Attack on Army School bus on Quetta-Khuzdar corridor— 6 Children martyred 43 injured.

We need to do with Balochistan what we implemented in Wana and parts of Swat and Fata. If it can work there it can work here.

Technical colleges, where youth can learn citizenship, skills that will guarantee them skilled labour such as bricklayer, electrician, joiner, plumber, labourer, mechanic, office jobs, driver etc.
Han yeh hui na sahi baat, I remember watching documentary where captured fighters were forced/convinced to build the schools they blow up, but again aap us ko technical college bol den ya reductional camps baat tu ek hi hai.. Tomatoe tamatar same thing.
 
Its called earning your place in the new country that people give everything for, a simple history search will tell you that people who left India was push away by the so called Birathar Pakistani's, the people did hard work, develop a city which brings rozi roti to the rest of Pakistan.
this is not the thread about me discussing what Urdu speaking did or what they have to go through, i was only drawing parallels that if Urdu speaking, Bangali, Saraki , Sindhi despite been gareeb and pasmanda have no resort to blowing up schools, kids , markets, masajids than these forbidden to name 2 ethnic groups can too..
chalo ek aur example deta hun...

Do you know Islamic history? what happened to Rasool Allah ? early Muslims and their families ? not one of them raise their sword towards a innocent mushrik... reflect on this, because if we use our B/P people logics Muhammad SAW and his followers should just kill every women/elderly/children that exists in Makkah.

Ab khuda ka wasta yeh na bol dena ke P/B logo ne Rasool Allah aur early Muslims se zayda takleef uthai hai..

You would not suspect the first suicide bomber in the world to be a Sri Lankan woman either.

Now you can argue why there is no self check mechanism in the subset of the society but you cannot generalise it. If it were so there would be no Japan as everyone there would have committed suicide the day they debut the comment section.
 
You would not suspect the first suicide bomber in the world to be a Sri Lankan woman either.

Now you can argue why there is no self check mechanism in the subset of the society but you cannot generalise it. If it were so there would be no Japan as everyone there would have committed suicide the day they debut the comment section.
I know the history of Tamil Tigers and their attacks, that is why I mentioned we need something along the lines of Sri Lanka model, yes its hard because SL is a Island but we are not.
You see for 1.8 years Israel is bombing Gaza, their 1200 people killed and so far 54,000 people brutally murdered, there were few hundred/thousand voices who initially protested the way, than become large protests to end war in Gaza because of the hostage deals, so Israeli's don't give a RAT's A$$ for children in Gaza, I generalize them by calling them a lunatic barbaric hopeless nation, and I come to that conclusion based on a principle not emotions... I used the same bit modified principle to create my opinion about B/P people in Pakistan, is it racists ? Yes, Is it unorthodox ? Yes, but I am clear in my opinion, not this fake Sindhi balochi pathan punjabi bhai bhai... mauqa mile tu ek dosre ki gardane uttar ker rakh den and wont shed a tear. This is called fake badboodar patriotism, zabardasti ki unity...
 
Apki lines bohat lambi hoti hai. apke office ke samne pora shehar abad rehta ha
iss mein sb se bra qasoor hamari govt ka hota hai.
hr kuch arsy baad govt koi kherati scheme start kr deti hai.
unki registration hamari zima daari nhi hoti lekin jb bhi unn idaron ne ghareeb awam ko tarkhana ho keh dety hein nadra ne aap ka card block kia hua hai.
aur in lines mein 40% log wahi sarkari kherati idaron ke sataye hoty hein.
Isky ilawa awam ki backwardness bhi eik waja hai. 20 25 saal age ho jaati hai logon ki aam routine mein lekin unki koi registration nhi hoti govt ke paas.
aisy mamlat mein boht ziada ehtiat krni prti hai, qu ke koi ghair mulki bhi ho sakta hai aisa bnda.
Kabhi kabhar koi employee awam ki halat pr taras kha kr koi aisa case process kr de aur unfortunately bnda ghair mulki nikal aaye to DEO, Office Incharge, attester/lumberdar etc sb ko FIA le jaata hai utha ke.
hm employees ko aksr paani peeny ka bhi moqa mushkil se milta hai garmion mein.
Winters mein awam razayion mein hoti hai aur hum subah sawery office pohnch kr haath masalty rehty hein. koi applicant hi nhi hoty. lekin summer mein awam saans bhi nhi leny deti
 
Log sarkari nokri krte he hain ke Kuch krna na parry aur pait bharta rhe😠😠
aksr sarkari nokri mazdoori se ziada tough hoti hai.
lekin faida ye hota hai ke job security hoti hai jo mazdoori mein nhi hoti.
Aur sarkari nokri mein apna eman bachana bhi bra mushkil hota hai.
apny relatives hi khilaf ho jaaty hein aksr agr inko favor na do to
 
Apki lines bohat lambi hoti hai. apke office ke samne pora shehar abad rehta ha
hum se hum khud hi khush nhi hein, awam kia hogi.
lekin hamary aur awam ke darmiyan eik baat common hai dono hi kehty hein
"sakhti chaati jo ithy aaye!"
iss idary mein naa bahar waly khush hein na andar waly Alham du lillah
 
Pakistan armed forces should now immediately start a big military offensive on these terrorists and their sponsors across borders.
Now this long run bloodshed should be answered in a way it is actually understood by the coward enemy.
While Pakistan govt needs to fight a diplomatic case of this Indian sponsored terrorism in Pakistan at all world forums.
Pakistan needs strong leadership at this time, but unfortunately we have no either,
Bilawal is good in logical and effective communications at international level but still un-reliable as he is the son of a Zardari
 
iss mein sb se bra qasoor hamari govt ka hota hai.
hr kuch arsy baad govt koi kherati scheme start kr deti hai.
unki registration hamari zima daari nhi hoti lekin jb bhi unn idaron ne ghareeb awam ko tarkhana ho keh dety hein nadra ne aap ka card block kia hua hai.
aur in lines mein 40% log wahi sarkari kherati idaron ke sataye hoty hein.
Isky ilawa awam ki backwardness bhi eik waja hai. 20 25 saal age ho jaati hai logon ki aam routine mein lekin unki koi registration nhi hoti govt ke paas.
aisy mamlat mein boht ziada ehtiat krni prti hai, qu ke koi ghair mulki bhi ho sakta hai aisa bnda.
Kabhi kabhar koi employee awam ki halat pr taras kha kr koi aisa case process kr de aur unfortunately bnda ghair mulki nikal aaye to DEO, Office Incharge, attester/lumberdar etc sb ko FIA le jaata hai utha ke.
hm employees ko aksr paani peeny ka bhi moqa mushkil se milta hai garmion mein.
Winters mein awam razayion mein hoti hai aur hum subah sawery office pohnch kr haath masalty rehty hein. koi applicant hi nhi hoty. lekin summer mein awam saans bhi nhi leny deti
Hukoomat scheme isiliye nikalti ha ke ye Jo 25 25 saal k laundry laparhay ghom rahe ha inki documentation to ho. baqi social services verification ka workload jaiz hai. ye margin of error kitna ha k ghair mulki under the radar slip hojaye? Baqi idarati umoor or masail ka me sirf apke director se keh sakta ho kabhi No Bolney ki himmat bhi karlen hukomat ko
hum se hum khud hi khush nhi hein, awam kia hogi.
lekin hamary aur awam ke darmiyan eik baat common hai dono hi kehty hein
"sakhti chaati jo ithy aaye!"
iss idary mein naa bahar waly khush hein na andar waly Alham du lillah

har bare idaray ya private company ka yehi haal ha. Middle East, Europe, US, Canada k me personal zimedari pe keh sakta ho k wo apse gaye guzre hain
 
My solution is indeed reductional camps but its part of a broader strategy, not just put their kids there but make it mandatory, Americans have put Japs in Internment camps as well yet no world will say America is a Genocidal country, at least not to their face.. and who told you putting kids in schools is Genocide or Ethnic cleansing ? I am not asking for extermination or controlling their birth etc
There are programs in countries like Norway/Sweden where they put the new immigrants into schools to help them integrate with Norwegian/Swedish society, you put kids of Baloch/Pathans into these schools and if they at least learn 1-2 thing like not to kill or hate the rest of Pakistan that's a win to me..

as far as Pakistan is not a Genocider yes i agree we are not, we are not Israel... that's why I said educational camps not extermination camps, do I look like a Hitler or Netanyahu or Modi to you?
You say Baloch and Pashtuns need to learn "not to hate" Pakistan but forcing them into "re education camps" will only breed resentment. National unity isn’t built by crushing dissent, it’s built by listening to it, addressing grievances, and offering inclusion with dignity. What Pakistan needs to do is to choose diakogue over coercion, development over militarization, and respect over domination. The real solution isn’t camps. It’s justice, autonomy, and inclusion. You don’t unify a country by locking up its children. You do it by earning their trust and giving them economic opportunities and skills ( technical/vocational etc ).

And bringing up Japanese internment camps as a defense is flawed and frankly extremely dumn. The U.S. internment of Japanese Americans during WWII is now widely condemned as a racist and unconstitutional violation of human rights. It's taught in American schools as a national shame, not a model to follow. You want to repeat those same crimes under a different flag?

If you want to be a ethno fascist that's your choice, but atleast bring better arguments.
 
You say Baloch and Pashtuns need to learn "not to hate" Pakistan but forcing them into "re education camps" will only breed resentment. National unity isn’t built by crushing dissent, it’s built by listening to it, addressing grievances, and offering inclusion with dignity. What Pakistan needs to do is to choose diakogue over coercion, development over militarization, and respect over domination. The real solution isn’t camps. It’s justice, autonomy, and inclusion. You don’t unify a country by locking up its children. You do it by earning their trust and giving them economic opportunities and skills ( technical/vocational etc ).

And bringing up Japanese internment camps as a defense is flawed and frankly extremely dumn. The U.S. internment of Japanese Americans during WWII is now widely condemned as a racist and unconstitutional violation of human rights. It's taught in American schools as a national shame, not a model to follow. You want to repeat those same crimes under a different flag?

If you want to be a ethno fascist that's your choice, but atleast bring better arguments.
You read this thread title right? we are in a thread where a bus full of young kids was bombed, you still think there is room for more resentment ? remember APS ? I guess the Pakistani's have forgot them kids only remember for jazbati songs.

You tried dialog, appeasement, reconciliation for over 2 decades now, what results did that bring you? from 2002-2025, we had few years of relative peace and from 2020 onwards terrorism is on the rise again. I argued that you can build them schools, roads, nice markets, hospitals they will blow them up again and the " bechare " log will not rise up nor raise a voice against the TTP/BLA, we have seen this again and again.. How many more Pakistani's have to die before the B/P people realize that the fault lies within? rather than Truck ki batti ke tarah bas India/CIA/MOSSAD pe blame kerte raho? have you seen such behavior in other develop or civilized country ? how many Norwegians have taken money from Russians and blow up their own people? how many Russians take CIA money to kill their own kids ? But we have countless incidents of Punjabi labors identified and executed and not a Chun from the Baloch people.. This is peak Resentment within Pakistan and if this hasn't stopped using Iron fist and educational camps you will never peace in Pakistan EVER, no dua aur wazifay or 12 page ki reports will bring peace and stability to the country, only hard decisions and strong resolve can take a nation out of difficult times, we show some balls when we start kicking Afghans, now its time to build highly secure camps and make it mandatory for every Pashtoon/Baloch kid to go there, they will be educated, no need to turn it into prison, China has done similar to Uhighurs, and see the results not a single suicide attack or separatist movement exists, Uhighurs were Chinese citizens too but they were put in these educational camps because sometimes you need to do to protect the rest of the country.

Only liberal and far left see the internment camps as shame, there are millions of people in US who would agree to make more such camps for Latino's or Muslims, and even if US or any other country does that world will not blink an eye over it, Muslims in India are living under constant fear, and yet their Muslims are not violent towards their Govt, no resistance or fight... while we are Muslims, living in a Islamic country, yet we have B/P people slaughtering their own people over religion and racism... If you reflect on things by removing the lens of fake Patriotism and zabardasti ki unity things will get super clear.

I am ethno fascist for saying that govt should build reductional camps and make B/P people's kids to get education there and learn basic manners and decency and real Patriotism, learn to live their country rather than this fake persona, yeah we all Pakistani's blah blah as they say but deep down we know TTP/BLA has full support of people and locals because without their help no Terrorist Organization can last against Strong will of state. ISPR ne gana banaya tha yaad hai ? Mujhe dushman ke bacho ko Pardhana hai... I think its time to do just that, you don't want to call them Dushman? call them hostile people, what matter is their next generation raha-e-rast, because if not done than be prepared for next generation breed of Terrorist, with much more brutal tactics and effective.
 
If their was no violence coming from Baloch and pashtuns then multiple options are on the table

I might disagree with someone from Balochistan about a specific topic, but as long as they are decent people then we should endeavour to talk, discuss options, funding for schools, hospitals, etc etc etc
Same goes for pashtun tribals


The PROBLEM however is that these people are violent
Not just violent, but murderous and unislamic and willing to commit horrendous atrocities

From targeting schools full of children
To dressing up as women in niqab
To pulling of travellers and shooting them


Even if you try to give them economic opportunities, which is what CPEC ultimately is
Their jahilat and violent behaviour make investment and FDI incredibly difficult
And the security costs hugh
They pay no taxes but demand spending
They don't pay bills but demand electricity and gas


We can talk about anything and everything, but their needs to be at least some basic humanity and Muslim behaviour amongst these people that means we can talk and make progress and not just talk to killers who will slit the throats of children of they could
 
Hukoomat scheme isiliye nikalti ha ke ye Jo 25 25 saal k laundry laparhay ghom rahe ha inki documentation to ho. baqi social services verification ka workload jaiz hai. ye margin of error kitna ha k ghair mulki under the radar slip hojaye? Baqi idarati umoor or masail ka me sirf apke director se keh sakta ho kabhi No Bolney ki himmat bhi karlen hukomat ko
contrary to your opinion 25 year children registration have nothing to do with these govt charity schemes. There is no above 18 registration condition to enroll in these charity schemes.
Even NADRA have nothing to with these schemes mostly.
All other concerned department's officials just push the burden on us just to get themselves free from bothering to teach the un-educated public about real technical problem. They just say NADRA has blocked your data/card etc, go and get it unblocked from NADRA, as we are free enough to play hide and seek with public data.
And we even sometimes meet70-80 children who have not been registered, nor a single family member (parents, siblings, children, spouse) and they even have grand children.
I sometimes wonder how they managed to live this far without the basic registration. (mobiles, electricity, lands, jobs etc all require some registration).
Now problem is that we can't treat them hardly due to their age and our respect for senior citizens, but handling them softly can definitely give us hard time.
And as for your opinion about error rate it occurs mostly for our pashtoon brothers.
As it is almost impossible to distinguish between
 
contrary to your opinion 25 year children registration have nothing to do with these govt charity schemes. There is no above 18 registration condition to enroll in these charity schemes.
Even NADRA have nothing to with these schemes mostly.
All other concerned department's officials just push the burden on us just to get themselves free from bothering to teach the un-educated public about real technical problem. They just say NADRA has blocked your data/card etc, go and get it unblocked from NADRA, as we are free enough to play hide and seek with public data.
And we even sometimes meet70-80 children who have not been registered, nor a single family member (parents, siblings, children, spouse) and they even have grand children.
I sometimes wonder how they managed to live this far without the basic registration. (mobiles, electricity, lands, jobs etc all require some registration).
Now problem is that we can't treat them hardly due to their age and our respect for senior citizens, but handling them softly can definitely give us hard time.
And as for your opinion about error rate it occurs mostly for our pashtoon brothers.
As it is almost impossible to distinguish between

agar unka beghair NIC k guzara horaha tha to isme koi harj nahi na jurm. ayeeni rooh k mutabiq.

Afghan case me apka department alag nahi. ye to consulate embassy sabka masla ha. Pakistan ko Afghan k sath muhaide krne chaiye data sharing ke.

zara do jumle identity theft pe bhi kehte jatay to meherbani hoti
 

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