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Persian Gulf said:
US admits Yemen nearly hit several F-16s and an F-35
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USN doesn't Fly F-16's. :unsure:

And what is this "nearly?" Two feet? Two miles?
 
SolarWarden said:
USN doesn't Fly F-16's. :unsure:

And what is this "nearly?" Two feet? Two miles?
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No but we still have F-16s at certain bases.

Knowing where some of those bases are located, I am skeptical that any F-16s have been involved.
 
It would be wise to not make big claims based on few incidents and some tweets such as the F-18s failed and F-16s were used and vice versa. American forces struck over 1000 targets inside Yemen as per reliable sources (The Houthi also confirmed it), but the US did not disclose much information about what was struck due to Pete's scandal and general focus on trade politics. The Houthi have a less visible force structure that is mostly underground and there is also blending with civilian infrastructure. The Houthi have put up a good fight but they were also preventing journalists from providing details about what was struck in different locations as per some Yemeni sources not under their control. People tend to forget that the Houthi do not control a chunk of Yemen. Therefore, we do not have a clear idea of the losses suffered by the Houthi.

The Houthi have agreed with the US to dial down their anti-shipping activity in Red Sea and that seems to be the case. However, the Houthi are willing to take their chances with Israel and Israel is also willing to respond and Israel will be less restrained in its strikes than the US. Let's not be boastful but realistic in our take on these themes.
 
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LeGenD said:
It would be wise to not make big claims based on few incidents and some tweets such as the F-18s failed and F-16s were used and vice versa. American forces struck over 1000 targets inside Yemen as per reliable sources (The Houthi also confirmed it), but the US did not disclose much information about what was struck due to Pete's scandal and general focus on trade politics. The Houthi have a less visible force structure that is mostly underground and there is also blending with civilian infrastructure. The Houthi have put up a good fight but they were also preventing journalists from providing details about what was struck in different locations as per some Yemeni sources not under their control. People tend to forget that the Houthi do not control a chunk of Yemen. Therefore, we do not have a clear idea of the losses suffered by the Houthi.

The Houthi have agreed with the US to dial down their anti-shipping activity in Red Sea and that seems to be the case. However, the Houthi are willing to take their chances with Israel and Israel is also willing to respond and Israel will be less restrained in its strikes than the US. Let's not be boastful but realistic in our take on these themes.
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it's from a NYT article:


When he approved a campaign to reopen shipping in the Red Sea by bombing the Houthi militant group into submission, President Trump wanted to see results within 30 days of the initial strikes two months ago.

By Day 31, Mr. Trump, ever leery of drawn-out military entanglements in the Middle East, demanded a progress report, according to administration officials.

But the results were not there. The United States had not even established air superiority over the Houthis. Instead, what was emerging after 30 days of a stepped-up campaign against the Yemeni group was another expensive but inconclusive American military engagement in the region.

The Houthis shot down several American MQ-9 Reaper drones and continued to fire at naval ships in the Red Sea, including an American aircraft carrier. And the U.S. strikes burned through weapons and munitions at a rate of about $1 billion in the first month alone.

It did not help that two $67 million F/A-18 Super Hornets from America’s flagship aircraft carrier tasked with conducting strikes against the Houthis accidentally tumbled off the carrier into the sea.

By then, Mr. Trump had had enough.
 
US or Saudi drone downed in Yemen. Saudi drone seems more likely given deal with US

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Persian Gulf said:
it's from a NYT article:


When he approved a campaign to reopen shipping in the Red Sea by bombing the Houthi militant group into submission, President Trump wanted to see results within 30 days of the initial strikes two months ago.

By Day 31, Mr. Trump, ever leery of drawn-out military entanglements in the Middle East, demanded a progress report, according to administration officials.

But the results were not there. The United States had not even established air superiority over the Houthis. Instead, what was emerging after 30 days of a stepped-up campaign against the Yemeni group was another expensive but inconclusive American military engagement in the region.

The Houthis shot down several American MQ-9 Reaper drones and continued to fire at naval ships in the Red Sea, including an American aircraft carrier. And the U.S. strikes burned through weapons and munitions at a rate of about $1 billion in the first month alone.

It did not help that two $67 million F/A-18 Super Hornets from America’s flagship aircraft carrier tasked with conducting strikes against the Houthis accidentally tumbled off the carrier into the sea.

By then, Mr. Trump had had enough.
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I have seen evidence of various strikes inside Yemen on Social Media with explanation of their nature (i.e., what was used and how it happened) but I don't want to drag this conversation based on what some journalists claim. The Houthi might have serious defenses but they could bring down MQ9s at best. Trump is NOT a warhawk, he is interested in business. He has convinced the Houthi to dial down anti-shipping activity in the Red Sea which seems to be the case and he will visit some countries in the Middle East soon. The agreement in question makes sense given his plans.
 
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Persian Gulf said:
true, maybe they meant F-18s
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Original article is from the Je.. New York Times where a US official is quoted that F-16's were used. I'm thinking US "officials" in national security centric position should know the difference between an F-18 and F-16.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
No but we still have F-16s at certain bases.

Knowing where some of those bases are located, I am skeptical that any F-16s have been involved.
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Correct. US didn't use land base fighters because they don't want that host country on the receiving end of a Houthi missile. All USN and Diego Garcia bombers.
 
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You can feel the shift with Trump's administration towards Israel He'll still sell them weapons and so on but If Trump can get a deal with Palestinians he will recognize a two state solution and Bibi won't be able to do a thing about it.

He's going to get a deal with Iran and Israel is going to throw a cht fit.
 
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SolarWarden said:
Correct. US didn't use land base fighters because they don't want that host country on the receiving end of a Houthi missile. All USN and Diego Garcia bombers.
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Don't forget which countries those 16s would have to fly over as well.
 
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