Israeli F-35s operated with “impunity” inside Iranian airspace: Lockheed Martin CEO

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The US has crippled Iraqi defenses in war (Operation Iraqi Freedom), and Israel has crippled Syrian defenses in war (Operation Chess). Both Russia and Iran attempted to improve Syrian defenses and defeat Syrian rebels but failed.

Iran and Israel have long been engaged in the so-called “campaign between wars,” in which both have engaged in covert strikes and proxy warfare. After Hamas’s attack on Israel on October 7, 2023, the campaign between wars escalated. The subsequent months saw a series of high-profile assassinations by Israel targeting key figures in the so-called Resistance Axis, Iran’s network of non-state allies and proxies, as well as senior Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) commanders. These actions brought the conflict between Iran and Israel out of the shadows and into open confrontation.

After Israel’s bombing of the Iranian consulate in Damascus last April, Iran’s response marked Iran’s first direct military strike against Israel from its own territory. This was intended to establish a new equation in the conflict—one in which Israeli actions against Iranian interests would be met with Iranian military retaliation. Yet, despite the scale of the operation, Israeli strikes continued in the following months, including strikes against Iranian interests in Syria and the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran. The assassination of Hezbollah’s secretary general Hassan Nasrallah and IRGC brigadier general Abbas Nilforoushan on September 27 dealt a significant blow to Iran’s alliance network, demonstrating that the deterrence sought by Iran had not materialized as planned.
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The orange highlight = Israeli Operation Chess in Syria.

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I have shed some light on these developments independently in relevant threads before (see this, this, this and this).

With limited warning, Tehran launched its second direct attack against Israel on October 1. This marked a stark departure from the April operation in both its execution and scale. Unlike the earlier strike, which employed a mix of ballistic missiles, drones, and cruise missiles, the October attack was conducted exclusively with ballistic missiles, which was likely intended to reduce advance detection and limit the effectiveness of Israel’s defenses.

In a video statement immediately following the attack, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to exact reprisals, stating, “Iran made a big mistake tonight—and it will pay for it.” Although Israel initially considered a stronger response, targeting high-value sites such as nuclear or energy infrastructure, the plan was recalibrated due to U.S. pressure to avoid escalation. Additionally, the U.S. deployment of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) was potentially an incentive for Israel to focus its retaliation primarily on military sites, while adding a layer of defense in anticipation of Iranian retaliation.

Prior to the Israeli attack, Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi launched a diplomatic mission to rally regional support against allowing Israel’s use of neighboring airspace. Araghchi’s outreach included Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iraq, Oman, Jordan, Egypt, and Turkey, including states with traditionally tense relations with Iran, such as Jordan, Egypt, and Bahrain. Though Israel notably avoided Jordanian and Saudi airspace, Iran’s diplomatic outreach ultimately could not prevent an Israeli response.

In its strikes of October 26, Israel claimed to have used over 100 aircraft, including advanced F-15 and F-35 jets. Flying over 2,000 kilometers from Israel, these aircraft allegedly launched air launched ballistic missiles, which are much more challenging than surface-to-surface ballistic missiles for air defenses to intercept.
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Israeli Air Force could refuel its jet fighters mid-air above Syria or Iraq before reaching Iran. F-35 also have internal fuel tanks and its true range might be classified. Therefore, Lockheed Martin's disclosure is realistic and British intelligence has pointed out the same. Israel is unlikely to declassify this operation for public analysis anytime soon but GCC intelligence have also disclosed that Israel has probed Iranian defenses before these strikes.

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Now I have a question for you: Does Iran have an Air Force that could intercept Israeli Air Force over Syria or Iraq?


Dear, I pointed out some technical aspects of the F-35 to you in following post. However, you have emotional claims in every thread and do not seem to learn. I have a realistic take on all themes and my analysis is usually spot on. Here are your facts:

1. Israeli army wiped out in Gaza.
2. Israeli army wiped out at the border of Lebanon.
3. Tel Aviv has fallen and Bibi is captured by Hezbollah.
4. Israel never attacked Iran.
5. Assad setup rules Syria.
6. Houthi sunk American Navy.


Lockheed Martin has often shed light on the performance of its products in military operations. Lockheed Martin has direct feedback from customers because it is crucial for improving its solutions. There is also information sharing among F-35 partners. The British were providing F-35 parts to Israel and British intelligence has pointed out the same.

That is perfectly well stated. Let me add one line item about the Israeli F-35s. They are different from their American counterparts because the Israelis have been allowed unfettered access to improve their features with in-home technology. As you have alluded, they may have an enhanced range with more internal tanks.

The key is your point on the Americans and Israelis pounding the regional countries, rendering them defenseless from the air.
 
That is perfectly well stated. Let me add one line item about the Israeli F-35s. They are different from their American counterparts because the Israelis have been allowed unfettered access to improve their features with in-home technology. As you have alluded, they may have an enhanced range with more internal tanks.

The key is your point on the Americans and Israelis pounding the regional countries, rendering them defenseless from the air.
Same radar with EW capability and AN/ASQ-239 Barracuda EW as F-35A. Israeli system is external which haven't yet been integrated so they still use its radar and Barracuda for their EW. What they really wanted was the ability to use their nukes in the F-35 that was thee issue not the EW. For that source codes had to be changed so that Israel can use nukes without US assistance.

Here's some info on their EW.
-The US initially refused to allow such changes before permitting Israel to integrate its own electronic warfare systems, including sensors and countermeasures. The main computer has a plug-and-play function for add-on systems; proposals include an external jamming pod, and new Israeli air-to-air missiles and guided bombs in the internal weapon bays-
 
Irans confident it intercepted 48 of the 53 aero ballistic missiles launched at it by the IDF.

Now these F-35’s flying over Tehran is a whole new claim.
 
pakistan is a tool of Americans. few of it's people support palestine and the rest are pro zionist and pro Arab
You mistake OUR realistic assessment for being pro-Zionist unfortunately. Pakistan does not have a diplomatic relationship with Israel even though Pakistan can benefit from this option like Azerbaijan. Many Pakistani have spoken for Palestinian rights.

When I saw a video of some Palestinians requesting Pakistani help, I had tears in my eyes. I was the first Pakistani member to mention the need to provide humanitarian aid to Gaza. I was also involved in a heated argument with pro-Israeli Americans in one of their conservative spaces and it led to removal of my posts there. Pakistan has provided humanitarian aid to people in Gaza but Pakistan refuses to fight in the Middle East as it is a counterproductive foreign policy that might lead to Pakistan exposing itself to attacks in exchange. Pakistan refused to be a party in war in Yemen. Pakistan has its own problems to address.

Iran has not learned any lesson from the fate of Iraq and has exposed itself to attacks. Your country should not create too many enemies out there in the larger interest of Iranian citizens. Iranians should also not be hostile to other Muslims in talks and otherwise, we are trying to have a conversation.
 
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Iranian facts PDF edition:

1. Israeli army wiped out in Gaza.
2. Israeli army wiped out at the border of Lebanon.
3. Tel Aviv has fallen and Bibi is captured by Hezbollah.
4. Israel never attacked Iran.
5. Assad setup rules Syria.
6. Houthi sunk American Navy.


You trust an American PsyOps agent? Interesting.
Oh man, be serious. They have a strong army, but they were not able to defeat some militia groups.

They couldn't do anything about Iran and Yemen either.
 
That's a difference though. Legend doesn't write nonsense nor is does he leave posts without arguments. The problem with the F-35 is that the Israelis don't release more info on the supposed operations. I've only seen a video where they shot down an Iranian drone with an F-35.


His "arguments" are all copy-paste US military contractor say sos.

All evidence suggests US technology is oveyhyped yet he still persists in cheering them on more than actual Americans.
 
Oh man, be serious. They have a strong army, but they were not able to defeat some militia groups.

They couldn't do anything about Iran and Yemen either.
Israel has reduced power and options of the opposing forces in war.

They bombed Gaza back to the stone age. Many families in Gaza are scarred for life unfortunately. The international community pushed both Hamas and Israel to stop fighting and release prisoners and a deal was reached to this end recently but Israel has arrested even more Palestinians in war. Hamas put up a fight for sure but Gaza's future is uncertain in view of sheer destruction in the region. Gaza is in ruins, and it’s unclear how it will be rebuilt.

They defeated Hezbollah in war. Hezbollah could attack Israeli locations and military positions for a while but agreed to stop these attacks after suffering heavy losses and Israel also ensured regime change in Syria. Hezbollah continues to exist as a political force in Lebanon but has lost its strategic depth in the region and much of its power.

Recall my analysis in the older forum? I pointed out following possibilities to SalarHaqq:

"Iran might be attempting to encircle Israel with the intent to bring about its capitulation but this mission is unlikely to succeed. Israel is slowly but surely consuming Palestine and can cripple Hezbollah in Lebanon if it attempts to do something. Israel might also attempt to cripple Assad regime in Syria. Israeli military capability has grown by leaps and bounds since 2006. Lobbing rockets at Israeli cities makes no difference whatsoever because Israeli citizens have created underground shelters while Israel continues to expand its air defense options." (19 - 09 - 23)

"Your solution will not work but lead to destruction of Gaza and other Palestinian lands at some point. Egypt have a hand in holding Israel back through its diplomatic efforts in case you do not know." (20 - 09 - 23)

"Israel has stopped short at attacking Assad regime and its allies in full force in Syria but it is creating a cost for these elements in the country. This is not a joke or an amusing development but you are too drunk in nationalism to realize that people are dying in the process. Iran does not feels the heat because it is not being bombed, others are expendable." (23 - 09 - 23)

Who was spot on?

Houthi provided ample training opportunity to the US and considered a face-saving exit from war. Houthi still have power but their luck might run out if they repeat their anti-shipping activity while Trump is in power. Trump is not Biden.

His "arguments" are all copy-paste US military contractor say sos.

All evidence suggests US technology is oveyhyped yet he still persists in cheering them on more than actual Americans.
See this and above, student of Baghdad Bob. You have no arguments besides trolling.
 
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On a sidenote,reading my post on page 4 made me realize that autocorrect loves to make fun of me and making me look like an illiterate immigrant who speaks with a broken accent.
 
Israel has reduced power and options of the opposing forces in war.

They bombed Gaza back to the stone age. Many families in Gaza are scarred for life unfortunately. The international community pushed both Hamas and Israel to stop fighting and release prisoners and a deal was reached to this end recently but Israel has arrested even more Palestinians in war. Hamas put up a fight for sure but Gaza's future is uncertain in view of sheer destruction in the region. Gaza is in ruins, and it’s unclear how it will be rebuilt.

They defeated Hezbollah in war. Hezbollah could attack Israeli locations and military positions for a while but agreed to stop these attacks after suffering heavy losses and Israel also ensured regime change in Syria. Hezbollah continues to exist as a political force in Lebanon but has lost its strategic depth in the region and much of its power.

Recall my analysis in the older forum? I pointed out following possibilities to SalarHaqq:

"Iran might be attempting to encircle Israel with the intent to bring about its capitulation but this mission is unlikely to succeed. Israel is slowly but surely consuming Palestine and can cripple Hezbollah in Lebanon if it attempts to do something. Israel might also attempt to cripple Assad regime in Syria. Israeli military capability has grown by leaps and bounds since 2006. Lobbing rockets at Israeli cities makes no difference whatsoever because Israeli citizens have created underground shelters while Israel continues to expand its air defense options." (19 - 09 - 23)

"Your solution will not work but lead to destruction of Gaza and other Palestinian lands at some point. Egypt have a hand in holding Israel back through its diplomatic efforts in case you do not know." (20 - 09 - 23)

"Israel has stopped short at attacking Assad regime and its allies in full force in Syria but it is creating a cost for these elements in the country. This is not a joke or an amusing development but you are too drunk in nationalism to realize that people are dying in the process. Iran does not feels the heat because it is not being bombed, others are expendable." (23 - 09 - 23)

Who was spot on?

Houthi provided ample training opportunity to the US and considered a face-saving exit from war. Houthi still have power but their luck might run out if they repeat their anti-shipping activity while Trump is in power. Trump is not Biden.


See this and above, student of Baghdad Bob. You have no arguments besides trolling.
Great assessment.
Thank you for sharing.
 
Nor F-35, B2 joke or US drones never succeed:

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they bombed your energy infrastructure in Iran and yet you keep propaganda about ther weapons are failure :ROFLMAO:.
 
they bombed your energy infrastructure in Iran and yet you keep propaganda about ther weapons are failure :ROFLMAO:.

Why are you trolling?

Do you think Turkey can last one hour against the latest American and Israeli tech?

And, before you brag about Kaan or whatever, Turkey is begging for American F-35 even though Israeli F-35 are superior to American F-35. This is not my assessment; this is the assessment by Americans themselves. Israel has complete access to US defence tech, even more than UK does.

The Gaza genocide is a defiant statement by Isreal to the world that the West is utterly, completely, and ONE HUNDRED PERCENT under their control. The only time any Western leader of consequence will dare to whimper out any criticism of Israel is when there is a division within the Zionist themselves: between the racist Zionists and the ultra extreme racist Zionists.
 
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Israel didn’t fly deep into Iran at all! For the deeper targets it is widely reported that they used stand off long missiles.
 

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