The Evolution of PAF's JF-17 Thunder through OCU [Operational Capability Upgrade] - News, Updates, Possibilities & Discussions.

[Mohid Afzal]

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where are these from?

 

[CSAW]

Location : Pakistan

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Location : Pakistan

A RC model? by whom - and why ?

 

[CSAW]

"Pakistan conducts 1st flight of Iqbal Stealth aircraft's tech demonstrator. The aircraft has entered into Scaled Flight Testing.

Sub-scale Flight Testing (SFT) to study the flight behaviour of full-scale aircraft in the early stages of design process by means of free-flying sub scale models backed up by dynamic testing in wind Tunnels.

An example is The US Air Force is collecting data from flight tests of a subscale version of its Blended-Wing Body demonstrator, and using that data to revise the full-scale aircraft’s control software and final configuration—the first flight of which remains on track for 2027



Computational simulation, experimental simulations using sub-scale models (including ground-based testing methods such as wind-tunnel testing, impact testing, etc.) and full-scale flight testing are the three main testing methods. However, full-scale flight testing is impractical in the conceptual and preliminary design stages of an aircraft.

IQBAL, which is designed based on KAAN and its downsised model, successfully completed its first flight today.



The remote controlled carefully scaled version of a VLO fighter jet design.

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[Samurai]

"Pakistan conducts 1st flight of Iqbal Stealth aircraft's tech demonstrator. The aircraft has entered into Scaled Flight Testing.

Sub-scale Flight Testing (SFT) to study the flight behaviour of full-scale aircraft in the early stages of design process by means of free-flying sub scale models backed up by dynamic testing in wind Tunnels.

An example is The US Air Force is collecting data from flight tests of a subscale version of its Blended-Wing Body demonstrator, and using that data to revise the full-scale aircraft’s control software and final configuration—the first flight of which remains on track for 2027

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Computational simulation, experimental simulations using sub-scale models (including ground-based testing methods such as wind-tunnel testing, impact testing, etc.) and full-scale flight testing are the three main testing methods. However, full-scale flight testing is impractical in the conceptual and preliminary design stages of an aircraft.

IQBAL, which is designed based on KAAN and its downsised model, successfully completed its first flight today.

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The remote controlled carefully scaled version of a VLO fighter jet design.

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So what I get from reading this description is that, this IQBAL sub-scale demonstrator is supposed to be flight testing all the parameters, like aerodynamics, stealth features etc. for a future fighter sized project right?

That means IQBAL is what going to be actual PFX or Project Azm in future.

 

[CSAW]

Turkish Aerospace Pakistan :

" IQBAL in the Skies | IQBAL Göklerde



"On Friday, 14 March 2025, Turkish Aerospace Pakistan successfully conducted a 6-minute-long autonomous maiden flight of its indigenously developed technology demonstrator “IQBAL”,





named after the national poet of Pakistan Dr. Allama Muhammad Iqbal, who held the Turkish nation in high regard, and acknowledged the passion for liberty that he perceived to be a defining characteristic of the Turkish people.

IQBAL is a 1:7 dynamically scaled version of #KAAN, designed and developed entirely by a small team of extremely capable young engineers of Turkish Aerospace Pakistan.




IQBAL serves as a test bed for various advanced aerospace technologies and it will play a key role in the technological evolution of KAAN, the 5th generation fighter jet developed by Turkish Aerospace.






This achievement is dedicated to the years of unity and brotherly relations between Pakistan and Türkiye , which is epitomized by Turkish Aerospace Pakistan.

We celebrate this accomplishment with pride today and aim to achieve even greater successes in the future."




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Any aerospace setup needs a scale model construction facility. Scale models are of two broad kinds:


1- Scale models used in wind tunnel testing

2- Scale flight models used for flight tests.

Wind tunnel testing requires accurate models of flight vehicles and even small parts of the flight vehicles separately.

Most wind tunnel tests are done primarily to measure the aerodynamic flows, and are thus, not about quantifying structural and dynamic effects…

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

Pakistan must build nearly all components subsystems of JF-17 through transfer of technology from China. The Chinese are concentrating on the 5th and 6th generation fighters are JF-17 will be drag for them . They have already shifted most capabilities and engineers from JF-17 to other projects.

 

[Broghil]

Does this model plane look short in length?

 

[Oscar]

Turkish Aerospace Pakistan :

" IQBAL in the Skies | IQBAL Göklerde

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"On Friday, 14 March 2025, Turkish Aerospace Pakistan successfully conducted a 6-minute-long autonomous maiden flight of its indigenously developed technology demonstrator “IQBAL”,



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named after the national poet of Pakistan Dr. Allama Muhammad Iqbal, who held the Turkish nation in high regard, and acknowledged the passion for liberty that he perceived to be a defining characteristic of the Turkish people.

IQBAL is a 1:7 dynamically scaled version of #KAAN, designed and developed entirely by a small team of extremely capable young engineers of Turkish Aerospace Pakistan.


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IQBAL serves as a test bed for various advanced aerospace technologies and it will play a key role in the technological evolution of KAAN, the 5th generation fighter jet developed by Turkish Aerospace.



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This achievement is dedicated to the years of unity and brotherly relations between Pakistan and Türkiye , which is epitomized by Turkish Aerospace Pakistan.

We celebrate this accomplishment with pride today and aim to achieve even greater successes in the future."


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Any aerospace setup needs a scale model construction facility. Scale models are of two broad kinds:
View attachment 108696

1- Scale models used in wind tunnel testing

2- Scale flight models used for flight tests.

Wind tunnel testing requires accurate models of flight vehicles and even small parts of the flight vehicles separately.

Most wind tunnel tests are done primarily to measure the aerodynamic flows, and are thus, not about quantifying structural and dynamic effects…

So the Pakistani interns of TAI built a Nikka Kaan - or NIKAAN.

 

[air marshal]

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[MS Sandhu]

Turkish Aerospace Pakistan :

" IQBAL in the Skies | IQBAL Göklerde

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"On Friday, 14 March 2025, Turkish Aerospace Pakistan successfully conducted a 6-minute-long autonomous maiden flight of its indigenously developed technology demonstrator “IQBAL”,



View attachment 108693

named after the national poet of Pakistan Dr. Allama Muhammad Iqbal, who held the Turkish nation in high regard, and acknowledged the passion for liberty that he perceived to be a defining characteristic of the Turkish people.

IQBAL is a 1:7 dynamically scaled version of #KAAN, designed and developed entirely by a small team of extremely capable young engineers of Turkish Aerospace Pakistan.


View attachment 108695

IQBAL serves as a test bed for various advanced aerospace technologies and it will play a key role in the technological evolution of KAAN, the 5th generation fighter jet developed by Turkish Aerospace.



View attachment 108685


This achievement is dedicated to the years of unity and brotherly relations between Pakistan and Türkiye , which is epitomized by Turkish Aerospace Pakistan.

We celebrate this accomplishment with pride today and aim to achieve even greater successes in the future."


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Any aerospace setup needs a scale model construction facility. Scale models are of two broad kinds:
View attachment 108696

1- Scale models used in wind tunnel testing

2- Scale flight models used for flight tests.

Wind tunnel testing requires accurate models of flight vehicles and even small parts of the flight vehicles separately.

Most wind tunnel tests are done primarily to measure the aerodynamic flows, and are thus, not about quantifying structural and dynamic effects…

Ye iranio wale kaam shru kr lie

 

[Bilal]

Scale model technology demonstrator of something who’s full scale prototype is flying?

Seems more like a marketing stunt.

 

[SteppeWolff]

Scale model technology demonstrator of something who’s full scale prototype is flying?

Seems more like a marketing stunt.

Bro read @JamD 's all recent posts in TFX thread. He has explained it quite well. It's not a marketing stunt.

Sure it is. It is a carefully scaled aircraft, the flight data from which will be used to gather data for Kaan.

Well yes. It is controlled by radio. But you meant this as condescension. Let me assure you that this is no toy. It is quite heavy, carefully scaled, and has the mission for collection of flight data for the Kaan. It is not the only one. There are at least three flying at TA.

 

[Bilal]

Bro read @JamD 's all recent posts in TFX thread. He has explained it quite well. It's not a marketing stunt.

I get. It is done in the industry BEFORE a full scale model to collect data and for POC. But now a full scale prototype is flying for a while. You can get all the real data you need from the actual aircraft.

Looks like a marketing stunt from TAI.

 

[JamD]

I get. It is done in the industry BEFORE a full scale model to collect data and for POC. But now a full scale prototype is flying for a while. You can get all the real data you need from the actual aircraft.

Looks like a marketing stunt from TAI.

Actually the reason is the first prototype P0 was NOT meant for flight tests or even flying. It was modified and sort of forced to fly mostly for PR reasons. This is why there have been only two flights in so long. So the actual flight-testing Kaan prototype hasn't flown yet. Furthermore, there are lots of tests that need to be done and many of them are dangerous. There is a fleet of scale models at TA (this is only one of them made by Pakistan), gathering valuable data for the Kaan. I have also seen the scale model for the Anka-III so it is a common thing at TA.