Whatever

Developereo said:
LOL, even the autocratic leaders are learning the fine art of public stunts from the democratic politicians...
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My previous posts showing that ofcourse there is a publicity calculus and cynicism but but Putin is clearly showing a warmth to islam

In the West they talk about tolerance, Putin is showing warmth and from years and years ago, personally attended many mosque openings.
 
r3alist said:
My previous posts showing that ofcourse there is a publicity calculus and cynicism but but Putin is clearly showing a warmth to islam

In the West they talk about tolerance, Putin is showing warmth and from years and years ago, personally attended many mosque openings.
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Putin literally broke the back of radical Islamism in the slavic people. And joined them by force to Mother Russia in an unbelievably bloody (even by the standards of the slavs) 10 year second Chechen war.

But yes, if it makes you happy.

Cheers, Doc
 
vsdoc said:
Putin literally broke the back of radical Islamism in the slavic people. And joined them by force to Mother Russia in an unbelievably bloody (even by the standards of the slavs) 10 year second Chechen war.

But yes, if it makes you happy.

Cheers, Doc
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It doesn't make me happy doc.

Ofcourse there was a bloody brutal war.

Things have changed, a lot.

It probably makes sense for both sides to find common cause because they have probably identified they both value the same things, which is under attack... blood, soil and RELIGION 😇

I like pragmatic thinking that puts aside emotive urges, there is too much of it

But, in the spirit of the thread, whatever...
 
r3alist said:
My previous posts showing that ofcourse there is a publicity calculus and cynicism but but Putin is clearly showing a warmth to islam

In the West they talk about tolerance, Putin is showing warmth and from years and years ago, personally attended many mosque openings.
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Putin is a politician. No better and no worse than any other politician.

John McCain said it best when he said he looked into Putin's eyes and saw three letters K-G-B
 
r3alist said:
It doesn't make me happy doc.

Ofcourse there was a bloody brutal war.

Things have changed, a lot.

It probably makes sense for both sides to find common cause because they have probably identified they both value the same things, which is under attack... blood, soil and RELIGION 😇

I like pragmatic thinking that puts aside emotive urges, there is too much of it

But, in the spirit of the thread, whatever...
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Blood

Faith

Soil

Faith and Religion are not the same thing.

Cheers, Doc
 
Developereo said:
Putin is a politician. No better and no worse than any other politician.

John McCain said it best when he said he looked into Putin's eyes and saw three letters K-G-B
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No better, no worse? I don't think he is average in any sense.

What you care about with important powerful politicians are the ideas and interests they represent, more than the individual, generally

Putin is acting like a de facto head of orthodoxy, there is no question of him not representing orthodox interests

Also,I don't know whether McCain's analysis is worth my consideration, wonder what he saw in people's eyes when he was visiting eye sis.
 
vsdoc said:
Blood

Faith

Soil

Faith and Religion are not the same thing.

Cheers, Doc
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Yes, you don't need to tell caucasus Muslims about this, you need to be learning from them, they have everything to teach you if that's your thing.
 
r3alist said:
Yes, you don't need to tell caucasus Muslims about this, you need to be learning from them, they have everything to teach you if that's your thing.
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My thing is simple

My blood

My faith

My soil

Caucus Muslims are great fighters. MMA and on the battlefield.

Cheers, Doc
 
r3alist said:
No better, no worse? I don't think he is average in any sense.

What you care about with important powerful politicians are the ideas and interests they represent, more than the individual, generally

Putin is acting like a de facto head of orthodoxy, there is no question of him not representing orthodox interests

Also,I don't know whether McCain's analysis is worth my consideration, wonder what he saw in people's eyes when he was visiting eye sis.
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I am saying Putin is doing what is best for Putin, maybe for Russia.

He may be a useful ally to Muslims in some ways but I would be cautious. Many rich Russian oligarchs and friends of Putin are Jewish Zionists, so I would always keep one eye open. I don't think there are too many Christian Zionists in Russia, lol.
 
vsdoc said:
My thing is simple

My blood

My faith

My soil

Caucus Muslims are great fighters. MMA and on the battlefield.

Cheers, Doc
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Your "thing" sounds like a WhatsApp status update🤣🤣


These guys are actual practitioners of said thing, maybe the parsis were once like this, Iranians are historically fantastic wrestlers and value wrestling as an old tradition.
 
Developereo said:
I am saying Putin is doing what is best for Putin, maybe for Russia.

He may be a useful ally to Muslims in some ways but I would be cautious. Many rich Russian oligarchs and friends of Putin are Jewish Zionists, so I would always keep one eye open. I don't think there are too many Christian Zionists in Russia, lol.
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Ofcourse he is doing what's best for Russia, surely that doesn't need to be said, and to going from 20 years ago to here is remarkable, I think there is a meeting of values here,that's all I infer.


Btw, Are they still his friends? I heard not so much now
 
Developereo said:
It's always good to stay friends with rich people :)
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With the benefit of time, his early concessions of russian resources and then subsequent reclaiming earned him enemies.

Then the Ukraine war lost pretty much all support

That's my understanding, sure there are connections and lines of communication, whose getting worked up over that
 
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I mean it's the said thing to do for a leader with the biggest minority they have.
 
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