Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[hydrabadi_arab]

1000 years old democratic tradition lmao

 

[Jazzbot]

This is partly why I'm getting sick and tired of the PTI

I like I.K, he always did his best for Pakistan and I hope he gets out and lives his life in peace

But the PTI is simply not fit to be anywhere near power in Pakistan, I think the state was right to put it's foot down, these people are dangerous for the country in this form and outside of IK, none of them are trustworthy

We desperately need a new political system, our parties are rubbish with the same faces for decades on end


Democracy isn't right for Pakistan, the politicians are poor, the parties and rubbish and the population are easily led idiots

We need a China type system to bring gradual order and change



Democracy would have destroyed China and allowed it's enemies to control the country and people through lackeys
It's only the one state Chinese system that China was able to achieve what it has

It's the same for Pakistan

WoW.

And PMLN, PPP, JUI, MQM, ANP are fit to be in power in Pakistan, even after decades of corruption and what not.

You lot is the reason behind all the problems we have in Pakistan.

Also worth noting that every tom, d!ck and harry is easily associated with PTI when it suit you. When was Moeed Pirzada ever part of PTI in any capacity? But likes of Hussain Haqqani, Nasir Butt etc. are always fine even though they had been or are active members of PPP / PMLN.

What hypocrisy is this?

 

[Aggregate]

Good post!
And one thing people don't understand fully: The bailing out of Pakistan by the rich GCC Arabs and even by the Chinese is near exhaustion and thus we have this brutal 'hybrid' form of government where the focus is on reviving the economy. People don't know how close Pakistan was to a financial 'default' barely 2-3 years ago with all its consequences. But then the expat Pakistanis, especially in the richer Western countries, were in their La La Land of Nero Playing the Flute while the Rome would burn.
The path forward is clear in my head: A stable system for at least next 15-20 years with focus on reviving the economy. Pakistan is not like one more of the dozens of poor, corrupt countries of the world: Pakistan has been facing a real powerful, mortal enemy for decades and we have just seen what that enemy is capable of and intends to do. There is no room for complacency left. The begging bowl is being broken but not by Pakistan but by Pakistan's erstwhile benefactors themselves now.

IK was simply the biggest mistake of the establishment. The establishment was also in the same la la land of his speeches. Their eyes only opened up once the guy was handed over the power and they realized what they have done.

It was their mistake and its better to let them take care of it. Woh bhe kaanon kou haath lagate hounge, never to do this again. Ans yes, right now its mostly the people with foreign passports who have no stakes in Pakistan, who are making the loudest noises. Its not 2022 and Most in the Pakistanis do not care about him anymore, today.

 

[r3alist]

Yes, we have many goodies on the way - not pertinent to discuss here. But rest assured this is one gap we can easily fill.

It is being understood that the drones that Pakistan deployed were very far off from the higher tier ones, probably knowing that this would just be a short-lived skirmish therefore what is the use in exposing too much ....and already with the knowledge of downing multiple aircraft.

I am not exactly a technical nerd when it comes to military hardware, but even I may take more of an interest in how the Chinese fifth gen stealth capabilities coupled with all that electronic warfare, interconnected on the cloud, AI assisted, machine learning synthesized capability with paf tactics will manifest


India will have never seen anything like it, they may need to start their own h1b visa program to attract the best talent to help, thanks

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Pakistan

I think these days, this sort of attitude will not take Pakistan very far with the gulf Arabs.

The gulf Arabs, fundamentally are invested into the Western system, the west is also invested into India, therefore there is a mutual mutual association of interests

Furthermore, the Arabs seem intent on rent seeking from the economic prosperity of the West and other growth engines to secure their own futures, and India is a significant part of that portfolio, therefore in return they will have to accommodate Indian workers.


Finally, the Arabs are not really interested in notions of Islamic or Muslim favouriteism, in fact it's not just hard business but also a business that is not disruptive to their internal stability. Pakistan, after all is willing to go very strategically deep with turkey, which is a rival to the Saudis, why should the Saudis listen to Pakistani concerns?

These days, the economic connection of the gulf Nations to Pakistan is used to influence Pakistan and leverage over it. Over time, the ultimate answer is and always has been to develop your own internal market and diversify

This!!!!!!!...........forget trying to curry favour with the gulfis, NO good will come from it. Just develop and make Pakistan strong and successful in all fields. If we can develop our military to the point it can batter, subdue and castrate an enemy that is 7× bigger than us and has the FULL backing of the west, america, israel and russia then we can DEFINITELY develop our economy to that extent too. That's what us Pakistanis should be working towards.

 

[Meengla]

You also have to kind of look at your own messaging in the third person, is it not conceited and almost verging on the obnoxious to tell the Arabs who they should employ? Again, the Arab ruling monarchies absolutely prioritized internal stability over pretty much most things, they have been quite ruthless in clamping down on any Gaza activism, people have been deported.

I have given credit to the Indian workforce where it was due. But how does that prevent the Pakistani workforce from replacing them eventually especially given the civilizational ties? How does a country like India which is inherently against the Arab Palestinian a long term benefit to the Arab world while the Pakistan is inherently pro the Arab world.
What you and others here are missing is the potential future: Pakistan ups its game in education and talent and tap into the natural affiliation with the Arab world. Why shouldn't Pakistan do that? And, yes, one day the Arab street can become strong enough to exert itself. And I can already tell they are very vocal in supporting Pakistan in the ongoing conflict with India and I bet many of them have significant positions in their respective societies and they could influence hiring, firing and contracts and businesses; you are taking 'the street' part too literally, my friend.

 

[r3alist]

IK was simply the biggest mistake of the establishment. The establishment was also in the same la la land of his speeches. Their eyes only opened up once the guy was handed over the power and they realized what they have done.

It was their mistake and its better to let them take care of it. Woh bhe kaanon kou haath lagate hounge, never to do this again. Ans yes, right now its mostly the people with foreign passports who have no stakes in Pakistan, who are making the loudest noises. Its not 2022 and Most in the Pakistanis do not care about him anymore, today.

Let's also not forget, the general population would have fed Imran khans boldness and calculation, so there is a point here about political majority, and understanding limits and where you might be going too far.

To some extent, on reflection, is it not some what of an excessive expectation to think that you can overhaul the entire system in months and years.

A real mature party, will simply look to learn recalibrate and go again next time with more efficacy.

PTI, do they not pride themselves on being a more capable bunch?

 

[Sharma Ji]

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1000 years old democratic tradition lmao

I just read that article.

Don't like it, but then this is war time (kinda?)

therefore, danda has been do to him.

 

[Jazzbot]

IK was simply the biggest mistake of the establishment. The establishment was also in the same la la land of his speeches. Their eyes only opened up once the guy was handed over the power and they realized what they have done.

It was their mistake and its better to let them take care of it. Woh bhe kaanon kou haath lagate hounge, never to do this again. Ans yes, right now its mostly the people with foreign passports who have no stakes in Pakistan, who are making the loudest noises. Its not 2022 and Most in the Pakistanis do not care about him anymore, today.

And Establishment has fixed their biggest mistake by robbing entire election in worst rigging in the history of Pakistan.

Now that all the decades old, tried and tested, reliable and certified crooks are back at the helm, thanks to the Establishment - I hope you are finally happy that Establishment has not only fixed their biggest mistake but has done the country a huge favor.

What would you call this master stroke by Establishment? Biggest Achievement?

 

[Khan090]

The decoys were so realistic, they fitted them with real weapons, real radios, real EW suites, real pilots...

Yes!
As that decoys were imported from an other dimension India.
They were Rafales from another dimension used as decoys in this dimension as decoys.
Our India didn't lost any of its rafales, those all were decoys from the other dimension.
Still any doubt?

 

[吃瓜群众]

Hey buddy, everything you're saying doesn't make sense at all. India's dream is to break through South Asia and find a foothold in the world for its vast population. Their country will try to challenge China throughout its entire lifecycle, don't think that the United States will not know about using India. India knows that they exploit each other. National competition is inherently the law of the jungle, and the Confucian philosophy of East Asia is inherently extremely hypocritical. Look at Japan/South Korea, which country in East Asia deeply believes in friendship? On the contrary, the brutal wars in East Asia are incomparable to those in South Asia. The deaths of tens of millions of people in our region are the result of fire and bloodshed，Talking about friendship and peace with Indians is like playing the qin to a cow. They only believe that the fist is the truth.

I understand brother, I want him to know what their own problems are, and our Chinese thinking is to give up illusions and prepare for battle

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

"French can't make good aircraft" narration

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So it's france's fault that the indian Rafaels got shot down.........lol

 

[mshan61]

 

[Reichmarshal]

I dont think so - no need for this given Pakistan will have pools of people already trained on Turkish platforms.

bs post by the greek

 

[Aggregate]

WoW.

And PMLN, PPP, JUI, MQM, ANP are fit to be in power in Pakistan, even after decades of corruption and what not.

You lot is the reason behind all the problems we have in Pakistan.

for all this shouting of Corruption, you have been able to prove a 10K SAR case against NS. But yes, you will then say that those judgements are fake. On the other hand, all watch and corruption cases, goGi running away, 190 Million GBP Graft case, Buzdar doing appointments for bribes, Saqib nisar running away with Dam funds, is all ploy against IK in your books. He is innocent, even if he is proven guilty and others are guilty until proven innocent just because you like his face and not the others. PTI was busy making fun of Kalsoom Nawaz for 2 months calling her dignosis fake until she passed away. Yet you people think you are the best judges of character.

the guy was the biggest laadala ever of Establishment and he did the same and worse in his own time, when it comes to going after his opponents. I have yet to see PMLN doing things that IK did, like picking up oppnents' daughters and throwing them in a death cells on fake cases, or making fake narcotics cases on them, or holding them up from offering funerals of their family members (and mocking them for it), or joining hands with dictators like Musharraf, to try and hang an elected PM. He called Army chief the 'father of nation' and offered Lifetime extension to Gen. Bajwa. And now he's claiming to be anti Establishment. Tomorrow he will do the same again if he gets power, 100% guaranteed.

PTI president is someone that IK called "Punjab's biggest dakoo'. Yet you people have the audacity to call others corrupt.

No, its people like you who are the problem. You are busy in cult following without holding your own leader accountable for his corruption, and abuses of legal system. If you wanna blame others then hold your own leader accountable first and the talk about others. We are glad to be rid of that weasel, things are getting better and you can all keep hugging the pictures of your 2 faced leader all you want, nobody cares.