Egyptian Armed Forces

I want to enter into a debate on these points because whatever the point of view, as long as things are not in the field of the emergence of weapons, there will always be a lack of acceptance of this point of view. I made it clear simply that Egypt is not a small country. Even the maneuver called Eagles of Civilization 2025 shows that the countries of ancient civilizations are against modern artificial countries such as America, Israel, the Emirates, and other countries that did not exist during the previous 600 years. Therefore, we leave the confirmation to the stage of announcing or their actual emergence, which is better than an argument that will not end.
You don't seem to understand what I mean.

The Chinese government has been able to keep China stable in a turbulent world for so many years. The core elements are: 1. Policy predictability; 2. Policy continuity; 3. Keeping promises.

This has nothing to do with whether Egypt is a big country or a small country.

The J-20 is currently the core fighter of the PLAAF, and it is not exported. Of course, since China's 6th-Gen fighter has appeared, it is not ruled out that it may be exported in the future. However, there will be some signs before it can be exported.
1. "J-20E" appeared at the Zhuhai Air Show in China. The code "E" means the export-only model. When the letter "E" appears in a weapon code, it means that it has obtained export permission. ------ It has not appeared yet.
2. The level of diplomatic relations between China and Egypt has been upgraded. China's arms exports are related to the level of diplomatic relations. As an advanced heavy 5th-Gen fighter, if the J-20 can be exported, many countries with higher diplomatic relations will get it first. ------ The diplomatic relations level between China and Egypt is currently at level 4, and there are many countries ahead of them that are eager to get the J-20.

The J-16 is not exported. Please refer to what I said before about "keeping promises".

Egypt can freely choose the J-10CE and J-35, as well as air defense systems and long-range rocket artillery systems. If technology transfer or production lines are needed, negotiations can be carried out.
 
You don't seem to understand what I mean.

The Chinese government has been able to keep China stable in a turbulent world for so many years. The core elements are: 1. Policy predictability; 2. Policy continuity; 3. Keeping promises.

This has nothing to do with whether Egypt is a big country or a small country.

The J-20 is currently the core fighter of the PLAAF, and it is not exported. Of course, since China's 6th-Gen fighter has appeared, it is not ruled out that it may be exported in the future. However, there will be some signs before it can be exported.
1. "J-20E" appeared at the Zhuhai Air Show in China. The code "E" means the export-only model. When the letter "E" appears in a weapon code, it means that it has obtained export permission. ------ It has not appeared yet.
2. The level of diplomatic relations between China and Egypt has been upgraded. China's arms exports are related to the level of diplomatic relations. As an advanced heavy 5th-Gen fighter, if the J-20 can be exported, many countries with higher diplomatic relations will get it first. ------ The diplomatic relations level between China and Egypt is currently at level 4, and there are many countries ahead of them that are eager to get the J-20.

The J-16 is not exported. Please refer to what I said before about "keeping promises".

Egypt can freely choose the J-10CE and J-35, as well as air defense systems and long-range rocket artillery systems. If technology transfer or production lines are needed, negotiations can be carried out.
There is a contradiction in your number 1.

You say the J-20E has appeared in the Zuhai show then you end it withI has not appeared yet!???

Anyhow..when the UAE refused the F-35 with US conditions ..China offered the J-20.. not the E version but a tailor made version for the UAE.. you can google this!

You should consider the relationship of China with the Arab world as a whole..that is how it works and Egypt along with KSA and the UAE are very high in the scale of the Arab world..

Many serious sources have reported on J-20 negotiations between Egypt and China for a while.. this can happen in the near future..not big numbers.. but in nearer future we will see the J-10E and most likely the J-35 in good numbers..
 
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You also didn't understand important matters. America wants to thwart the Belt and Road Initiative, and Egypt and the Suez Canal are a key factor. Besides, China is already pumping large investments into exporting Chinese products from Egypt to Europe, Africa, and the United States. It exploits preferential trade agreements. Egypt is one of the countries that opened its markets to Chinese products since the late 1970s. Indeed, China benefited from Egypt's open-door policy, which was incorrectly implemented by Egypt in 1975, with China avoiding Egyptian mistakes. Therefore, development in China succeeded, unlike Egypt, which is led by corrupt regimes. Therefore, development in Egypt is limited. Sisi's agreement between Egypt and China is based on many issues, including preventing the fragmentation and division of countries, calming the situation in East Africa, expelling the US Navy from the southern Red Sea by resolving conflicts, and agreeing on the Palestinian issue and the Taiwan Islands. Neither Egypt nor China wants war, because they are chess players who believe that military conflicts weaken countries. Therefore, Egypt considers military conflict as the last resort.

When I mentioned that China is investing in Sinai ports, logistics zones, and the Suez Canal Economic Zone, The main sea route between the southern Red Sea and Europe is part of the Belt and Road Initiative. Closing it would harm Chinese trade.

To prevent any war between Egypt and Israel, Egypt must possess the deterrent capability to do so.

Egypt is not using China as a pressure tool against the Americans to allow the passage of European arms deals, which have been stalled since 2021.

I gave the example of China and Egypt cooperating on manufacturing programs to obtain weapons in large quantities. I explained in previous responses that Egypt is a gateway for Chinese weapons sales to Arab and African countries. After Egypt purchased 150 F-7 and 90 F-6 fighter jets, the fighters assembled in Egypt were re-exported to Iraq via Jordan and Sudan. The same applies to the H-6 bomber deal in 1976, which China offered to upgrade to Egypt between 2000 and 2009. At that time, China did not possess more modern aircraft.

This YouTuber analyzes a Tactical Report article from March 2025 about the deal for 15 fighter jets. J-20
The disagreement between Egypt and China relates to Egypt's request to carry out maintenance locally, rather than having the Chinese do so.
Integrating the J-20 into the command and control system, just as the MIG-29M fighter jets were integrated, has been under negotiation since 2019.
Egypt is even talking about integrating its AESA radar technology into other air platforms. The article explains that China, as a result of its development of sixth-generation, fifth-generation, and 4++-generation fighters, has no problem exporting them. China will not provide the latest versions of the J-20 to Egypt. This is normal for arms-producing countries to keep some secrets to themselves, not the entire system.

The Americans are objecting to the deal and are trying to sabotage it under the pretext of pressure. Egypt responded to the Americans by refusing, and the Americans forced the Europeans not to sell the EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON fighter jets to Egypt, as well as to export FREMM frigates and air defense systems. Even the pressure of delaying the delivery of Rafale fighters and the full requirement for ammunition was met with an announcement of deals. Arms with China as a pressure card does not mean abandoning Chinese weapons, as they represent the amount of armament in Egypt, which cannot be obtained in the same quantities from America or Europe. Egypt made it clear to America that its bias towards Israel is unacceptable and that Egypt will raise its relations with other countries as long as relations with America do not meet Egyptian needs, whether investments or pressure cards that America has used against Egypt, such as the Gulf. Egypt also cooperated with Iran as a pressure card against the Gulf and Israel. Egypt may appear to care about American objections, but in reality, Egypt simply rejects the relationship with North Korea, which continues to this day militarily. When America exerted pressure on Egypt, it announced its severance, but in reality, the same thing does not happen. The weapons that Egypt was subjected to under CAATSA are not actually canceled, but they suggest that the deals are frozen or canceled. Simply put, in exchange for the Sukhoi deal, Egypt was supposed to have the F-15EX, and as long as the American deals have not been completed, it is natural that Egypt will not give up the Sukhoi 35. There is constant media manipulation and deception, but countries are looking out for their own interests, and pressure is being applied. Overcoming it, Egypt is not an occupied country with American bases, like some countries that were forced to do so when images of the Chinese H-200 radar, which has been in operation since 2005, showed. It is quite natural for these systems to be re-developed and integrated into newer systems, as long as the SA-2 systems have been retired. Therefore, when leaks emerged about Egypt possessing systems like the HQ-9, this remained within this framework.

Another point that has escaped some people's attention is China's production of J-16/20 fighters, at a rate of 100 for each model. It is the main one on the production line. China has become saturated with J-10 fighters, so basically, it is...
Egypt is moving toward heavy fighters because future battles and the command of heavy fighters for UCAV aircraft, which requires fighters with longer range and longer air endurance, change countries' fighter requirements. The J-10C tactical fighter is in demand for Egypt because Israel is adjacent to Egypt, and the consumption of tactical fighters is high in war, and rapidly as a result of violent clashes. Therefore, Egypt's focus has been on tactical fighters during the peace period. 1982-2015: Egypt shifted to twin-engine fighter jets in new deals. Things are not as advertised at arms fairs or in the media, as they are all controlled and convey what countries want, not the full facts. The Americans themselves are well aware that Egypt, in return for its interests, will ignore any American pressure. Rather, Egypt uses its international relations with other countries as a message to the American side: If your relationship with Egypt is not beneficial, expelling the Americans from Egypt will be much faster than expelling the Soviets from Egypt in 1972.

Egypt has begun to demand technology transfer, not just weapons purchases, and to become part of the international supply chain for weapons and their components. Therefore, what Egypt requests from France, it requests from all countries, including South Korea, Turkey, and China. Egypt is maneuvering among all countries to meet its requirements, whether military or even industrial.


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"Eagle of Civilization" maneuvers between Egypt and China

The Chinese Ministry of Defense announced that the Chinese and Egyptian armies will soon be holding the first joint maneuver in a move to enhance cooperation.

And with the Chinese People's Liberation Army Air Force sending forces to Egypt, a Chinese expert stated that this maneuver may pave the way for a possible cooperation in the field of aviation supply.

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The topic is frankly a big step! Joint air training "Eagle of Civilization 2025" between Egypt and China is the first time to happen, and this shows that Egypt wants to balance its international relations and cooperates with the forces of China. For China, this is an opportunity to expand its influence in the region. The training itself is symbolic, but it can open the door for greater cooperation, such as arms deals or technology. But it has risks, as Israel can worry about this rapprochement, and relations with America could be factored into the calculations. In general, I see that it is a smart move from Egypt, but it needs to be carefully calculated to avoid upsetting the balance.

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Major General Samir Faraj, the former head of morale of the Egyptian armed forces, confirmed in a television interview that Egypt obtained the Chinese air defense system HQ-9B, which is considered the equivalent of the Russian S-400 system. The system is characterized by a range of up to 300 km and advanced capacity to combat jamming.

This cooperation comes within the framework of strengthening military relations between Egypt and China, especially with the announcement of the joint "Eagles of Civilization 2025" maneuvers. The move reflects Egypt's strategy to diversify the sources of arming itself, but it may raise regional concerns, especially in Israel, and affect the dynamics of the region.

HQ-9B upgraded version. It comes equipped with two new generation AESA radars and interceptors incorporating active radar seekers.
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Military spokesman: The European Union delivers Egypt to the "SAR-1700" search and rescue vessels ..

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The SAR-1700-class boats are among the most advanced units for search and rescue operations and represent a significant addition to Egypt’s naval assets.

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There is a contradiction in your number 1.
You say the J-20E has appeared in the Zuhai show then you end it withI has not appeared yet!???
You may rarely read my posts.
I don't speak English. All my posts are translated through translation software. It often has some grammatical or language logic problems.

Here. What I want to express is:
"When the J-20E appears, it means it can be exported." This is a signal. But this signal has not appeared yet.

Anyhow..when the UAE refused the F-35 with US conditions ..China offered the J-20.. not the E version but a tailor made version for the UAE.. you can google this!
Many serious sources have reported on J-20 negotiations between Egypt and China for a while.. this can happen in the near future..not big numbers.. but in nearer future we will see the J-10E and most likely the J-35 in good numbers..
There are a lot of rumors about China in the English-speaking world. Usually, it is difficult for people to identify the truth of these rumors.

Again. J-20 is not for export! All the current news about its export/customization are lies made up by the media! (At least for now.)

If it can be exported, Egypt and the UAE do not meet its export conditions. The only country in the entire Middle East that is close to this condition may be Saudi Arabia.

J-10CE and J-35 are fighter jets that China sells publicly to foreign countries. China does not have many restrictions on who they sell to.

You should consider the relationship of China with the Arab world as a whole..that is how it works and Egypt along with KSA and the UAE are very high in the scale of the Arab world.
You can't analyze China with Western thinking.
China's first priority is its own development.
In the Western system, diplomacy is a very important job. The foreign minister ranks very high in the government system of these countries. But in the Chinese system, this situation is completely different.
As for the Middle East.
A very simple question: Who does China come to help in the Middle East? Or, which country can China further develop into an ally?
If you analyze this question in depth, you will find that the answer is very interesting.
 
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Calm down, it's not a conflict. If there was a mistake in guidance, why? It's not a crime. We are presenting the point of view of each party, not for the sake of being harsh in dealing.
 
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Buying countries and their decisions, such as turning Egypt into a homeland for refugees by such grants, is against the constants of Egyptian national security and not realizing the danger of refugees and their negative economic impact on Egypt and the Egyptian people, shows the extent of his short-sightedness and lack of even respect for the Egyptian people who reject these refugees, whom the regime uses as a tool of pressure on Europe in exchange for its continued rule without caring about Egyptian national security. This puts a question mark on the extent of their concern for Egypt’s interests and not their personal interests.
 
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Looking forward to the pictures! Wonder what China will send, and what Egypt will use. If it will be fighter jet based exercise, or logistical/ground based, etc ... As yet, not clear on what the exercises will be.
 
Perhaps studying KJ-700H to replace E-2C aircraft Fleet could be considered

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The deal enters the final stages .. 100 Korean FA-50 aircraft are on its way to Egypt

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Egypt entered the final stages of negotiations with South Korea to purchase up to 100 Korean Light-fighter/trainer Eagle aircraft ...

The deal is of 100 Korean aircraft between Egypt and South Korea
The proposed deal, which includes the element of technology transfer and local production of most aircrafts in Egypt, aims to update the Egyptian Air Force and expand its defensive industrial base. The acquisition plan also reflects the increasing strategic cooperation between Egypt and South Korea.

Egypt's ambassador to South Korea: Cairo is about to sign the contract
At the end of last month, the Egyptian Ambassador to South Korea, Khaled Abdel Rahman, stated in an interview with Yonhap News Agency that Cairo is about to sign a contract with the Korean Air Industries Company "Kai".

According to Defenceweb, the agreement includes up to 100 FA-50 aircraft and will start with an initial batch of 36 units, at a value of about one billion dollars.

About 70 aircrafts are expected to be assembled locally at the Egyptian Aircraft Factory in Helwan, according to an agreement signed in 2023 between Kai and the Arab Organization for Industrialization.

The FA-50, which shares about 70% of its components with the F-16, aims to replace Alpha Jets and K-8E ancient Egyptian training aircrafts..

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https://armyrecognition.com/news/ae...ack-aircraft-to-egypt-in-largest-deal-to-date

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The conclusion of the activities of the Egyptian -Russian joint marine training, "Friendship Bridge" in the Mediterranean Sea

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