United States elections 2024: Donald Trump Wins

[F-22Raptor]

People like it or not here but the Muslim voter who were undecided or outright drop democrats along with GenZ who were sick of Biden administration continuation of Genocide plays a huge role, Democrats has abandoned their Muslim voters, and Israel's Brutal massacre of Gaza/West bank cost Democrats the election, lots of people I was following along with huge following of their also voted for Jill Stein.

Hilarious considering this Trump administration is massively pro Israel, more so than Biden’s.

Gaza is toast

 

[j_hungary]

Donald Trump’s triumph among minority voters is a nightmare for the Left

His surge in support among Latinos, in particular, will shake progressives to their foundations

www.telegraph.co.uk

Donald Trump’s triumph among minority voters is a nightmare for the Left​

Howie Carr: Wake up Dems! Go woke, go broke

America seems to have dodged another bullet.

www.bostonherald.com

GOP had been catching up with minority voter since Reagan (Just look at the voting pattern of FL and TX where majority are minority)

The issue here is not the dem go woke, well, probably indirectly, but the issue here is the Dem don't really focus on anything working class instead on the middle-class and higher income. Most people supported dem are people with 4 years degree, and the rich city living type, and those type just co-incidentally cater to woke agenda.

This loss is the basically the protest of people who were in the middle and felt left out. That's actually very funny, because leftism is supposed to be grassroot, the hard working class, not the social elitism........

I think some where along the line GOP and Dem switches place

 

[Trailer23]

Republicans back in da house...

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[j_hungary]

People like it or not here but the Muslim voter who were undecided or outright drop democrats along with GenZ who were sick of Biden administration continuation of Genocide plays a huge role, Democrats has abandoned their Muslim voters, and Israel's Brutal massacre of Gaza/West bank cost Democrats the election, lots of people I was following along with huge following of their also voted for Jill Stein.

nah, they know voting Trump means more hardline approach for Israel

On the other hand, Jill Stein surprisingly have not made a big splash on any of the state nor nationally, she get 613k vote nationally and 36k in Michigan...Even if Harris have all Stein vote, she is still behind.

 

[F-22Raptor]

I highly doubt people think Trump is going to make life better for those in Gaza. He's more likely to loan the Israelis B-52s.

Biden admin thrown out due to economy, inflation, immigration mayhem, and videos of shoplifting chaos.

It’s clear the Dems have to shift right. The country is tired of being force fed woke propaganda and hordes of illegals crossing the border.

 

[Fatman17]

In Opinion

“American voters have made the choice to return Donald Trump to the White House, setting the nation on a precarious course that no one can fully foresee,” the New York Times editorial board writes. https://nyti.ms/3YRXkJy

Follow New York Times Opinion on WhatsApp for more: https://nyti.ms/430BTpU

 

[Dalit]

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Unpredictability is about to make a comebackpublished at 12:57​

12:57​

Frank Gardner
Security correspondent

Donald Trump likes to say that he ends wars, but he is about to inherit two major conflicts that were not there when he was last in office: Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine and Israel’s multi-front war in the Middle East.

Then there's North Korea, with its accelerated nuclear and ballistic missile programmes, and the looming possibility of a Chinese blockade of America’s ally, Taiwan.

How Trump 2.0 will deal with these problems is hard to predict, especially without the steadying hand of the cautious, highly experienced generals he had at his side during his previous presidency.

Strangely, that very unpredictability can sometimes be an advantage - it keeps your adversaries guessing.

Will it propel Putin towards a deal over Ukraine? Will it steer a wayward Kim Jong-Un back to the negotiating table? Will it deter Beijing from trying to take over Taiwan? Will it force Iran to rein in its militias to prevent a US-backed Israeli strike on its nuclear facilities?

Unpredictability, the byword of the last Trump presidency, is about to make a comeback.

Donald Trump wins US election in historic comeback

In a decisive victory, Trump wins a series of swing states, while his Republican Party also gains control of the Senate.

www.bbc.com

They are getting nervous.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Redirect Notice

 

[Dalit]

Good for Israel, Bad for Palestinians, Bad for some of subcontinent countries. Mostly bad for Europe but Trump was right when he asked the Europeans to raise their defence budget. Not really good for Russia, unpredictable what will happen to Ukranians. Mostly neutral for SE Asians and Australia.

For many of us Pakistanis, this is hopefully good news. We want the Pakistani generals to be strapped in a straitjacket. Hopefully, Trump can deliver on this front.

 

[FuturePAF]

GOP had been catching up with minority voter since Reagan (Just look at the voting pattern of FL and TX where majority are minority)

The issue here is not the dem go woke, well, probably indirectly, but the issue here is the Dem don't really focus on anything working class instead on the middle-class and higher income. Most people supported dem are people with 4 years degree, and the rich city living type, and those type just co-incidentally cater to woke agenda.

This loss is the basically the protest of people who were in the middle and felt left out. That's actually very funny, because leftism is supposed to be grassroot, the hard working class, not the social elitism........

I think some where along the line GOP and Dem switches place

The Dems alienated men , especially young men, and Trump went on podcasts and did all kinds of things to attract them over. Trump also used the simple metric; are you better off now compared to 4 years ago.

 

[j_hungary]

Redirect Notice

lol, that was the utmost stupidest idea ever.

Bear in mind Alien Enemies Act 1798 applies to both legal and illegal alien, which mean if he invoke that, he not just able to round up illegal alien but also legal immigrant.

I don't see how Congress will agree to invoke this act. This would be political suicide to whoever pass that bill in Congress, both house.

 

[guangdongt]

1. After Trump takes office, China US relations will soon enter a stormy stage, which is determined by two factors. First, before the general election of Sichuan, he said that he would impose tariffs of 60% to 100% or even higher on Chinese products, which he would certainly honor. This would lead to a sharp decline in China's exports to the United States, which would be the biggest challenge that China's economy will face immediately; Second, although Trump has no anti China ideology gene, his team, many of whom will serve as senior cabinet officials and important advisers, is very anti China, and even regards containment of China and tough confrontation with China as his lifelong ambition, so they must have provocative moves against China.
2. As for the trade policy towards China, Trump's favorite is tariffs, and the Biden government's main means is sanctions. Trump should retain the previous sanctions measures, but will not make special efforts in this regard, because Trump relatively considers the interests of large commercial companies in the United States, and sanctions are not in line with the interests of American enterprises.
3. Trump will come into view in three scenarios: first, the "price" of Sino US bargaining. For example, if Trump wants China to make concessions in some aspects, it will threaten to strengthen relations with Taiwan, or sacrifice Taiwan as a bargaining chip; Thirdly, Taiwan will also be required to transfer more semiconductor production capacity to the United States mainland.
4. With regard to the security framework prepared by the United States around China, such as the U.S. Japan South Korea cooperation, QUAD, etc., Trump will certainly not give up at once, but will ask its allies to bear more costs. If Trump government is required to spend a lot of money to maintain these, he is not necessarily willing to do so. It depends on whether these Asia Pacific countries will increase their investment and manpower.
5. Trump is definitely not a multilateralism under any circumstances, so he will not unite Europe, and he must ask Europe to financially support the United States, but he also has no ability to break with Europe, because his own team also has the traditional "institutionalists" who maintain the unity of the Western camp. In any case, this leaves room for China and Europe to enter appropriately. Of course, it is not ruled out that some European governments will adjust their posture to cater to Trump's government out of fear (this happened in the first term of Trump), but to a limited extent.
Regarding China's response to the inevitable decoupling of the US market in terms of economy, China must accelerate its internal circulation through fiscal stimulus plans and rely more on domestic and non US foreign markets. In terms of diplomacy, China has learned from the training of "bottom line thinking" since the first Trump administration that no matter who is in power, the U.S. policy of strengthening and containing China has taken shape and can not be changed. The only difference is that the style, steps and priorities are different. Therefore, China's policy towards the United States is based on this understanding, so there will be no swing.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

For many of us Pakistanis, this is hopefully good news. We want the Pakistani generals to be strapped in a straitjacket. Hopefully, Trump can deliver on this front.

Trump probably won't be too much bothered with the affairs here. He's more of a domestic guy. You got to see who will be replacing Donald Lu. That's the guy you gotta worry about. I don't think either Biden or Harris was directly responsible for IK downfall. But the guy who planned all these were someone else.

 

[guangdongt]

If you are a senior knowledge and technical talent in China, whether studying or working abroad, it is best not to choose the United States. The voting result of this country chooses Trump, which represents a further rightward shift, especially for women. The conservative force will increase, let alone Chinese men.

 

[j_hungary]

The Dems alienated men , especially young men, and Trump went on podcasts and did all kinds of things to attract them over. Trump also used the simple metric; are you better off now compared to 4 years ago.

I said that in this thread (or the other one, I forgot) before the vote start on Nov 5.

If Trump win, that mean he galvanised the mobilisation of young men in America.

It's election days today folks (As I type this, it's 9 am in Pilly, my home town), have you casted your ballot yet? I did mine a couple of weeks ago when the overseas absentee ballots were opened.

No matter what happened today, there WILL BE a new administration in White House in 2025, it would be either Kamala Harris or Donald Trump

The election will be hanging on the 7 swing states, PA, MI, WI, NC, GA, AZ and NV.

Let me lay out abit about my view on path to victory and path to defeat

If Harris had won today, that's mostly because of the young women in American (24-40) those who most affected by the Roe v Wade decision and especially those first time voter, or women that had not voted before.

It also meant America would like integrity in government, an administration that want progress

If Trump had won today, that mostly because of the young, white male and the conservative that come out to vote. That means the American public had spoken against woke agenda, and border issue.

If Harris had lost today, the contributing factor for me is that people don't buy her policy, simply because she don't have enough time to get them out, considering she only had 3 months to campaign.

If Trump had lost today, the contributing factor is, well Trump, increasingly odd behavior (he was literally giving a BJ on a mic yesterday at the last rally) and also people vote down trump because of his personality, and his integrity.

No matter what the result is after today, I sincerely hope both side would accept the result, not just when you had won, but even if you are defeated, but that, more than likely is just a pipe dream, good luck every American on this forum.

Again, as I said, somewhere down the line, GOP and Dem switches places, and now enough of these young men felt let down by the democrats party, and they vote against them. The issue here is not the young men, the issue here is Dem can't get the women to compensate with the lost of young male base.

As for whether or not you are better off 4 years ago, that should not have been the metric, the metric should focus on the next part, do you think it's better with me in the next 4 years.

To be honest, unless Trump is hiding something, I don't see that happen, I see house price is going to shoot up, and if he really go around enacting tariff, then we will see all imports product shoot up as well, and that would be alot, if you look at your local supermarket, how many products are made in America? And you can't get those manufacture base back in just 4 years.