Snake
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Would you like some tea? Is your name Tejas by any chance? I would understand why that would make you angy.
Russia, Iran, And India Are Creating A Third Pole Of Influence In International Relations
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Would you like some tea? Is your name Tejas by any chance? I would understand why that would make you angy.
Guru Dutt
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Its all about Money and demographics/potential markets for the finished goods .... be it victorian times = when UK was the dominent world power@Guru Dutt
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the Topic of this thread discuss the issues like "the New Cold War", "a third pole", "a new Non-Aligned Movement (“Neo-NAM”)
as per topic of this thread, how you people see the current NAM members on Indian government website, as below?
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=> At present, the NAM Movement has 120 Member States, 17 Observer Countries and 10 Observer organizations.
https://www.mea.gov.in/images/pdf/Members-and-other-participants.pdf
How many countries are members of the Non-Aligned Movement?
Answer (1 of 2): The Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) is a forum of 120 developing world states that are not formally aligned with or against any major power bloc. After the United Nations, it is the largest grouping of states worldwide. Non-belligerent, in a war. Neutrality (international relations), ...www.quora.com
Im given information that India had to take a side and India is set to be with Iran, with maintaining Russia also. US-west would now face as bad time as during Cold War, as per topic of this thread.
Price of India was much higher than going against Russia, while India has confirmed that it will not compromise its strategic relation with Iran and Russia.
India has taken side with Iran
here, how you people measure my post#25? here is the Veto history of Moscow, in favour of Delhi
What are some examples of where the USSR used a veto for India?
Answer (1 of 3): During the Cold War, Moscow bailed New Delhi out of tricky situations by vetoing UN resolutions, but an increasingly powerful India no longer needs that backup. Russia’s 100th veto in the United Nations Security Council was in support of India’s position on Kashmir. The veto of ...
or the times since dawn of 20th centuary till end of 2nd world war when US & USSR emerged as dominent powers
or the cold war which went between power struggle of USA/NATO Vs USSR & ALLIES
or post cold war era where USA was dominet world power in UNI polar world
or what we call now the era of multi polar world ....
all geopolitics revolves around Money and trade and commerce and that power that has means to control them
coming back to NAM it was in time when uber socialist JL Nehru and some others like him felt the need to keep away from both US & USSR cmps during hight of COLD WAR
while in this NEW COLD WAR ERA between USA & NATO Vs CHINA & RUSSIA and the Third Block of India with so called GLOBAL SOUTH or the confideracy of all post colonial but devloping and highly populated but poor nations from South America , Africa &Asia/Oceana
why will USA or China or the Europe would want India to lead or plead the case of all these potential markets in UNSC or WTO or WB/IMF or ICJ ????
its simple class struglle of "have nots" trying to get what they desrve while so called "haves" trying to deviate there progress
Joe Shearer
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Not in the jurisdiction of any of the three Indian moderators.
Report has been filed.
This member has been warned repeatedly. Action can be taken against him only when he posts on India-jurisdiction threads, or an administrator-moderator acts on a report against him.
Extremely frustrating.
kmc_chacko
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Here, I would share information that we have similar news about India-Pakistan trade also. Ie, India and Pakistan are also doing far more trade than being advertised no......
We would have these data advertised but it's mainly US-West who manipulate numbers.....
>angry
>at a literal pakistani
lol
i'll have some east pakistani tea bruv thanks for offering
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Joe Shearer
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No counter-insults, please.
Snake
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here is a small detail of Indian Airforce. it states that India's Top Gun is 'Super Sukhoi' Su30mki
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10 countries with the largest air forces in the world
At the fourth position stands the Indian Air Force (IAF) with an impressive number of over 2,296 aircraft. This consists of approximately 606 fighter jets, including the famous Sukhoi Su-30 MKI, along with persistent efforts being put into the advancement process, such as the induction of the HAL Tejas. The Indian Air Force’s powerful helicopter fleet moreover strengthens its functional capabilities in the region.
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In a world where aviation power is of immense importance to maintaining national security and global influence, the size and capability of a nation’s air force act as the two significant pillars of its military strategy. From versatile helicopters to high-tech fighter jets, the world’s largest...
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
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how you people would see news of my last post#56?
Rafale couldn't replace 'Super Sukhoi' Su30mki as 'Top Gun'. Super Sukhoi's remained the Top Gun for nuclear operation type things, if needed
Guru Dutt
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if your enemy redicules and mocks a perticular weapon or quality of yours then make sure he is petrified by it .......and they have no answer either to LCA or the Su30 series of India hence they mock them the mosthow you people would see news of my last post#56?
Rafale couldn't replace 'Super Sukhoi' Su30mki as 'Top Gun'. Super Sukhoi's remained the Top Gun for nuclear operation type things, if needed
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Russia, Iran, And India Are Creating A Third Pole Of Influence In International Relations
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The success of this project will help the world make progress in moving past the present bi-multipolar intermediary phase of the global systemic transition and correspondingly create more opportunities for other countries to strengthen their strategic autonomy in the New Cold War.
Russian Transportation Minister Valery Savelyev just recognized the vital role that Iran plays for his country’s logistics nowadays through the North-South Transport Corridor (NSTC). According to him, the US-led West’s unprecedented sanctions that were imposed in response to Russia’s ongoing special military operation in Ukraine “have practically broken all the logistics in our country. And we are forced to look for new logistics corridors.” The primary one that his country is prioritizing is the NSTC through Iran, pointing out that three Caspian Sea ports already serve as trade conduits with the Islamic Republic while also acknowledging that there’s still a lot of work to be done on overland connectivity.
It was already predicted shortly after the onset of Russia’s special operation that Iran would become so much more important to Russia. This is because the NSTC functions as a trans-civilizational integration corridor connecting Russia’s historically Christian civilization, Iran’s Islamic one, and India’s Hindu civilization, not to mention the others such as those in Africa and Southeast Asia that can indirectly be linked to Russia via that route. It’s an irreplaceable valve from the US-led West’s economic and financial pressure that’s created such logistical difficulties for Russia in recent months, especially since it connects to India, which has defied Western pressure by continuing to practice its policy of principled neutrality.
Without Iran’s leading participation in the NSTC, Russia would be cut off from its indispensable Indian partners whose decisive intervention preemptively averted its potentially disproportionate dependence on China in the future. This outcome in turn helped the world make progress in moving past the present bi-multipolar intermediary phase of the global systemic transition to multipolarity that’s seen International Relations largely shaped by the competition between the American and Chinese superpowers. It’s now becoming increasingly possible to speak of a third pole of influence represented by the grand strategic convergence between Russia, Iran, and India.
It’s not officially acknowledged by their diplomats in order to avoid the American and/or Chinese superpowers misunderstanding their civilization-states’ intentions, but all three are informally trying to assemble a new Non-Aligned Movement (“Neo-NAM”). They hope to serve as equal centers of gravity within the third pole of influence that they hope to create for moving International Relations past its present bi-multipolar intermediary phase and towards a system of “tripolarity” that they expect to inevitably facilitate the emergence of complex multipolarity. The purpose behind doing so is to maximize their respective strategic autonomy within the New Cold War vis a vis the two superpowers.
The international implications of their plan succeeding would literally be game-changing, which explains why efforts are actively underway to stop them. These have taken the form of the Associated Press leading the US-led Western Mainstream Media’s (MSM) infowar campaign against the Russian-Iranian Strategic Partnership while other outlets are waging a complementary one against the Russian-Indian Strategic Partnership. Both have failed since their leaderships are inspired by their shared multipolar conservative-sovereigntist (MCS) worldview to stay the course despite considerable pressure after their strategists presumably assured them that it’ll all be worth it in the end as long as they remain patient.
This stands in contrast to their Pakistani neighbor, which compellingly appears to be in the process of recalibrating its grand strategy and associated envisioned role in the global systemic transition following its scandalous change in government. The mixed signals that its new authorities have sent towards Russia in parallel with their enthusiastic outreach towards the US very strongly suggest that the MCS worldview previously embraced by former Prime Minister Khan is being gradually replaced to an uncertain extent by the Western-friendly unipolar liberal-globalist (ULG) one. This complicates multipolar processes in South Asia and risks isolating Pakistan from them in the worst-case scenario.
Nevertheless, Pakistan doesn’t have any intention of interfering with the NSTC even if it were to enter into a full-fledged and extremely rapid rapprochement with the US. This observation means that the grand strategic convergence between Russia, Iran, and India will continue, with those last two becoming even more important to Moscow than ever as valves from Western pressure and reliable alternatives to preemptively avert any potentially disproportionate dependence on China. Pakistan was supposed to play a complementary role in Russia’s Greater Eurasian Partnership (GEP) by also serving to balance Moscow’s growing reliance on Tehran and New Delhi, but this appears unlikely in light of recent events.
With relations practically frozen on the energy front that was envisioned as laying the basis of their hoped-for strategic partnership, there’s little chance that Russia will ever consider Pakistan to be more important to its “Ummah Pivot” than Iran is quickly becoming unless these issues are urgently resolved. In all likelihood, they probably won’t be, and this dismal prediction is due to the educated conjecture that Pakistan’s new authorities consider slowing the pace of their rapprochement with Russia to be an “acceptable unilateral concession” in exchange for continuing talks on improving ties with the US, which is their new foreign policy priority.
Even though baby steps were recently seen in restoring their relations, new Foreign Minister Bhutto’s interview with the Associated Press during his inaugural trip to America to attend a UN event and meet one-on-one with Blinken cast doubt upon Islamabad’s interest in resuming energy talks with Russia. According to the outlet, he revealed that “his focus in talks with Blinken was on increasing trade, particularly in agriculture, information technology and energy.” This suggests that America is trying to “poach” Russia’s reported deal with Pakistan for providing it with food and fuel at a 30% discount, perhaps even offering less of a discount – if any at all – as a “necessary cost” for improving ties.
The predictable outcome of Pakistan deciding not to resume energy talks with Russia is that Iran and India’s importance for Russian grand strategy will continue growing without being kept in check by the Pakistani balancing factor that Moscow had previously taken for granted. That won’t be a problem unless they politicize their role as valves from Western pressure, which they’re reluctant to do anyhow since that would risk undermining their shared MCS interests in the global systemic transition through the Neo-NAM. Nevertheless, it’s still important to point out that the practical removal of Pakistan’s balancing influence in this paradigm increases Russia’s dependence on Iran and India.
With or without Russian-Pakistani relations becoming strategic like Moscow hoped would happen and consequently helping to balance its envisioned Neo-NAM, there’s little doubt that the axis that Russia is assembling with Iran and India will continue strengthening as these three jointly pursue the creation of a third pole of influence in International Relations. The success of this project will help the world make progress in moving past the present bi-multipolar intermediary phase of the global systemic transition and correspondingly create more opportunities for other countries to strengthen their strategic autonomy in the New Cold War.
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good day. how would you people see Topic of this thread?
I heard the Third Pole, Delhi-Moscow-Tehran, has impressed countries like China. Delhi has shown much depth to US-west. a news as below, NAM movement has now been forwarded. a considerable time has passed also, no return path
i find, US-west is measured to having shot bullet in their own ass by going against India.... India will test US-west in future
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AZERBAIJAN — THE NON-ALIGNED MOVEMENT
The Non-Aligned Movement (NAM), once established by a number of states during the Cold War to prevent confrontation between the two political-military Poles, has now become one of the important multilateral mechanisms involved in the regulation of international relations. One of the main principles of the establishment and functioning of the NAM, the purpose of which is to promote peace, security and development in the world on the basis of respect for international law, is to serve as a forum for cooperation among its...
AZERBAIJAN — THE NON-ALIGNED MOVEMENT
The Non-Aligned Movement (NAM), once established by a number of states during the Cold War to prevent confrontation between the two political-military Poles, has now become one of the important multilateral mechanisms involved in the regulation of international relations. One of the main principles of the establishment and functioning of the NAM, the purpose of which is to promote peace, security and development in the world on the basis of respect for international law, is to serve as a forum for cooperation among its...
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Joe Shearer
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I am beginning to see the point of the NCB.i find, US-west is measured to having shot bullet in their own ass by going against India.... India will test US-west in future
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here, we find combined power of Delhi+Moscow+Tehran increased consistently since 1990 and it would go further from here.
since Cold War time its seen that Delhi+Moscow+Tehran are "self-sufficient" with what they are, they dont have to trade with US-NATO
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