Attack on Army School bus on Quetta-Khuzdar corridor— 6 Children martyred 43 injured.

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[Areesh]

Rehne de bhai, Like a said people will go far lengths to justify acts of terrorism and violence which are purely based on race, meanwhile Pakistani's will keep picking up dead bodies, there is no point in wasting with anyone because all of the members here are posting these long posts based on fake patriotism and zabardasti ki unity, ground realities are way different, yeh jo gayaan Ch@d rahe hai aaj half Balochistan aur half KPK mai travel nai ker sakte in certain clothes with certain name tags... you know we have people here write long posts how world doesn't give a F about Pakistan and lives of Pakistani's the reason is because we don't give a F about our own lives, but kisi B/P people ka dil dukhe, woh chahe aap ke bache maar den point blank pe shoot ker ke, ya bomb se urda den.

these people including mods who are talking about Grievances bechare log have zero idea what Gareebi is, how people cope with it, they are trying their best to look all nice goodie goodie and pretends to show Indians here that how Sab changa si here.. 2 memes daal do, 2-3 Indians ki trolling ker lo bas, yeh jo yahan ek dosre ko bhai bhai bolte hai na, mauqa mile tu ek dosre ke gardane uttar den, this is the dark reality of Pakistan.

mere ghar pe ek maasi kaam kerti thi, when i was still in Pakistan.. her name was irshaad, she used to be very sick and very weak, dholi patli but she had 8 kids, husband kaam nai kerta but sharab pi ker maarta bhi tha, for years her condition didn't change, we help the best we can which include my old school books and some school fees for her kids, my ammi and i went to her house in Bangali para many times and it was smaller than the bathroom of these people jo yahan bari bari baaten Ch@d rahe hai unity ki, and eventually her elder son complete his intermediate exams pass out, and he finds a job as sales for a company that sell things like pipes, plumbing equip, than her second eldest son gets a job as electrician, not electrical engineer but woh dukaan wali job, 3rd kid because a compounder/cleaning guy in a clinic near by, to this day she often come to meet my mom, her 2 daughters are now married and she has grandkids, she now lives in a little bit bigger house in same bangali para near my house...
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Moral of the story is that those who justify acts of terrorism and violence over Grievance, as I call it their R@ndi rona... learn a thing or two from the maasi that used to work at my house, and she is not only one, countless stories exists in that small piece of land and houses that sits next to Liyari Naala, no electricity, no saaf pani , roads pe roads ke ilawa sab kuch, no schools for their kids, no vaccines etc yet they live, do hard work and make a honest living, unlike the B/P people who since our independence their Grievance khatam hi nai ho rahi, BC pura mulk khatam ho gaya lakin inki Grievance nai.

There is this bengali maasi that works at our home. She is young. Just aged around 30. She has 3 kids since these people get married early. One boy and two girls. She and her husband are both working hard and they are trying to give education to all three of their children (even girls). She doesn't even accept Zakat from us. She doesn't want to take zakat even if we try to give them. We then help her in other ways like as a sadqa and stuff. She or her husband didn't go towards terrorism because they are poor or deprived of many basic necessities

The thing is that what TTP and BLA has done has no justification. People on this forum can give all sorts of justifications for their crimes but those crimes can't be justified. Even if TTP goes and kills Modi or Netanyahu for that matter even then it won't compensate for the crimes that TTP has committed against Muslims of Pakistan. Balochs and Pashtuns themselves would have to get rid of these murderers and criminals. Yes state itself has shown weakness particularly in Baluchistan matter where a certain narrative was peddled on the name of naraz baloch and hence no strong action was taken against BLA for years thus allowing it to grow and gain a sense of power and authority. That was the weakness on part of Pakistani state and hence Baloch can't be blamed for this weak attitude of Pakistani government. But still there are a lot of Baloch who try to justify and even defend BLA for shitty reasons in some manner

People love to give example of MQM here but forget that MQM only got weakened because people of Karachi (urdu speaking middle class) themselves stopped supporting MQM for its crimes. People of Karachi overwhelmingly supported a federal political party like PTI in three consecutive elections (2013, 2018 and 2024). A pashtun Alamgir Mehsud managed to win a seat from an Urdu speaking area of Karachi. Something that isn't possible in KPK or Baluchistan. If people of Karachi would have continued to support MQM then Karachi would have been no different from Quetta or Baluchistan today

 

[Starlord]

You’re profiling Pashtuns and baloch as violent but I as a Kashmiri Karachi wala remember MQM terrorizing the city for decades, with Altaf Hussein openly declaring allegiance to India? You say Sindhis are peaceful but don’t you recall it was perceived Sindhi persecution of Muhajirs that led to MQM’s popularity in the first place?

Yaar serious i have to repeat same arguments, MQM was a political party turned gang or either way around, Musharraf you TOP COAS sits with them work with them, have you even had a COAS sits with BLA/TTP ? MQM was the necessary evil in Karachi, I have no issue that MQM is gone but being the sole represented party of Muhajir people once they are gone you see Muhajir's blowing up schools? killing random labors or kids? We have Jiye Sindh type of nationalist movements but do you really fear that they will blow up bus full of kids? blowing up kids/schools/masajid, markets and hospitals, consulates are specialties of 2 ethnic groups in Pakistan, and we all know who they are.

How did TTP originate in KP/FATA? When Musharraf allowed a foreign army to invade, kill and rape the Pashtun minority across the border in Afghanistan who are of the same DNA and religion as Pakistan. Pashtuns have a policy of death before disgrace, this is why Afghanistan as strategically stupid as it was refused to hand over bin Laden on Bush’s absolutist terms, and also why many FATA Pashtuns were angry that Islamabad instead of taking a similar stance forced Pakistan to be complicit in this war against their own people and run US supply lines through Pashtun lands.

han han yeh jung humari nai thi, hum pe musalaat kari hai blah blah blah heard that a thousand times, 100000 log mar gaye, economy ki wattt lagi hai , duniya mai izzat ki MC BC hai, investors ana nai chahte but humari jung nai hai, Bush evil , Obama evil, CIA / MOSSAD, Thanos , Hydra , Sauron ki Galti hai.
America lost 3000 people in 9/11, they attacked Afghanistan, Afghan Taliban choses to fight, but the terrorism wave killed innocent Pakistani's which has nothing to do with the war, or decision making that happen in Washington DC, Islamabad of a freaking cave where Mullah Omar / OBL lives and died in.

This is also the same reason Musharraf got blown up by Kashmiris, because Musharraf wanted to accept Kashmir valley as part of India and let the Indians kill and rape Kashmiris as they please. Even Ilyas Kashmiri, the most legendary Kashmiri commander was alienated by Musharraf.

ab mun na khulwao Kashmiri pe, rehne do... this is not the thread nor time.

Foreign agencies used TTP to channel this anger and turn disillusioned Pashtuns into useful idiots for Hindutva India, by attacking Pakistan navy strategic assets which had no role in the AfPak area but only threatened Hindu India and Israeli submarines. PTM acted as their political wing. Total failure of Pakistan to take control of the narrative.

have you ever wondered why the Foreign agencies have 110% success rate with B/P people ? there are many many nations that have enemies but have you seen any nation who take money from a foreign country to blow up their own fellow countrymen kids? Ukraine and Russia is fighting a war, Ukraine existence is at stake here, do you see any Russian taking money from Ukraine or America to start counter insurgency in Russia? or start blowing off markets, schools in Russia ? Iran KSA ? N & S Korea ? AZ/AR ??? all these countries have fought directly or directly but have you notice that they all despite enemies able to exploit a certain ethnic group in their enemy's country so they start blowing shit up ? have you ever ask why only this happen with B/P people ?

You say Pashtun tribals treat their women in a primitive and morally abhorrent manner — don’t you realize that from the perspective of these tribesmen, the way your women parade their bodies to the world and freely mix with random men in cities/uni/school is also primitive and degenerate to them?

There is no comparison here, off topic but if you want me to discuss we can in different thread, trust me you don't want to go there lol

During 2010 floods where the govt failed to step in TTP was rebuilding homes in FATA.

ab yeh ko si nai chawal mari hai ?

In Balochistan Islamabad failed to mobilize resentment against Sardars to pressure them into ruling without corruption or ending the feudal system. Instead Islamabad allowed India and far left radicals to hijack this sentiment into ethnic hatred and becoming useful idiots for India, Communist Russia and Israel.

again, corruption failure of Govt that creates anger in people everywhere, its not unique to Pakistan, there are people who hate US govt, not happy with policies, but do you think they all make insurgent groups and start killing random labors and kids? stop with this justification of Terrorism because of lack of development and infrastructure, no sane people will pick up a AK-47 or strap a bomb to kill kids just because they have issues with Govt, and those organizations that does that we call them Terrorists, and those who supports them we call them Terrorist sympathizers, and both should be taken out mercilessly, and if the whole Ethnic group is ready to hate others than yes by all means turn the damn states in military hell hole for them, build the camps and put them there for reeducation, peace and stability is what matters, as long as you are not Genociding like Israel, take lessons from America's Japanese internment camps, or Chinese camps for Uhighurs, both were successful.

Racism gets us nowhere. Pakistan is a federation and we need to respect the will of the people living inside it.

Islamabad must address the genuine grievances of the people instead of ignoring them and allowing hostile foreign actors to channel genuine sentiment for malicious purposes.

meaningless and useless words, heard them a thousand times until next bus is blown up and we will discussing the same thing over.

 

[RescueRanger]

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[SteppeWolff]

Rehne de bhai, Like a said people will go far lengths to justify acts of terrorism and violence which are purely based on race, meanwhile Pakistani's will keep picking up dead bodies, there is no point in wasting with anyone because all of the members here are posting these long posts based on fake patriotism and zabardasti ki unity, ground realities are way different, yeh jo gayaan Ch@d rahe hai aaj half Balochistan aur half KPK mai travel nai ker sakte in certain clothes with certain name tags... you know we have people here write long posts how world doesn't give a F about Pakistan and lives of Pakistani's the reason is because we don't give a F about our own lives, but kisi B/P people ka dil dukhe, woh chahe aap ke bache maar den point blank pe shoot ker ke, ya bomb se urda den.

these people including mods who are talking about Grievances bechare log have zero idea what Gareebi is, how people cope with it, they are trying their best to look all nice goodie goodie and pretends to show Indians here that how Sab changa si here.. 2 memes daal do, 2-3 Indians ki trolling ker lo bas, yeh jo yahan ek dosre ko bhai bhai bolte hai na, mauqa mile tu ek dosre ke gardane uttar den, this is the dark reality of Pakistan.

mere ghar pe ek maasi kaam kerti thi, when i was still in Pakistan.. her name was irshaad, she used to be very sick and very weak, dholi patli but she had 8 kids, husband kaam nai kerta but sharab pi ker maarta bhi tha, for years her condition didn't change, we help the best we can which include my old school books and some school fees for her kids, my ammi and i went to her house in Bangali para many times and it was smaller than the bathroom of these people jo yahan bari bari baaten Ch@d rahe hai unity ki, and eventually her elder son complete his intermediate exams pass out, and he finds a job as sales for a company that sell things like pipes, plumbing equip, than her second eldest son gets a job as electrician, not electrical engineer but woh dukaan wali job, 3rd kid because a compounder/cleaning guy in a clinic near by, to this day she often come to meet my mom, her 2 daughters are now married and she has grandkids, she now lives in a little bit bigger house in same bangali para near my house...
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Moral of the story is that those who justify acts of terrorism and violence over Grievance, as I call it their R@ndi rona... learn a thing or two from the maasi that used to work at my house, and she is not only one, countless stories exists in that small piece of land and houses that sits next to Liyari Naala, no electricity, no saaf pani , roads pe roads ke ilawa sab kuch, no schools for their kids, no vaccines etc yet they live, do hard work and make a honest living, unlike the B/P people who since our independence their Grievance khatam hi nai ho rahi, BC pura mulk khatam ho gaya lakin inki Grievance nai.

Karachi isn't entire Pakistan. You have to shove your Karachi centric biases everywhere.

Your bengali maasi's kids studied and got opportunies ( salesman, electrician etc ) cause THEY LIVED IN KARACHI WHICH IS THE ECONOMIC HUB OF PAKISTAN. It doesn't matter how poor they were, they had access to education and jobs around them. They had opportunities to improve their life, being in a major city. You think Baloch and Pashtuns in Awaran, Turbat, Khuzdar, Mastung, Qilla Abdullah, Chaman, Loralai have that?

That isn't the case in Balochistan. You either have to leave the province if you are lucky enough ( like me ) or you stay there and get into all kinds of nefarious activities as there is no economic activity happening there or jobs or hospitals or nothing.

South Punjab is improvished, no economic activities or job unlike Karachi and reason it's Daaku territory and banditry happens there. When people have nowhere to go to, or improve their life ( as your maasis children did ), they get into the life of crime.

Karachi is 1000x better. Har cheez may Karachi kay bias ghussana chor do. You never have been to Balochistan to interior KPK.

Foreign elements use this poverty, lack of infrastructure as propaganda element to rile up the youth, give them money which they desperately need and you get an insurgency. If you wanna eradicate insurgency, you go to its roots, not to shove your bhaiyya ethno centrism everywhere.

 

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[Starlord]

There is this bengali maasi that works at our home. She is young. Just aged around 30. She has 3 kids since these people get married early. One boy and two girls. She and her husband are both working hard and they are trying to give education to all three of their children (even girls). She doesn't even accept Zakat from us. She doesn't want to take zakat even if we try to give them. We then help her in other ways like as a sadqa and stuff. She or her husband didn't go towards terrorism because they are poor or deprived of many basic necessities

yaar kab se yehi samjha raha hun lakin Pakistaniyo ke demagh mai bheja nai kata kat ke kaporay hai, I grow up and lived in Karachi for 29 years, visited many areas and see areas that doesn't look real and feel how can kids live here or even talk yet they do... but even then when a polio worker goes into the Bangali para to give vaccine to their kids, they don't fear for their lives, or if there are any govt labors that goes there doesn't fear unlike in KPK/Balochistan, but on PDF you will see people talk about Grievance of B/P people and how bad they had, both states are rich in places that can be utilized for tourism, if and only if the B/P people rise up and had this enough, help finish BLA/TTP once and for all they will be happy. SWAT wasn't taken over by TTP just because they had few thousand fighters or guns, SWAT fallen because people wanted it to fallen and live under the so called Shariyat law, they wanted and liked, and supported the TTP vision of Shariyat hence they just came in and take over, it was later when TTP kick the Tribal/s the so called Warrior race A$$ they ran to Army for help, same for Baloch. pata nai TTP/BLA ke saamne sab bhaduri nikal jati hai in dono ethnic groups ki.

The thing is that what TTP and BLA has no justification. People on this forum can give all sorts of justifications for their crimes but those crimes can't be justified. Even if TTP goes and kills Modi or Netanyahu for that matter even then it won't compensate for the crimes that TTP has committed against Muslims of Pakistan. Balochs and Pashtuns themselves would have to get rid of these murderers and criminals. Yes state itself has shown weakness particularly in Baluchistan matter where a certain narrative was peddled on the name of naraz baloch and hence no strong action was taken against BLA for years thus allowing it to grow and gain a sense of power and authority. That was the weakness on part of Pakistani state and hence Baloch can't be blamed for this weak attitude of Pakistani government. But still there are a lot of Baloch who try to justify and even defend BLA for shitty reasons in some manner

if they have help Govt to take out BLA/TTP, tourism alone will transformed BL/KPK, the places in Balochistan looks unreal to the eye, the mountains, beaches, black rock valleys, wild life etc, but like I said its not the lack of Govt interest it the culture/riwayaat that alienate them, teaches them to hate/be vary of the "others", stick within their own while use violence and fear to stop others from moving to their KPK/BL, People don't want to accept it because self realization is very hard, early Muslims realized the fault within themselves, their culture and way of life hence they support Rasool Allah against their own fathers/sons/families, all of them abandoned their ways for Islam because of the greater good, and look what we have ? Allah has spread the Islam around the world, while our B/P are still stuck in their tribal mentality, 2 bakre chori pe khandan ke khandaan maar dete hai... amazing people i say!!!

People love to give example of MQM here but forget that MQM only got weakened because people of Karachi (urdu speaking middle class) themselves stopped supporting MQM for its crimes. People of Karachi overwhelmingly supported a federal political party like PTI in three consecutive elections (2013, 2018 and 2024). A pashtun Alamgir Mehsud managed to win a seat from an Urdu speaking area of Karachi. Something that isn't possible in KPK or Baluchistan. If people of Karachi would have continued to support MQM then Karachi would have been no different from Quetta or Baluchistan today

Fall of MQM happen right before our eyes, you know the power of MQM we grow up and see in on the streets of Pakistani, from unit incharge to sector incharge, from sorting Gali ke phadday to Organizing night cricket events, but people from Urdu speaking always hold a hate against MQM for their bhatte ki parchiyan, my own father to this day is against MQM, always give qurbani ki khalen to local masjid rather than MQM. But have we seen any rise in Terrorism or attacks on Rangers from Urdu speaking people? or even those workers or party members who were hard core MQM supporters ? no, people accept it and for the greater good they move on, can we say the same for TTP or BLA? or the Pashtoon or Baloch people ? I dont think so.

 

[Starlord]

Who is justifying acts of terrorism on this forum in this thread? Can you name one member?

If not please don't post things like this. Thanks.

IF you don't ban me than I will tell you who according me are justifying acts of terrorism, sach sune ka gooda hai ?

 

[RescueRanger]

 

[RescueRanger]

IF you don't ban me than I will tell you who according me are justifying acts of terrorism, sach sune ka gooda hai ?

Bolo na.

 

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[SteppeWolff]

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Bruh...

This so heartbreaking. May Allah grant shifa to all injured. And patience to the families of the deceased.

 

[RescueRanger]