powerful Empires in history.
Arguably The Caliphate, Ottoman, Macedonian, British, Mongol and Romans were militarily more superior to their respective contemporaries than USA was at its peak.
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But they should have had their life choices respected within the law of course. By and large they were. I knew an 80 year old that still lived in the apartment building she was born in. She owned the building and we respected her as one of the ladies of the neighborhood. In New York, though everyone basically kept to themselves by and large and hung out with whomever they made friends with, kids and adults alike.
F-22Raptor
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The US is the most economically, culturally, scientifically, and militarily powerful nation in human history. No other other nation or empire possessed all the advantages the US has today. None
The US will remain preeminent until the Sun envelopes the Earth.
Beijingwalker
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If human history were only 200 years
F-22Raptor
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Truth must hurt eh?
VCheng
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Please do not engage in such tit for tat. We have this thread to allow a counterpoint to US optimism and confidence - no matter how justified it may seem - to be discussed fairly, that is all.
Beijingwalker
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Lol, you must get hurt really badly and become crazy. forget about the whole human history, what US still occupies the top spot today? Trade? Industries? Agriculture? Manufacturing?
VCheng
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Please do not engage in such tit for tat. We have this thread to allow a counterpoint to US optimism and confidence - no matter how justified it may seem - to be discussed fairly, that is all.
Muji.Iqbal
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Police say multiple people have been shot at a high school in Perry, Iowa; suspect is dead
Police say multiple people have been shot at a high school in Perry, Iowa; suspect is dead© Provided by The Canadian Press
PERRY, Iowa (AP) — Multiple people were shot inside a small-town Iowa high school early Thursday as students prepared to start their first day of classes after their annual spring break, authorities said.
The suspect in the shooting in Perry, Iowa, has died of what investigators believe is a self-inflicted gunshot wound, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press. The official was not authorized to publicly discuss details of the investigation and spoke to The AP on condition of anonymity.
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The official also said that at least one of the victims is a school administrator.
Two gunshot victims were taken by ambulance to Iowa Methodist Medical Center in the state capital of Des Moines, a health system spokesperson said. Some other patients were transported to a second hospital in Des Moines, a spokesperson for MercyOne Des Moines Medical Center confirmed, declining to comment on the number of patients or their statuses.
The state capital is about 40 miles (64 kilometers) southeast of Perry, which has about 8,000 residents.
High school senior Ava Augustus said she was in a counselor's office, waiting for hers to arrive, when she heard three shots. She and other people barricaded the door, preparing to throw things if necessary, with a window being too small for an escape.
“And then we hear ‘He’s down. You can go out,’” Augustus said through tears. ”And I run and you can just see glass everywhere, blood on the floor. I get to my car and they’re taking a girl out of the auditorium who had been shot in her leg.”
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In Washington, U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland was briefed on the shooting. FBI agents from the Omaha-Des Moines office are assisting with the investigation led by the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation.
The shooting occurred in the backdrop of the Iowa caucuses and not far from where Republican presidential candidates were campaigning. GOP candidate Vivek Ramaswamy had a campaign event scheduled in Perry at 9 a.m. about a 1 1/2 miles (2.41 kilometers) from the high school but canceled it to have a prayer and intimate discussion, a spokesperson said.
Ramaswamy said the shooting is a sign of a “psychological sickness” in the country.
As of July 2021, Iowa does not require a permit to purchase a handgun or carry a firearm in public, though it mandates a background check for a person buying a handgun without a permit.
An active shooter was reported at 7:37 a.m. Thursday morning and officers arrived seven minutes later, Dallas County Adam Infante said. He added during a news conference that officers located multiple people with injuries, but couldn't confirm how many there were or their conditions.
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An enormous number of emergency vehicles surrounded the building that houses both the town's middle school and high school.
Zander Shelley, 15, was in a hallway waiting for the school day to start when he heard gunshots and dashed into a classroom, according to his father, Kevin Shelley. Zander was grazed twice and hid in the classroom before texting his father at 7:36 a.m.
Kevin Shelley, who drives a garbage truck, told his boss he had to run. “It was the most scared I’ve been in my entire life,” he said.
Rachael Kares, an 18-year-old senior, was wrapping up jazz band practice when she and her bandmates heard what she described as four gunshots, spaced apart.
“We all just jumped,” Kares said. “My band teacher looked at us and yelled, ‘Run!’ So we ran.”
Kares and many others from the school ran out past the football field, as she heard people yelling, “Get out! Get out!” She said she heard additional shots as she ran, but didn’t know how many. She was more concerned about getting home to her 3-year-old son.
“At that moment I didn’t care about anything except getting out because I had to get home with my son,” she said.
Erica Jolliff said that her daughter, a ninth grader, reported getting rushed from the school grounds at 7:45 am. Distraught, Jolliff was still looking for her son Amir, a sixth grader, one hour later.
“I just want to know that he’s safe and OK,” Jolliff said. “They won’t tell me nothing.”
The high school is part of the 1,785-student Perry Community School District. The town of Perry is more diverse than Iowa as a whole, with census figures showing that 31% of the residents are Hispanic, compared to less than 7% for the state. Those figures also show that nearly 19% of the town's residents were born outside the U.S.
Phone messages left with the Perry School Board’s president and vice president, and an email message left with Superintendent Clark Wicks, were not immediately returned.
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Associated Press writer Scott McFetridge and photojournalist Andrew Harnik contributed to this report from Perry, Iowa; Jim Salter contributed from O'Fallon, Missouri; Josh Funk contributed from Ohama, Nebraska. Trisha Ahmed from Minneapolis; Lindsay Whitehurst in Washington; Mike Balsamo in New York City; and John Hanna from Topeka, Kansas. AP researcher Rhonda Shafner contributed from New York City.
Nicholas Riccardi And Hannah Fingerhut, The Associated Press
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Another day, another mass shooting.
Police say multiple people have been shot at a high school in Perry, Iowa; suspect is dead
Police say multiple people have been shot at a high school in Perry, Iowa; suspect is dead© Provided by The Canadian Press
PERRY, Iowa (AP) — Multiple people were shot inside a small-town Iowa high school early Thursday as students prepared to start their first day of classes after their annual spring break, authorities said.
The suspect in the shooting in Perry, Iowa, has died of what investigators believe is a self-inflicted gunshot wound, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press. The official was not authorized to publicly discuss details of the investigation and spoke to The AP on condition of anonymity.
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The official also said that at least one of the victims is a school administrator.
Two gunshot victims were taken by ambulance to Iowa Methodist Medical Center in the state capital of Des Moines, a health system spokesperson said. Some other patients were transported to a second hospital in Des Moines, a spokesperson for MercyOne Des Moines Medical Center confirmed, declining to comment on the number of patients or their statuses.
The state capital is about 40 miles (64 kilometers) southeast of Perry, which has about 8,000 residents.
High school senior Ava Augustus said she was in a counselor's office, waiting for hers to arrive, when she heard three shots. She and other people barricaded the door, preparing to throw things if necessary, with a window being too small for an escape.
“And then we hear ‘He’s down. You can go out,’” Augustus said through tears. ”And I run and you can just see glass everywhere, blood on the floor. I get to my car and they’re taking a girl out of the auditorium who had been shot in her leg.”
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In Washington, U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland was briefed on the shooting. FBI agents from the Omaha-Des Moines office are assisting with the investigation led by the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation.
The shooting occurred in the backdrop of the Iowa caucuses and not far from where Republican presidential candidates were campaigning. GOP candidate Vivek Ramaswamy had a campaign event scheduled in Perry at 9 a.m. about a 1 1/2 miles (2.41 kilometers) from the high school but canceled it to have a prayer and intimate discussion, a spokesperson said.
Ramaswamy said the shooting is a sign of a “psychological sickness” in the country.
As of July 2021, Iowa does not require a permit to purchase a handgun or carry a firearm in public, though it mandates a background check for a person buying a handgun without a permit.
An active shooter was reported at 7:37 a.m. Thursday morning and officers arrived seven minutes later, Dallas County Adam Infante said. He added during a news conference that officers located multiple people with injuries, but couldn't confirm how many there were or their conditions.
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An enormous number of emergency vehicles surrounded the building that houses both the town's middle school and high school.
Zander Shelley, 15, was in a hallway waiting for the school day to start when he heard gunshots and dashed into a classroom, according to his father, Kevin Shelley. Zander was grazed twice and hid in the classroom before texting his father at 7:36 a.m.
Kevin Shelley, who drives a garbage truck, told his boss he had to run. “It was the most scared I’ve been in my entire life,” he said.
Rachael Kares, an 18-year-old senior, was wrapping up jazz band practice when she and her bandmates heard what she described as four gunshots, spaced apart.
“We all just jumped,” Kares said. “My band teacher looked at us and yelled, ‘Run!’ So we ran.”
Kares and many others from the school ran out past the football field, as she heard people yelling, “Get out! Get out!” She said she heard additional shots as she ran, but didn’t know how many. She was more concerned about getting home to her 3-year-old son.
“At that moment I didn’t care about anything except getting out because I had to get home with my son,” she said.
Erica Jolliff said that her daughter, a ninth grader, reported getting rushed from the school grounds at 7:45 am. Distraught, Jolliff was still looking for her son Amir, a sixth grader, one hour later.
“I just want to know that he’s safe and OK,” Jolliff said. “They won’t tell me nothing.”
The high school is part of the 1,785-student Perry Community School District. The town of Perry is more diverse than Iowa as a whole, with census figures showing that 31% of the residents are Hispanic, compared to less than 7% for the state. Those figures also show that nearly 19% of the town's residents were born outside the U.S.
Phone messages left with the Perry School Board’s president and vice president, and an email message left with Superintendent Clark Wicks, were not immediately returned.
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Associated Press writer Scott McFetridge and photojournalist Andrew Harnik contributed to this report from Perry, Iowa; Jim Salter contributed from O'Fallon, Missouri; Josh Funk contributed from Ohama, Nebraska. Trisha Ahmed from Minneapolis; Lindsay Whitehurst in Washington; Mike Balsamo in New York City; and John Hanna from Topeka, Kansas. AP researcher Rhonda Shafner contributed from New York City.
Nicholas Riccardi And Hannah Fingerhut, The Associated Press
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