Attack on Army School bus on Quetta-Khuzdar corridor— 6 Children martyred 43 injured.

You read this thread title right? we are in a thread where a bus full of young kids was bombed, you still think there is room for more resentment ? remember APS ? I guess the Pakistani's have forgot them kids only remember for jazbati songs.

You tried dialog, appeasement, reconciliation for over 2 decades now, what results did that bring you? from 2002-2025, we had few years of relative peace and from 2020 onwards terrorism is on the rise again. I argued that you can build them schools, roads, nice markets, hospitals they will blow them up again and the " bechare " log will not rise up nor raise a voice against the TTP/BLA, we have seen this again and again.. How many more Pakistani's have to die before the B/P people realize that the fault lies within? rather than Truck ki batti ke tarah bas India/CIA/MOSSAD pe blame kerte raho? have you seen such behavior in other develop or civilized country ? how many Norwegians have taken money from Russians and blow up their own people? how many Russians take CIA money to kill their own kids ? But we have countless incidents of Punjabi labors identified and executed and not a Chun from the Baloch people.. This is peak Resentment within Pakistan and if this hasn't stopped using Iron fist and educational camps you will never peace in Pakistan EVER, no dua aur wazifay or 12 page ki reports will bring peace and stability to the country, only hard decisions and strong resolve can take a nation out of difficult times, we show some balls when we start kicking Afghans, now its time to build highly secure camps and make it mandatory for every Pashtoon/Baloch kid to go there, they will be educated, no need to turn it into prison, China has done similar to Uhighurs, and see the results not a single suicide attack or separatist movement exists, Uhighurs were Chinese citizens too but they were put in these educational camps because sometimes you need to do to protect the rest of the country.

Only liberal and far left see the internment camps as shame, there are millions of people in US who would agree to make more such camps for Latino's or Muslims, and even if US or any other country does that world will not blink an eye over it, Muslims in India are living under constant fear, and yet their Muslims are not violent towards their Govt, no resistance or fight... while we are Muslims, living in a Islamic country, yet we have B/P people slaughtering their own people over religion and racism... If you reflect on things by removing the lens of fake Patriotism and zabardasti ki unity things will get super clear.

I am ethno fascist for saying that govt should build reductional camps and make B/P people's kids to get education there and learn basic manners and decency and real Patriotism, learn to live their country rather than this fake persona, yeah we all Pakistani's blah blah as they say but deep down we know TTP/BLA has full support of people and locals because without their help no Terrorist Organization can last against Strong will of state. ISPR ne gana banaya tha yaad hai ? Mujhe dushman ke bacho ko Pardhana hai... I think its time to do just that, you don't want to call them Dushman? call them hostile people, what matter is their next generation raha-e-rast, because if not done than be prepared for next generation breed of Terrorist, with much more brutal tactics and effective.
Your argument is of rage and fear, not reason. You're asking for collective punishment of entire ethnic groups, children no less and all of it is based on the actions of insurgents, and you're trying to wrap that under the guise of "patriotism" and "security." And what you're advocating for is "state sponsored ethnic persecution". That is not justice. That is fascism.

And citing tragedies like APS to justify internment camps, as if grief licenses moral collapse. But collective trauma is not a green light for collective punishment. APS was a national tragedy, yes; but since when do you avenge murdered children by locking up other children who had nothing to do with it? That’s not strength, that’s cowardice disguised as "policy".

You say Pakistan “tried dialogue for two decades.” What dialogue? Show me where there was sincere, inclusive political engagement, where grievances over missing persons, resource exploitation, military occupation, or denial of rights were genuinely addressed. Throwing aid money into a war torn province while denying people a voice isn’t reconciliation; it’s bribery with boots on their necks. You can’t fix systemic oppression with charity and expect loyalty in return.

Your analogy with Norway and Russia is nonsense. Norway didn’t colonize and exploit a minority region for decades and then wonder why resentment brewed. Russia does have separatist violence in its peripheries, just like India does in Kashmir. The idea that “Muslims in India are calm” is laughably false. What you see there is not peace, it’s fear under the shadow of state violence, lynchings, and second class citizenship. That’s not a model to follow; it’s a warning of what not to become.

And praising China’s Uyghur camps as "successful" is funny. Success by what standard? Silencing an entire culture through digital surveillance, forced labor, sterilization, and indoctrination? That’s not peace, that’s a graveyard of human rights. And if you think the world didn’t blink read the UN reports, read the sanctions, read the condemnations. What you’re celebrating is ethnic cleansing with better branding.

You want to "educate" Baloch and Pashtun kids by removing them from their communities and shoving state propaganda down their throats. That’s not education, that’s brainwashing. The state’s job isn’t to make people blindly loyal, it’s to serve them, protect their rights, and earn their trust. You can’t beat people into patriotism. The more you repress, the more you radicalize.

Your view is not security driven, it's supremacist. You want submission, not unity. You believe only coercion works, because you fear the alternative: accountability, inclusion, equality. That’s not strength. That’s failure masquerading as resolve.

If someone wants to actually solve the grassroots issues of Balochistan and eventually annihilating the insurgency, re education camps would be the last thing they would do, if they are sane.
 
@Starlord

You’re profiling Pashtuns and baloch as violent but I as a Kashmiri Karachi wala remember MQM terrorizing the city for decades, with Altaf Hussein openly declaring allegiance to India? You say Sindhis are peaceful but don’t you recall it was perceived Sindhi persecution of Muhajirs that led to MQM’s popularity in the first place?

How did TTP originate in KP/FATA? When Musharraf allowed a foreign army to invade, kill and rape the Pashtun minority across the border in Afghanistan who are of the same DNA and religion as Pakistan. Pashtuns have a policy of death before disgrace, this is why Afghanistan as strategically stupid as it was refused to hand over bin Laden on Bush’s absolutist terms, and also why many FATA Pashtuns were angry that Islamabad instead of taking a similar stance forced Pakistan to be complicit in this war against their own people and run US supply lines through Pashtun lands.

This is also the same reason Musharraf got blown up by Kashmiris, because Musharraf wanted to accept Kashmir valley as part of India and let the Indians kill and rape Kashmiris as they please. Even Ilyas Kashmiri, the most legendary Kashmiri commander was alienated by Musharraf.

Foreign agencies used TTP to channel this anger and turn disillusioned Pashtuns into useful idiots for Hindutva India, by attacking Pakistan navy strategic assets which had no role in the AfPak area but only threatened Hindu India and Israeli submarines. PTM acted as their political wing. Total failure of Pakistan to take control of the narrative.

You say Pashtun tribals treat their women in a primitive and morally abhorrent manner — don’t you realize that from the perspective of these tribesmen, the way your women parade their bodies to the world and freely mix with random men in cities/uni/school is also primitive and degenerate to them?

The ideologies driving Baloch and Pashtun insurgencies are dissimilar but both stem from the failure of Islamabad to reach out to these communities, and in the case of Pashtuns you have leftist DHA aunties and blue haired f&ggots from Lahori unis sitting in their ivory towers dehumanizing Pashtuns as savages.

During 2010 floods where the govt failed to step in TTP was rebuilding homes in FATA.

In Balochistan Islamabad failed to mobilize resentment against Sardars to pressure them into ruling without corruption or ending the feudal system. Instead Islamabad allowed India and far left radicals to hijack this sentiment into ethnic hatred and becoming useful idiots for India, Communist Russia and Israel.

Racism gets us nowhere. Pakistan is a federation and we need to respect the will of the people living inside it.

Islamabad must address the genuine grievances of the people instead of ignoring them and allowing hostile foreign actors to channel genuine sentiment for malicious purposes.
 
The Balochistan chief minister has said the administration had intelligence that India was about to carry out destabilising activities, while ISPR had earlier this week stated 12 terrorists belonging to “Indian proxy” outfits had been eliminated in separate operations in KP and Balochistan.

These are the key words to highlight from the article. What kind of human takes satisfaction in killing children? Lowest forms of human.
Shock , horror and awe tactics.
It fizzled away and stopped having much effects after 16 December 2014 Peshawar APS attack
India / BLA / TTP will have to pull out a new trick from their hat to shock the nation.
We went numb after that day
 
So far, there are six martyrs.
Four schoolchildren and two adults (the driver and the assistant).

Among the injured, (12) schoolchildren are in critical condition.
The death toll will certainly rise.
In an ironic way, this won't have the desired effects on the country. Neither on the people, nor on the military.
Nothing will ever come close to December 2014 APS Peshawar.
No news item shocked me that much before or since.
 
@Starlord

You’re profiling Pashtuns and baloch as violent but I as a Kashmiri Karachi wala remember MQM terrorizing the city for decades, with Altaf Hussein openly declaring allegiance to India? You say Sindhis are peaceful but don’t you recall it was perceived Sindhi persecution of Muhajirs that led to MQM’s popularity in the first place?

How did TTP originate in KP/FATA? When Musharraf allowed a foreign army to invade, kill and rape the Pashtun minority across the border in Afghanistan who are of the same DNA and religion as Pakistan. Pashtuns have a policy of death before disgrace, this is why Afghanistan as strategically stupid as it was refused to hand over bin Laden on Bush’s absolutist terms, and also why many FATA Pashtuns were angry that Islamabad instead of taking a similar stance forced Pakistan to be complicit in this war against their own people and run US supply lines through Pashtun lands.

This is also the same reason Musharraf got blown up by Kashmiris, because Musharraf wanted to accept Kashmir valley as part of India and let the Indians kill and rape Kashmiris as they please. Even Ilyas Kashmiri, the most legendary Kashmiri commander was alienated by Musharraf.

Foreign agencies used TTP to channel this anger and turn disillusioned Pashtuns into useful idiots for Hindutva India, by attacking Pakistan navy strategic assets which had no role in the AfPak area but only threatened Hindu India and Israeli submarines. PTM acted as their political wing. Total failure of Pakistan to take control of the narrative.

You say Pashtun tribals treat their women in a primitive and morally abhorrent manner — don’t you realize that from the perspective of these tribesmen, the way your women parade their bodies to the world and freely mix with random men in cities/uni/school is also primitive and degenerate to them?

The ideologies driving Baloch and Pashtun insurgencies are dissimilar but both stem from the failure of Islamabad to reach out to these communities, and in the case of Pashtuns you have leftist DHA aunties and blue haired f&ggots from Lahori unis sitting in their ivory towers dehumanizing Pashtuns as savages.

During 2010 floods where the govt failed to step in TTP was rebuilding homes in FATA.

In Balochistan Islamabad failed to mobilize resentment against Sardars to pressure them into ruling without corruption or ending the feudal system. Instead Islamabad allowed India and far left radicals to hijack this sentiment into ethnic hatred and becoming useful idiots for India, Communist Russia and Israel.

Racism gets us nowhere. Pakistan is a federation and we need to respect the will of the people living inside it.

Islamabad must address the genuine grievances of the people instead of ignoring them and allowing hostile foreign actors to channel genuine sentiment for malicious purposes.

They've been attacking Pakistan and behaving like animals for 80 years now

How long do you wait for these people, when they are killing children and labourers????

These lannati people have blood on their hands, their are some things that are unforgivable

Genuine grievance we can discuss,, what we can't discuss is murderous harami beghariti

I don't want to give mercy, or helps or spend money on people who kill children or labourers or travellers.
Those type of people are scum, they don't deserve anything, let alone respect or understanding
 
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They've been attacking Pakistan and behaving like animals for 80 years now

How long do you wait for these people, when they are killing children and labourers????

These lannati people have blood on their hands, their are some things that are unforgivable

Genuine grievance we can discuss,, what we can't discuss is murderous harami beghariti

I don't want to give mercy, or helps or spend money on people who kill children or labourers or travellers.
Those type of people are scum, they don't deserve anything, let alone respect or understanding
Your consistency calling pashtuns beghairat lanati. I could understand what you were trying to say if you had only sticked to ttp fak or some areas of fata. But calling your second largest ethnic group which these types of terms is pure disgust.are you in your senses. When pashtuns are the one on the front lines in terrorism in kpk. I don't want to call you slurs but just open the last 10 or 20 attacks on pak army in Waziristan and you will find most of the shaheeds are pashtuns. What type of behavior is this @RescueRanger please bring this person to his senses as he wants to eradicate Pakistan's second largest ethnic group. due to people like you on both sides. Pakistan has not achieved the unity that it deserves. Stick to ttp and other terrorist group don't call entire ethnic groups terrorists.
 
@hussain0216 both myself and @Musings have been very clear on this. Any ethno fascism against Pashtuns and Baloch people due to extremists elements is unhelpful and meanspirited.

Any further such outbursts will incur infractions.

Kindly discuss solutions without throwing ethic groups under the bus please.
 
They need to move everyone out of these arid rough places and move them to Gwadar and Quetta.

They need to make a brand new city somewhere. Give them a low cost taste of the DHA life.

It's obviously not governed properly. There are violent criminals roaming the highways. It's literally the wild west.

Even Afghanistan is safer.

They really need to fix this province.
 
They really need to fix this province.
Thats the only solution.

Putting a sticky bandage on a gushing wound won't take us far. Balochistan is a shithole in every sense imaginable. Unless that gets fixed, terrorism and insurgents would always have the space to maneuver.
 
Thats the only solution.

Putting a sticky bandage on a gushing wound won't take us far. Balochistan is a shithole in every sense imaginable. Unless that gets fixed, terrorism and insurgents would always have the space to maneuver.

I don't even think it has basic law and order. It's the wide spread that makes this a problem.

When I see any videos, its just all rough looking little villages in the middle of nowhere.

They need to consolidate everyone and give them incentives like housing.
 
I don't even think it has basic law and order. It's the wide spread that makes this a problem.

When I see any videos, its just all rough looking little villages in the middle of nowhere.

They need to consolidate everyone and give them incentives like housing.
Yep. Its basically wild west. No law, you are on your own.
 

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