Drone strike on US base kills 3 American soldiers, at least 40 injured - Iraqi Resistance claims responsibility

[925boy]

Isis or what remains of them still operate in Syria and Iraq.

but NATO or US created ISIS so this doesnt justify the US military presence in Syria or Iraq.

 

[925boy]

That's the real question if this mess escalates into direct American military involvement against Iran and it's affiliations.

If by "American military involvement" you mean the American military involvement with Yemen aka the Houthis, then no wonder Iran or its "proxies" arent scared and havent been deterred.

US can strike Iran, but US cant fight and beat Iran, because it doesnt have the 300-600K troops it will need to have a chance to defeat Iran. Any strike by US on Iran probably means Iran will ship the "not-yet-sold weapons" to Russia that will kill Ukrainian troops quicker. *(BMs, Arash suicide drones)

 

[Oscar]

There is a difference between (1) not thinking Iran is great and (2) your rhetoric ("copium fed to you masquerading as religion", "your attempts to divide Islam along sectarian lines", "massacres incited by your puppets", "your Mullahs")

Your assertion is somehow I reserve those terms just for Iran - when I will happily apply the same to the military-mullah alliance in Pakistan, white nationalist-evangelical neo cons in the US or neo liberal elitists in the US, their zionist backers who feed the tripe on zionism and promote it and ANYONE who uses religion to further what is purely a selfish human cause.

To qualify and elucidate in this context -
While the Shah was his own devil and under control of the US - what has transpired post Khomenei is a theocratic regime trying to use religion to further sectarian divide in an attempt to assert its interests within its neighbors. Using this influence to recruit fighters for proxy conflicts which its using for purely nationalist purposes.

And while all of this could be justified as if it was some greater “Ummah” cause - the leadership of this theocracy has been abusing their power to protect their interests and families while quelling any opposition with the favorite target being women. So yes, I stand by what I said about Iran just as I stand by the US ending up as an Israeli puppet/cover due to efforts of the Zionists.

Do you want me to bring in the nakedness of Pakistan too to assuage your hurts? Or the Arabs maybe?

Let me ACKNOWLEDGE that as part of their foreign policy - the US DOES, ISRAEL DOES and the GCC DOES do all it can to push against Iranian interests - sponsor elements against the current regime including non-state actors.

It’s a dirty game - but anyone under the delusion that only their interests are just or their cause is right and everything else should be silenced is wrong.

 

[hasn2009]

That is folly too and broad brush strokes. Are you aware of the constant feedback US soldiers themselves share on why they are part of these conflicts? As to why when they could clear out an area of terrorists who cut up a child because he wasn’t Shia and elders asked them to intervene, the choice is made by higher ups to use a 1000lb bomb?

Anybody can generalize - better to understand deeper dynamics of the conflict. Understand why your regime does what it does regardless of this bullcrap of “against zionism” and how the US military and state is also divided on its involvement in these conflicts.

There is an actual group of US military veterans posting anti-Israel messages because they see the problem it has created and led to. But instead you are advocating for broad based deaths regardless of civilian or military i.e. Terrorism which you are accusing the US of in broad strokes just as certain US members are.

At the end of it, an eye for an eye can go on with the associated hatred but the US isn’t losing as much as Iran simply because all the other players in ME are watching their own interests.

Maybe its time Iran watches its own by not extending its proxy warfare hand, focus on building goodwill with its neighbors and then use it to tackle the threat it alleges it faces from zionists.

Agreed that all ME countries should stop fighting and make friends, peace in ME is more beneficial to Iran than any other ME country, US-Israel knows that too hence they keep destabilizing the region.

US wants all countries to bow to them, which most do, Iran used to do it too until Shah of Iran's rule, it was all love and butterflies, problem started when Irani people overthrew US puppets and took charge in their own hands.

US obviously didn't like that and they first used Iraq to try to stop Iran getting out of its lap but failed, ever since US is using its pets in ME to somehow try to tame Iran.

If you carefully see the historic timeline since the fall of pro-US monarchy from Iran, all anti-Iran stuff happened in ME was backed by US-Isreal, i mean how difficult is it to see that one country is sanctioned for half-century, can't buy/sell anything, while its opponents enjoy open trade, state of the art military tech etc.

 

[925boy]

honestly isis is burned out card, they are a menace for everyone , no country in region want them and if they have free hand government in the region clear them in no time and there won't be any hiding place for them.

As a proxy for US, not yet, because ISIS executed the deadly death anniversary procession for Soleimani in Iran that killed scores of Iranians.

ISIS is a US proxy, used to fight Iran-allied or friendly govts and entities- look at the regional facts and events (this is ISIS's 3rd attack on Iran and it has never attached ISrael - US PROXY!), they speak for themselves.

 

[KingQamaR]

If by "American military involvement" you mean the American military involvement with Yemen aka the Houthis, then no wonder Iran or its "proxies" arent scared and havent been deterred.

US can strike Iran, but US cant fight and beat Iran, because it doesnt have the 300-600K troops it will need to have a chance to defeat Iran. Any strike by US on Iran probably means Iran will ship the "not-yet-sold weapons" to Russia that will kill Ukrainian troops quicker. *(BMs, Arash suicide drones)

Looks like we’re blindly walking into a war.

 

[Oscar]

Agreed that all ME countries should stop fighting and make friends, peace in ME is more beneficial to Iran than any other ME country, US-Israel knows that too hence they keep destabilizing the region.

US wants all countries to bow to them, which most do, Iran used to do it too until Shah of Iran's rule, it was all love and butterflies, problem started when Irani people overthrew US puppets and took charge in their own hands.

US obviously didn't like that and they first used Iraq to try to stop Iran getting out of its lap but failed, ever since US is using its pets in ME to somehow try to tame Iran.

If you carefully see the historic timeline since the fall of pro-US monarchy from Iran, all anti-Iran stuff happened in ME was backed by US-Isreal, i mean how difficult is it to see that one country is sanctioned for half-century, can't buy/sell anything, while its opponents enjoy open trade, state of the art military tech etc.

I ABSOLUTELY agree with what you said - US foreign policy has historically tried every dirty trick in the book to get its way. It goes beyond the middle east BUT
That is the whole idea of projection of foreign policy for your interests at all costs.

For that matter the Iranian Revolution (which right in principle) was fully supported by the USSR. Because at the end Iran the nation is one thing - but Iran the ally with its resources and near perfect geographical location to allow exertion of influence in Asia, Middle East and even Europe is what is desired.

And the core thinkers within Iran also understand this - because Iran wasn’t born yesterday or in 79 or with Reza Shah - it goes back to the Safvids maintaining their independence from Arabic rule and before. They’ve maintained their influence by hook or by crook - and do so today as well. My problem is with using the religious aspect to it - but as I have written for record so the blind nationalists don’t find another enemy (as if they don’t have enough).

Finally, it was agreed upon by management that uniformed troops were not to be termed terrorists regardless of where they are from because they follow orders. And just as it is wrong to post asking for killing of all Iranians it is wrong to post the same for Americans. Selective justice cannot be the way.

 

[Eşbah]

I don't want to sound disrespectful but you don't start WW III over two, three dead soldiers. I hope sanity prevails.

 

[925boy]

Won’t be long now….it’ll all kick off.

The Iraqi resistance is definitely waiting, because they have probably calculated (and experienced) a "weak" US military response to their over 170+ attacks on US troops in Iraq and Syria - because the Iraqi resistance knows the US doesnt the proper logistics to degrade their capabilities considerably -10s of thousands of ground forces nearby/in the required engagement locations and lots of ammunition - US military seems to not have enough of those available (Ukraine, you are a curse and drain to US resources!) and ready to attack resistance forces- dont ask me, look at the facts.

 

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[KingQamaR]

I don't want to sound disrespectful but you don't start WW III over two, three dead soldiers. I hope sanity prevails.

This is so stupid. West are playing right into Israel’s hand .

 

[925boy]

I would say option 4, if Iran is attacked directly they will have no choice but to retaliate otherwise they will look weak and their red line will be seen as a joke and even Israel can attack without worry.

i think US military is afraid to strike inside Iran because that gives Iran full authorization to unleash deadly and difficult- to-intercept missiles at US troops that are close to Iran and not effectively defended by Patriots and other AD systems. Patriots, Iron dome, SM-3s, etc all didnt effectively intercept Houthi missiles fired at Eilat- that is a fact, no ifs ands or buts, unless you're trolling. Iranian weapons and military are obviously deadlier than the Houthis' military capabilities.

 

[hasn2009]

post Khomenei is a theocratic regime trying to use religion to further sectarian divide

I don't know where are you getting this from but in reality, Arab countries have much more sectarian divide than Iran, shia muslims getting beheaded in Saudia, not allowed to call for prayers, and in UAE they still deport shia if they find out you are performing shia rituals etc, irony is hindu can celebrate holi, but shia can't commemorate their rituals etc, their ID cards are scanned even when going for Friday prayers.

They still term shia as kafir, on the other hand you can see Iran's khamienie calling sunnis as more than brothers.

 

[hasn2009]

I ABSOLUTELY agree with what you said - US foreign policy has historically tried every dirty trick in the book to get its way. It goes beyond the middle east BUT
That is the whole idea of projection of foreign policy for your interests at all costs.

For that matter the Iranian Revolution (which right in principle) was fully supported by the USSR. Because at the end Iran the nation is one thing - but Iran the ally with its resources and near perfect geographical location to allow exertion of influence in Asia, Middle East and even Europe is what is desired.

And the core thinkers within Iran also understand this - because Iran wasn’t born yesterday or in 79 or with Reza Shah - it goes back to the Safvids maintaining their independence from Arabic rule and before. They’ve maintained their influence by hook or by crook - and do so today as well. My problem is with using the religious aspect to it - but as I have written for record so the blind nationalists don’t find another enemy (as if they don’t have enough).

Finally, it was agreed upon by management that uniformed troops were not to be termed terrorists regardless of where they are from because they follow orders. And just as it is wrong to post asking for killing of all Iranians it is wrong to post the same for Americans. Selective justice cannot be the way.

Troops vs troops is fair game, civilians is definitely not, I am too sitting in US, how can I call for attack on americas

 

[Persian Gulf]

I don't know where are you getting this from but in reality, Arab countries have much more sectarian divide than Iran, shia muslims getting beheaded in Saudia, not allowed to call for prayers, and in UAE they still deport shia if they find out you are performing shia rituals etc, irony is hindu can celebrate holi, but shia can't commemorate their rituals etc.

They still term shia as kafir, on the other hand you can see Iran's khamienie calling sunnis as more than brothers.

Apparently Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Ansarallah, Syrian Arab Army ... are all Shia

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