Attack on Army School bus on Quetta-Khuzdar corridor— 6 Children martyred 43 injured.

[Musings]

Kese bhool sakta hun, meri first ID was blocked due to my argument of rangers picking up Urdu speaking boys and torturing them, when MQM was the wall between Taliban/BLA and Karachi, MQM could easily be contained as mushy showed us, not only that they would've kept these Barbaric Pathans/Baloch/Afghans and other Sindhi lootare and saraiki in check in Karachi, after MQM Karachi went to shit, crimes increase 10 fold, yeah no more bori band lashen but that was mostly fight between MQM/ANP/Sipa Sahaba type groups. And of course I will never forget that I used to get called Indian, Bangali , Bihari , etc than I decided these Baloch/Pathan/Punjabi/Sindhi mere loray pe... salaay uncivilized jahil ganwaar humain insult kerte hai but reality is that Pakistan stands on its feet because of Urdu speaking people. We have created Karachi for what it is, and when city is develop aa gaye BSDK haq jamane, aur Phir sab ko Pakistan yaad a jata hai, but a Urdu speaking family can't go live in peace in KPK or Interior without been harassed, MQM was the necessary evil to keep much much bigger evil in check, now enjoy Gandi roads, ubalte naale, crazy rise in mobile , extortion, kidnappings , and all other kind of crimes.

Stop the racism or I will permanently ban you. I don’t mind anger or frustration but cut the blatant racism now

 

[SteppeWolff]

(Me) who was once a proud Pakistani

So you aint a Pakistani anymore? So why are you giving us long ass racist sermons? Especially in times when Pakistan’s integrity and internal faultlines are being tested?

Counterterrorism in Balochistan is a long haul. Its 44% of Pakistan and very harsh terrain. And it would need a full spectrum plan, not just kinetic ops. I hope our leadership has the cojones to do what's needed internally and take the fight into the enemy's home ( India ).

 

[Starlord]

Ab konsi adjective ke Pakistani ho?

 

[Starlord]

So you aint a Pakistani anymore? So why are you giving us long ass racist sermons? Especially in times when Pakistan’s integrity and internal faultlines are being tested?

Counterterrorism in Balochistan is a long haul. Its 44% of Pakistan and very harsh terrain. And it would need a full spectrum plan, not just kinetic ops. I hope our leadership has the cojones to do what's needed internally and take the fight into the enemy's home ( India ).

Still a Pakistani by password and CNIC, ab kia photocopy send karon ? I am not giving anyone sermons nor It will have any impact on anyone, i know that much... I am arguing from a realistic point of view rather than fake patriotism and sab changa si view.. if Pakistani's wants to bury their heads in sand and think its all India, CIA, MOSSAD, Aliens, Hydra, Thanos be my guest, I can bet that with this attitude and without addressing the real cause you will keep seeing attacks over and over, few months will have peace than violence will start again and cycle repeats.

 

[Starlord]

Stop the racism or I will permanently ban you. I don’t mind anger or frustration but cut the blatant racism now

Sure, no more of "Racism". warna ban kardo gay thread se..

 

[RescueRanger]

Still a Pakistani by password and CNIC, ab kia photocopy send karon ? I am not giving anyone sermons nor It will have any impact on anyone, i know that much... I am arguing from a realistic point of view rather than fake patriotism and sab changa si view.. if Pakistani's wants to bury their heads in sand and think its all India, CIA, MOSSAD, Aliens, Hydra, Thanos be my guest, I can bet that with this attitude and without addressing the real cause you will keep seeing attacks over and over, few months will have peace than violence will start again and cycle repeats.

What you propose is tantamount to ethnic cleansing. Thanks for the advice, but NO thanks.

 

[El Sidd]

View attachment 122898

Ye Pakistan inka naam hai but ye teri pehchaan hai.

You cannot run away from it. Kuch bhi karle koi bhi parcha bana le. Born in Karachi sari zindagi chalna ha sath. embrace it not deface it

 

[Starlord]

No body is banning you, no body needs to. You don't need to be a "martyr" for the cause. But discuss the current topic with the context focused around Balochistan and Quetta without a history lesson regarding Karachi's security issues.

Bhai sahab 3rd ID hai PDF pe, buhat purane chawal hai hum... ab tu username bhi khatam ho gaye hai, aur koi extra email bhi nai hai register ke liye.. I have no intention to be a Martyr, aap log discuss karen Balochistan ke halaat shayed dua hai Discussion se koi hal nikal jaye.

 

[Starlord]

Ye Pakistan inka naam hai but ye teri pehchaan hai.

but meri community ko tu Mili naghmo mai bhi jaga nai mili, ab kia rona royen aur kis se royen ? college mai sunte the ka America take over ker le ga Pakistan ab tu woh ummeed bhi gaye.. (mazaak hai serious nai le lena) I want Pakistan to remain independent and shadbaan whatever shaadban means.

You don't have to tell me that who I am and what my identity is, Tampa ki sarko pe Aaroh aur Atif Aslam ke gaane tez awaz mai sunte hai, logo ko Fakker se batate hai Pakistani hai Indian bol ke insult nai karo...

 

[SteppeWolff]

Still a Pakistani by password and CNIC, ab kia photocopy send karon ? I am not giving anyone sermons nor It will have any impact on anyone, i know that much... I am arguing from a realistic point of view rather than fake patriotism and sab changa si view.. if Pakistani's wants to bury their heads in sand and think its all India, CIA, MOSSAD, Aliens, Hydra, Thanos be my guest, I can bet that with this attitude and without addressing the real cause you will keep seeing attacks over and over, few months will have peace than violence will start again and cycle repeats.

So what is your enlightened counterterrorism strategy "mein fuhrer"?

Send the second biggest ethnicity of Pakistan ( Pashtuns ) and Baloch to the Re-education camps or ethnically cleanse them? Just cause you have a bias against them being from Karachi?

Pakistan for all its faults still isnt a genocider state and this course of action would just take us to speed run into destruction and chaos. No thanks.

 

[RescueRanger]

Bhai sahab 3rd ID hai PDF pe, buhat purane chawal hai hum... ab tu username bhi khatam ho gaye hai, aur koi extra email bhi nai hai register ke liye.. I have no intention to be a Martyr, aap log discuss karen Balochistan ke halaat shayed dua hai Discussion se koi hal nikal jaye.

so far I have been very nice and entertained your point of view because everyone is entitled to share their opinions.

But you are a ethno-facist, and have no understanding of the issues of Baloch and Pashtun people nor how counter-terrorism works.

You want to implement a Sri Lanka strategy inside Pakistan? With hostile forces on your southern, western and eastern borders? Respectfully I know you are passionate about Pakistan, but are you insane?

You know what such a move would lead to? Please think beyond Karachi. KARACHI is a "Part" or Pakistan, not all of Pakistan.

 

[El Sidd]

but meri community ko tu Mili naghmo mai bhi jaga nai mili, ab kia rona royen aur kis se royen ? college mai sunte the ka America take over ker le ga Pakistan ab tu woh ummeed bhi gaye.. (mazaak hai serious nai le lena) I want Pakistan to remain independent and shadbaan whatever shaadban means.

apki community bohat vast ha. a supernation theory. Al Muhajirun. Mass migration happened in all administrative units. this community gets a good mention at the start of the Pakistani mythos. Naturally one would imagine that the Muhajireen would cast themselves in the super identity which would come from fusing in all existing and new ones, aka, Pakistani.

Punjab key bangal key jawan chal paray
Sindhi, Blochi, aur Pathan chal paray

Ghar bar chor kay sar-o-saman chal paray
Sath apnay muhajer liye Quran chal paray

Aur Quid-e-millat bhi chaley hone ko qurbaan
Aye Quaid-e-Azam tera ehsan ha ehsan

 

[Starlord]

So what is your enlightened counterterrorism strategy "mein fuhrer"?

Send the second biggest ethnicity of Pakistan ( Pashtuns ) and Baloch to the Re-education camps or ethnically cleanse them? Just cause you have a bias against them being from Karachi?

Pakistan for all its faults still isnt a genocider state and this course of action would just take us to speed run into destruction and chaos. No thanks.

My solution is indeed reductional camps but its part of a broader strategy, not just put their kids there but make it mandatory, Americans have put Japs in Internment camps as well yet no world will say America is a Genocidal country, at least not to their face.. and who told you putting kids in schools is Genocide or Ethnic cleansing ? I am not asking for extermination or controlling their birth etc
There are programs in countries like Norway/Sweden where they put the new immigrants into schools to help them integrate with Norwegian/Swedish society, you put kids of Baloch/Pathans into these schools and if they at least learn 1-2 thing like not to kill or hate the rest of Pakistan that's a win to me..

as far as Pakistan is not a Genocider yes i agree we are not, we are not Israel... that's why I said educational camps not extermination camps, do I look like a Hitler or Netanyahu or Modi to you?

 

[RescueRanger]

My solution is indeed reductional camps but its part of a broader strategy, not just put their kids there but make it mandatory, Americans have put Japs in Internment camps as well yet no world will say America is a Genocidal country, at least not to their face.. and who told you putting kids in schools is Genocide or Ethnic cleansing ? I am not asking for extermination or controlling their birth etc
There are programs in countries like Norway/Sweden where they put the new immigrants into schools to help them integrate with Norwegian/Swedish society, you put kids of Baloch/Pathans into these schools and if they at least learn 1-2 thing like not to kill or hate the rest of Pakistan that's a win to me..

as far as Pakistan is not a Genocider yes i agree we are not, we are not Israel... that's why I said educational camps not extermination camps, do I look like a Hitler or Netanyahu to you?

We need to do with Balochistan what we implemented in Wana and parts of Swat and Fata. If it can work there it can work here.

Technical colleges, where youth can learn citizenship, skills that will guarantee them skilled labour such as bricklayer, electrician, joiner, plumber, labourer, mechanic, office jobs, driver etc.

 

[Starlord]

apki community bohat vast ha. a supernation theory. Al Muhajirun. Mass migration happened in all administrative units. this community gets a good mention at the start of the Pakistani mythos. Naturally one would imagine that the Muhajireen would cast themselves in the super identity which would come from fusing in all existing and new ones, aka, Pakistani.

Punjab key bangal key jawan chal paray
Sindhi, Blochi, aur Pathan chal paray

Ghar bar chor kay sar-o-saman chal paray
Sath apnay muhajer liye Quran chal paray

Aur Quid-e-millat bhi chaley hone ko qurbaan
Aye Quaid-e-Azam tera ehsan ha ehsan

Its called earning your place in the new country that people give everything for, a simple history search will tell you that people who left India was push away by the so called Birathar Pakistani's, the people did hard work, develop a city which brings rozi roti to the rest of Pakistan.
this is not the thread about me discussing what Urdu speaking did or what they have to go through, i was only drawing parallels that if Urdu speaking, Bangali, Saraki , Sindhi despite been gareeb and pasmanda have no resort to blowing up schools, kids , markets, masajids than these forbidden to name 2 ethnic groups can too..
chalo ek aur example deta hun...

Do you know Islamic history? what happened to Rasool Allah ? early Muslims and their families ? not one of them raise their sword towards a innocent mushrik... reflect on this, because if we use our B/P people logics Muhammad SAW and his followers should just kill every women/elderly/children that exists in Makkah.

Ab khuda ka wasta yeh na bol dena ke P/B logo ne Rasool Allah aur early Muslims se zayda takleef uthai hai..