Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[WAZA]

Pakistan sheltered the Taliban

Pakistan has given these Afghan haramis decades of support one way or the other, what have they ever done for Pakistan

These people behave like animals, even with the U.S gone these goat fcukers can't stop spreading fassad, it's ridiculous

We have come to a point where the we have to destroy the TTP and for security kick out every last Afghan out of Pakistan, if Afghanistan is providing areas for terrorists to attack Pakistan then it's a act of war

TTP doesn't need afghan taliban. They were already established group way before taliban takeover of Afghanistan.

What Pakistan govt want is afghan taliban to start attacking TTP which is impossible. TTP was basically formed because of Pakistan govt imprisoning the afghan taliban who found shelter in Pakistan during earlier years of america invasion of Afghanistan. America used Pakistan govt against Pakistan pashtun and then left them deal with the consequences later

Afghan talib went to war with NATO because of one arab and you think they'll betray the pashtun brethren because of Pakistan secular govt?

 

[hussain0216]

TTP doesn't need afghan taliban. They were already established group way before taliban takeover of Afghanistan.

What Pakistan govt want is afghan taliban to start attacking TTP which is impossible. TTP was basically formed because of Pakistan govt imprisoning the afghan taliban who found shelter in Pakistan during earlier years of america invasion of Afghanistan. America used Pakistan govt against Pakistan pashtun and then left them deal with the consequences later

Afghan talib went to war with NATO because of one arab and you think they'll betray the pashtun brethren because of Pakistan secular govt?

Pakistan has laws, you can't randomly use Pakistani territory or abuse Pakistani sovereignty without response or consequence

Who can't just "find shelter" in Pakistan, you either follow the laws, or fcuk off

Pakistan has been VERY VERY EASY on the Afghans, we accepted millions of the namak harams Into the country AFTER THEY invited the USSR in, this was even after decades of Afghan fassad through the 50s, 60s 70s

We should never have done it..

The USA, NATO etc lost because of Pakistan, Taliban on its own would have failed years ago

Pakistan has to take on India which is vital for the Muslim world,,, yet we have these haramis afghans continue to spread fassad and violence behind us and you expect Pakistan not to respond to attacks on Pakistani border or police or towns

That's ridiculous

If Afghanistan wants support, or trade or open borders

Then they need to behave and destroy or move the TTP,
At a basic level we need to get every harami Afghan out of Pakistan, these people are a SECURITY RISK and cannot be trusted

We have to move forward and we can't be dealing with Afghan nonsense forever

 

[Hussain]

I cannot understand Taliban.

Afghanistan is now in the hands of the Taliban and they should spend all their energy to solve the problems of Afghanistan, which is the poorest country in Asia and has the worst infrastructure. But since they took over the government, They have clashed with all the neighbors.

It is pretty obvious, that progress, and stabilization of their homeland is not a priority.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Pakistan has laws, you can't randomly use Pakistani territory or abuse Pakistani sovereignty without response or consequence

Who can't just "find shelter" in Pakistan, you either follow the laws, or fcuk off

Pakistan has been VERY VERY EASY on the Afghans, we accepted millions of the namak harams Into the country AFTER THEY invited the USSR in, this was even after decades of Afghan fassad through the 50s, 60s 70s

We should never have done it..

The USA, NATO etc lost because of Pakistan, Taliban on its own would have failed years ago

Pakistan has to take on India which is vital for the Muslim world,,, yet we have these haramis afghans continue to spread fassad and violence behind us and you expect Pakistan not to respond to attacks on Pakistani border or police or towns

That's ridiculous

If Afghanistan wants support, or trade or open borders

Then they need to behave and destroy or move the TTP,
At a basic level we need to get every harami Afghan out of Pakistan, these people are a SECURITY RISK and cannot be trusted

We have to move forward and we can't be dealing with Afghan nonsense forever

You have no idea what you're talking about...
Pakistan, the state, holds a huge trust deficit with almost every state in the world. Their word means nothing... they have double often triple crossed friend and foe alike.
If anything, the state still has people who believe it can be salvaged... well, one hopes!

 

[Hussain]

This is literally the stupidest argument I've read all day.

I've tried being patient with you, but not anymore.

IT IS LITERALLY INTERNATIONAL LAW, IT ABSOLUTELY APPLIES.

READ THE LAWS ON HOW TREATIES ARE GOVERNED AND PASSED DOWN!

UNTC

This is the United Nations Treaty Collection homepage. Here you will find related information and links.

treaties.un.org

It's like I'm arguing with a child that doesn't understand basic logic.

The rest of your comment isn't even worth talking about, when you don't even know how treaties and successor states even work!

Next time you reply, actually know what the **** you're talking about, because you're wasting mine and everyone else's time by being confidently wrong about every single fucking thing you're written, because you're too stubborn to admit you're stating your own feelings as fact, and that everything I've written can easily be googled to prove me right!

He is a shameless Afghani, flying a Pakistani Flag, what do you expect?

 

[hussain0216]

You have no idea what you're talking about...
Pakistan, the state, holds a huge trust deficit with almost every state in the world. Their word means nothing... they have double often triple crossed friend and foe alike.
If anything, the state still has people who believe it can be salvaged... well, one hopes!

Pakistans RESPONSIBILITY is it's OWN people and strategic interests

That's it, the end, the final

It is NOT our responsibility to look after millions of namak haram Afghans, who bring insecurity

As you say Pakistans major enemy is the indians, so we have to prepare for that enemy and our force preparation is for India

So why the hell would we continue to ignore Afghan terrorism, attacks upon our border and people

This has been ongoing now for 80 years, why the hell would we ignore it and not stamp out our Afghan enemies carry out targeted attacks against them?

What exactly do you think we should do?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Pakistans RESPONSIBILITY is it's OWN people and strategic interests

That's it, the end, the final

It is NOT our responsibility to look after millions of namak haram Afghans, who bring insecurity

As you say Pakistans major enemy is the indians, so we have to prepare for that enemy and our force preparation is for India

So why the hell would we continue to ignore Afghan terrorism, attacks upon our border and people

This has been ongoing now for 80 years, why the hell would we ignore it and not stamp out our Afghan enemies carry out targeted attacks against them?

What exactly do you think we should do?

See you don't even realize how dystopian your views are to fellow countrymen. You're more Pakistani than the rest... more patriotic than the rest...
For that you must work on a feud... carve a niche for the fellow Afghan/Pashtun native to Pakistan or else... it is your definition vs. Theirs.

Sowing the seeds of discord that have only one ominous result. But you don't see that...
Either you'll learn, or you'll bang You're head.
Either you'll bend or you'll break.

 

[Hussain]

Taliban calls India a ‘significant regional partner’ after officials meet​

9 Jan 2025

Afghanistan warns Iran after criticism of dam project​

January 9, 2025

Taliban has learned from their Hindutva brethren, how to successfully piss off all your relevant neighbors, at the same time. Congratulations.....

 

[PrinceofPersia]

See you don't even realize how dystopian your views are to fellow countrymen. You're more Pakistani than the rest... more patriotic than the rest...
For that you must work on a feud... carve a niche for the fellow Afghan/Pashtun native to Pakistan or else... it is your definition vs. Theirs.

Sowing the seeds of discord that have only one ominous result. But you don't see that...
Either you'll learn, or you'll bang You're head.
Either you'll bend or you'll break.

They will never understand.

 

[hussain0216]

See you don't even realize how dystopian your views are to fellow countrymen. You're more Pakistani than the rest... more patriotic than the rest...
For that you must work on a feud... carve a niche for the fellow Afghan/Pashtun native to Pakistan or else... it is your definition vs. Theirs.

Sowing the seeds of discord that have only one ominous result. But you don't see that...
Either you'll learn, or you'll bang You're head.
Either you'll bend or you'll break.

The feud has been ongoing for 8 decades now, afghans have been attacking us

There is nothing else to say, we MUST defend Pakistan against our enemies

Our direct enemies are the Hindus and the Afghans, even with the defeat of the USA, NATO and India the Afghans can't stop from spreading fassad and deshatgardi

For some reason you have got it into your head that's it's Pakistans responsibility to bend to Afghan demands

The answer is NO, you do not and cannot bend to the demand of your enemy

If they attack us, we must defend our country and fight back

The Afghans want open borders, trade, port access and then they want to support and allow TTP terrorists to attack Pakistan and for Pakistan to do nothing and not complain

That's ridiculous

IT is better to manage the situation with constant low level conflict then bend to the enemies of Pakistan

 

[That_Guy]

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Taliban calls India a ‘significant regional partner’ after officials meet​

9 Jan 2025

Afghanistan warns Iran after criticism of dam project​

January 9, 2025

Taliban has learned from their Hindutva brethren, how to successfully piss off all your relevant neighbors, at the same time. Congratulations.....

The taliban don't realize that they can easily be overthrown, and it wouldn't even need to involve an invasion. All Pakistan has to do is meet surrounding neighbors and just blockade Afghanistan. The taliban would be overthrown within a month. With how much the taliban has pissed everyone off, relevant nations such as Iran, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and China wouldn't be too hard to convince.

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On a side note. It's ironic, isn't it? Manmohan Singh was the single biggest reason why India almost dominated the region, and the moronic Hindutva called him a weak leader.

They bring their own strongman leader into power, and he manages to **** up every single relationship India has with its neighbors.

Besides the puppet regime in Bhutan, India now has an unfriendly to outright hostile relationship with every single one of its neighbors. Modi managed to accomplish what the ISI has failed to do since the very beginning, politically isolated India regionally.

It's not even that South Asian nations like Pakistan, in fact I'd wager they probably don't think of Pakistan as being all that great. It seems that India's own incompetence has pushed everyone to take a more pragmatic approach, and start talking to Pakistan again, you know, just in case.

It's almost as if far right political theory is retarded and doesn't work

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

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The taliban don't realize that they can easily be overthrown, and it wouldn't even need to involve an invasion. All Pakistan has to do is meet surrounding neighbors and just blockade Afghanistan. The taliban would be overthrown within a month. With how much the taliban has pissed everyone off, relevant nations such as Iran, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and China wouldn't be too hard to convince.

Easier said than done!
In fact i replied merely for the sake of reflection. I can go in detail on each one of your points but that would be a waste as if you knew... the above wouldn't have been said in its current iteration.

==

On a side note. It's ironic, isn't it? Manmohan Singh was the single biggest reason why India almost dominated the region, and the moronic Hindutva called him a weak leader.

They bring their own strongman leader into power, and he manages to **** up every single relationship India has with its neighbors.

Besides the puppet regime in Bhutan, India now has an unfriendly to outright hostile relationship with every single one of its neighbors. Modi managed to accomplish what the ISI has failed to do since the very beginning, politically isolated India regionally.

It's not even that South Asian nations like Pakistan, in fact I'd wager they probably don't think of Pakistan as being all that great. It seems that India's own incompetence has pushed everyone to take a more pragmatic approach, and start talking to Pakistan again, you know, just in case.

Modi's frame of reference is Chanakya. Dive into his rendering, quite a contrast to Sun Tzu.

 

[ghazi52]

Taliban say India is a ‘significant regional partner’ after meeting​

Reuters
January 9, 2025

India’s Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri meeting acting Taliban Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi in Dubai on Wednesday. — X/@HafizZiaAhmad
The Afghan Taliban’s foreign office said they saw India as a “significant regional and economic partner” after meeting with its most senior foreign ministry official, the highest level talks with Delhi since their takeover of Afghanistan in 2021.

India’s Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri met acting Taliban Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi in Dubai on Wednesday.

Afghanistan’s foreign ministry said in a statement that they had discussed expanding relations with Afghanistan and boosting trade through the Chabahar Port in Iran, which India has been developing for goods to bypass the ports of Karachi and Gwadar in its rival Pakistan.

“In line with Afghanistan’s balanced and economy-focused foreign policy, the Islamic Emirate aims to strengthen political and economic ties with India as a significant regional and economic partner,” the statement from Afghanistan’s foreign ministry said late on Wednesday.

 

[That_Guy]

Easier said than done!
In fact i replied merely for the sake of reflection. I can go in detail on each one of your points but that would be a waste as if you knew... the above wouldn't have been said in its current iteration.

Why bother replying? In fact, you KNOW we're gonna butt heads, so why are you replying with a non-answer.

Modi's frame of reference is Chanakya. Dive into his rendering, quite a contrast to Sun Tzu.

Having read Sun Tzu (it's just a bunch of his quotes being narrated by a guy who followed him, quite a boring read), and knowing nothing about Chanakya, I have no idea what you're mean.

As such, I'll just agree with you and move on. I'd rather not debate a point i have no clue on.

 

[ghazi52]

India’s foreign ministry said after the Dubai meeting that India was considering engaging in development projects in Afghanistan and looking to boost trade ties.

No foreign government, including India, officially recognises the Taliban administration.

However, India is one of several countries with a small mission in Kabul to facilitate trade, aid and medical support and has sent humanitarian aid to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Regional players including China and Russia have signalled they are willing to boost trade and investment in Afghanistan.

The Delhi meeting could ruffle Pakistan, which borders both countries and has fought three wars in the past against India.

Pakistan and Afghanistan also have a strained relationship, with Pakistan saying that several terrorist attacks that have occurred in its country have been launched from Afghan soil — a charge the Afghan Taliban denies.

Earlier this week India’s foreign office told journalists they condemned the anti-terrorist airstrikes conducted late last year by Pakistan on Afghan soil targeting the UN-designated terror group Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).