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Turkish Armed Forces artillery units are hitting PKK targets in the village of Zor Magar in the Aynel Arab countryside.
 
The biggest danger is the PKK project, its the one element that the USA, Russia, Isreal, EU will all support. Assad and his iranian backers were morons to think that supporting the pkk against Turkiye was a good thing, in reality it allowed a massive cancer to grow that will be major danger to everyone long term. Not because of the PKK themselves but because it will be a region where the invader will operate freely from.
 
There need to be negotiations, its the only way this doesn't get ugly.

Iranian foreign minister, or whoever is actually incharge needs to hold a meeting with Turkish representatives, and Iran also needs to hold talks directly with HTS representatives.

Assad is irrelevant here. This guy would sell his own mother to save himself. He is literally talking to the Israelis/UAE for support to save himself, Idk why all these pro Iran guys are so attached to him, he will not die with the ship, he will try to cut a deal.
 
GoatsMilk said:
The biggest danger is the PKK project, its the one element that the USA, Russia, Isreal, EU will all support. Assad and his iranian backers were morons to think that supporting the pkk against Turkiye was a good thing, in reality it allowed a massive cancer to grow that will be major danger to everyone long term. Not because of the PKK themselves but because it will be a region where the invader will operate freely from.
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Honestly thats my biggest worry, the PKK under the support of the US and Israel. The PKK really is the trojan horse here. They will use the PKK just like they used the Banu Hashim tribesmen(T. E. Lawrence/Lawrence of Arabia) and the Saudis(Percy Cox) against the Ottomans, of course they will dump them in the end after their use is over, but they will use them for their own agenda in the region.
 
hyperman said:
There need to be negotiations, its the only way this doesn't get ugly.

Iranian foreign minister, or whoever is actually incharge needs to hold a meeting with Turkish representatives, and Iran also needs to hold talks directly with HTS representatives.

Assad is irrelevant here. This guy would sell his own mother to save himself. He is literally talking to the Israelis/UAE for support to save himself, Idk why all these pro Iran guys are so attached to him, he will not die with the ship, he will try to cut a deal.
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These people are not reasonable actors and their religious/cultish indoctrination doesn't allow them to operate with clarity.

They rather let Syria destroy itself as long as it means Turkiye gets harmed, then cut a deal with Turkiye and preserve the syrian state.
 
GoatsMilk said:
These people are not reasonable actors and their religious/cultish indoctrination doesn't allow them to operate with clarity.

They rather let Syria destroy itself as long as it means Turkiye gets harmed, then cut a deal with Turkiye and preserve the syrian state.
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Iranians or Assadists? lol
 
hyperman said:
Iranians or Assadists? lol
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I would say both, though assad is the kind of guy who will even turn round and cut a deal with isreal if his throne is on the line. I've already started to see western media promoting the idea that Assad needs to stay, which adds to the speculations he's in talks with them and america.

If he cuts a deal, expect all western media to immediately promote the idea of assad being a good guy again, or they will frame it that he's the lessor of the two evils. Better him then evil isis type jihadists.

whatever happens Turkiye will be demonised, because what the americans, europeans, russians, iranians, gulf states dont want to see is a Turkiye expanding, that brings them bitter feelings of Ottoman days when the Muslims used to slap them all about and they couldnt set one inch into the region.

also if assad cuts a deal with the americans it will be on the condition of autonomy, independence for the pkk. If that happens he will have opened the gates of hell for the foreseeable future of the region. Because the PKK region will be turned into a complete and total western base. It will make Isreal seem like childs play in comparison.
 
GoatsMilk said:
I would say both, though assad is the kind of guy who will even turn round and cut a deal with isreal if his throne is on the line. I've already started to see western media promoting the idea that Assad needs to stay, which adds to the speculations he's in talks with them and america.

If he cuts a deal, expect all western media to immediately promote the idea of assad being a good guy again, or they will frame it that he's the lessor of the two evils. Better him then evil isis type jihadists.

whatever happens Turkiye will be demonised, because what the americans, europeans, russians, iranians, gulf states dont want to see is a Turkiye expanding, that brings them bitter feelings of Ottoman days when the Muslims used to slap them all about and they couldnt set one inch into the region.
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West considers Assad as a lesser evil .
 
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UKBengali said:
RuAF has dozens of aircraft in Syria, which inclues a mix of Su-30SM, SU-35, SU-24 and SU-34.

Those SU-34 can carry around 12-14 tons of ordnance and are capable of precision strike using LGBs. They will be devastating to the rebels as even 3-4 can devastate a whole brigade if caught out in the open.
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are you the clown ultron?
 
hyperman said:
There need to be negotiations, its the only way this doesn't get ugly.

Iranian foreign minister, or whoever is actually incharge needs to hold a meeting with Turkish representatives, and Iran also needs to hold talks directly with HTS representatives.

Assad is irrelevant here. This guy would sell his own mother to save himself. He is literally talking to the Israelis/UAE for support to save himself, Idk why all these pro Iran guys are so attached to him, he will not die with the ship, he will try to cut a deal.
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Iran foreigner minister was yesterday in Turkey and was asking for Astana agreement, Hakan Fidan told him that is history. Ther is 1 way and that is assad need to come talk and not foreigner powers. What never will be happen, assad will end with a barrel of a gun in his exit like qaddafi.
 
GoatsMilk said:
I would say both, though assad is the kind of guy who will even turn round and cut a deal with isreal if his throne is on the line. I've already started to see western media promoting the idea that Assad needs to stay, which adds to the speculations he's in talks with them and america.

If he cuts a deal, expect all western media to immediately promote the idea of assad being a good guy again, or they will frame it that he's the lessor of the two evils. Better him then evil isis type jihadists.

whatever happens Turkiye will be demonised, because what the americans, europeans, russians, iranians, gulf states dont want to see is a Turkiye expanding, that brings them bitter feelings of Ottoman days when the Muslims used to slap them all about and they couldnt set one inch into the region.

also if assad cuts a deal with the americans it will be on the condition of autonomy, independence for the pkk. If that happens he will have opened the gates of hell for the foreseeable future of the region. Because the PKK region will be turned into a complete and total western base. It will make Isreal seem like childs play in comparison.
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That Manbij and Ayn Al Arab operation needs to start soon.
 
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