Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Yasser76]

A rickshaw puller in India can afford atta, pay for electricity, and still dream of sending his son to become an engineer, something that was once only a middle class aspiration. That’s the kind of social mobility India offers, even at the lowest rungs.

In Pakistan, forget engineering, your middle class is struggling to keep the lights on, let alone fund aspirations. So yes, it’s entirely fair to say quality of life in India is far ahead, and no amount of emotional spin can change that.

Yes, tell that to most of the Dalits

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

M.K Bhadrakumar

What a chronicle of wasted time India and Pakistan are presenting! One had thought that the ‘peace dividend’ of the war in Afghanistan should do a world of good for India-Pakistan relations. But the opposite has happened. If the two countries are incapable of living in amity even after decades, why not seek the help of friendly countries to promote reconciliation? There is nothing obnoxious about it.

Some hard lessons need to be drawn. First and foremost, the raison d’être of India’s diplomacy in Kabul should be firmly and exclusively anchored on a bilateral grid of mutual benefit and mutual respect pivoting on friendship at people-to-people level. The temptation to reduce the Indo-Afghan cooperation as a ‘second front’ against Pakistan will always be there so long as Delhi harbours an adversarial mindset toward Islamabad, but we should be abundantly cautious not to create misperceptions in the Pakistani mind and end up adding yet another dimension to the boiling cauldron of existing differences, disputes and discords. The point is, the break-up in 1971 is a searing memory still in the Pakistani psyche, which it can only exorcise with some Indian help and understanding.

This calls for a deliberately passive diplomacy strategy to adapt to partner needs of Afghan friends while safeguarding India’s interests in the region. To my mind, the main platform must be in economic terms. Indians are agile enough to prepare such a precise and systematic strategy.

Second, the present crisis has exposed that while the world opinion is supportive of India’s concerns over terrorism, it is not inclined to put the entire blame on Pakistan, as some of us would have probably liked. Put differently, the world opinion also empathises with Pakistan as a victim of terrorism. Terrorism poses an existential threat to Pakistan manifold in gravity compared to what India faces. And something of the Pakistani allegations with regard to an ‘Indian hand’ may have come to stick in the world opinion even if not audible.

Third, most important, taking the above factors into account, the law of diminishing returns is at work in our decade-old strategy to slam the door shut on Pakistan, refuse to talk to Pakistan, spurn their overtures for dialogue. If the US can bring itself to have dialogue with Russia and Iran (or, conceivably, with North Korea in a near future) despite the backlog of very hostile relationships, we need to sense that in the emerging world order, dialogue is the preferred mode in inter-state relationship and it must be fostered with all means available.

The bottom line is, there has never been and never can be absolute security. No lesser a realist than Henry Kissinger highlighted the basic flaw in any quest for absolute security: “The desire of one power for absolute security means the absolute insecurity for all the others.”

When it comes to the South Asian region, this is even more so, as common security takes on special significance and urgency in the context of the nuclear stockpile and a sensitive flashpoint in the Himalayas and, of course, the strategic pivot of the region itself. Therefore, the attempt to resolve the Kashmir dispute unilaterally during the past six-year period since 2019 without any consultation / participation by Pakistan (or China, for that matter) is futile and betrays hubris.

India-Pakistan tensions show signs of easing - Indian Punchline

Exchange of fire on Line of Control between India and Pakistan Time past is time present in India-Pakistan crisis. The ‘mediation’ by the United States from behind the scene on the diplomatic track appears to be once again working, which calls on both Delhi and Islamabad to show restraint and...

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Unfortunately the current facist regime in India like many other facists around the world is fuelled by hatred and insecurity, without that fuel (pakistan) it will cease to move, so it needs this constant injection of fuel to operate. All these incidents and false flags keep this regime alive. But this will be indias undoing, it will eat itself up within

 

[arjunk]

Pakistan today conducted a successful training launch of the Abdali Weapon System— a surface-to-surface missile with a range of 450 kilometers as part of Ex INDUS.

The launch was aimed at ensuring the operational readiness of troops and validating key technical parameters, including the missile’s advanced navigation system and enhanced manoeuvrability features.

The training launch was witnessed by the Commander Army Strategic Forces Command, senior officials from the Strategic Plans Division, Army Strategic Forces Command, as well as scientists and engineers from Pakistan’s strategic organizations.

The President, Prime Minister of Pakistan, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, and Services Chiefs extended their congratulations to the participating troops, scientists, and engineers.

They expressed complete confidence in the operational preparedness and technical proficiency of Pakistan’s Strategic Forces to ensure credible minimum deterrence and safeguard national security against any aggression.

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abdali 2 = nuclear armed Fatah-III

 

[lightoftruth]

Pakistani ships have been banned by India to visit any Indian port. No Indian ship will visit a Pakistani port.

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[Yasser76]

Meanwhile GOI officially bans Pakistani imports and transit of goods.

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Direct trade was 0, now Modi will make it.....-0!!!!!

56 chest

 

[Yasser76]

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Thank God, now finally we can clean up Karachi

 

[Aggregate]

What happened in East Paksiatn (Bangladesh) wasn’t as simple as explained by you. Paksiatn themselves are equally to be blamed for mishandling the entire situation.

India took advantage of that and Bangladesh was created. Was it wrong or right depends on which side you are? It can be called a masterstroke or back stabbing depending on the side one belongs to.

The current situation in Bangladesh is an unfolding saga. Any statement clawing that it is over and in Indian disadvantage would be a rushed up analysis. India is still the biggest neighbour and would have some cards to play. How it pans out is anybody’s guess. Bangladesh posing a military threat to India would be a naive expectation.

Equations can change be overnight and yesterdays foe can become a fast friend in a day in international relations. There are examples galore of that.
Afghanistan is the most recent one. Paksiatn engineered and facilitated Talibans return to power but we all know how it has panned out. It was a big miscalculation- as we can call it.

Who carried out the massacre of tourists at Pahalgam is again a mystery and no one is ready to accept the other side’s version. Does it make a difference?

It is being used for making decisions with far reaching implications. That’s very convenient for Indian government. That’s the bottom line, as of now.

Mishandled or not, it was an illegal move under International law and that's it. Again, compare it to Nagaland, Kashmir, etc if it was enclaved by Pakistan. Pakistan surrounding an helping annex it would be illegal move regardless of what was going on. Justify it all you want, it was illegal and you used the hostages to force Pakistan into singing it off as legitimate. As I said, deal with what you have been bragging about, for decades now.

 

[arjunk]

What happened in East Paksiatn (Bangladesh) wasn’t as simple as explained by you. Paksiatn themselves are equally to be blamed for mishandling the entire situation.

India took advantage of that and Bangladesh was created. Was it wrong or right depends on which side you are? It can be called a masterstroke or back stabbing depending on the side one belongs to.

Masterstroke or failed investment, the fact is it was an unprovoked invasion of Pakistani territory and 90,000 mostly non-army Pakistani citizens were taken hostage by India.

There never has been any moral high ground for India to stand on.

 

[Yasser76]

Like we did it in 1971 ?

Or we did for 1,000 years over all of India?

How far back do you want to go?

1971 your aircraft carrier was sailing around, now it's in port, ask yourself why?

 

[Yasser76]

But India was never a country before 1947 by many people's logic so how did Muslims rule Hindus for thousands of years? How would you classify the hundreds of thousands of converts who converted post the conquest? Who's whom?
What about the countless Hindu regions who formed alliance with the Muslims? It was always a intertws based thing.

There are so many fallacies in this statement. Modern day statehood is a western concept and by that parameter most modern states have attained it.

That is a lot of words to say you were ruled by a muslim minority for a thousand years.

Anyway, lets get thread back on track

 

[M. Sarmad]

Looking at some of these messages, looks like India at least had a LOT of success in the 5th Gen Warfare domain, within our own population. Although I do trust that yes, Allah is with us and not only in Kinetic Domain, but info warfare domain as well, Pak army will eventually prevail. It will take time, but 5th Gen warfare is a huge Fitna and it will take time to be reversed. Until then its pointless to talk about it. Allah will surely protect us against the Deceit and Lies of others that they have sown within us.

As my 103 year old Grandfather has always told me "we saw countless people who people claimed, that Pakistan will die without ! They all came and went away, but Pakistan remained, Pakistan is much more than any single person, no matter what people say, these stories have kept on coming up in the last 70 years and they will continue thereafter".

It’s truly astonishing to see references to Allah and the Qur’an so freely invoked when speaking of Pakistan and its Army.... yet, somehow, the blatant violations of the very Quranic injunctions they claim to uphold are conveniently ignored. Justice, the sanctity of life, homes, and property, the binding nature of oaths etc—all clearly mandated in the Qur’an, and all shamelessly trampled by the state...

Yes, it’s true.... the enemy is waging information warfare against Pakistan. But that’s precisely what enemies are expected to do.... The real problem is when the state deflects all criticism, whitewashes its own crimes and failures, and hides behind the convenient excuse of “enemy propaganda.” That kind of denial isn’t defending Pakistan, it’s damaging it further.

And finally, as clearly laid out in the Qur’an (13:11 and 8:53), Allah does not safeguard a people who fail to safeguard themselves, nor does He preserve those who defy His commands. We cannot consistently undermine Pakistan’s unity and integrity, defy Allah's commands, and then, with breathtaking irony, claim that it is a divine gift destined to last forever. Such a belief not only contradicts the Qur’an, it flies in the face of reason itself...

 

[RescueRanger]

Amid rising tensions in the region, Pakistan successfully conducted a training launch of the surface-to-surface ballistic missile “Abdali,” which is capable of carrying both conventional and nuclear warheads up to a range of 450 kilometres, the military’s media wing said.

According to a statement issued by the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR)on Saturday, the test was aimed at “validating the operational readiness and technical parameters of the weapon system.”

 

[Cesur]

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[Master Chief]

Hate against muslims

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Some Muslims in Bharat are indeed exceptionally brave.

 

[hussain0216]

Pakistanis should be thankful to the Indian Hindu terrorist organization RSS and its political face Modi for their Hindutva policies pursued both domestically as well as on the foreign front. These fascist Indian policies have exposed the real ugly face of Indian farce democracy. Domestically, Modi and his gang of RSS terrorists have become a symbol of terror for Indian religious minorities, especially Muslims. The rise of Hindu extremism, subsequently getting into power and controlling the state, and then the implementation of these fascist Hindutva policies is very similar to the way German Nazis and their political face Hitler finally got hold of Germany through the democratic process. Many world powers will not accept such a fascist state, and that too a nuclear power, in the world, especially in a region having three neighboring nuclear powers.

Young Muslim generations in both India and Pakistan were almost unfamiliar with the criminal Hindu mindset and deep prejudice in successive Hindu leaderships towards Muslims in particular and Christians and Sikhs in general. Hindu goons, backed by full support of Indian government officials, have been openly and consistently claiming that India is only for Hindus. The nominal secular status of Indian Union has completely been eroded, and India has effectively turned into a Hindutva state. Indian Muslims have effectively been surrounded and suffocated in this Hindutva state. Their life, honor, and property are at the mercy of Hindu goons and biased officials. To be honest, the Hindutva policies pursued by the RSS government in India (through its political wing, the BJP) for the last 15 years have brought the same realization among the Muslims as it was in late 1930s and 1940s in the British India. That realization was then culminated in the creation of the state of Pakistan.

I keep saying this

And Indian clowns say I'm broken record saying the same thing for the last few years

That's because it's OBVIOUS,

You simply cannot trap hundreds of millions in this situation, their will be INEVITABLE FALLOUT

The reasons for partition are strong and it will happen, the only question is how much bloodshed will their be