Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[RafaleSlayer]

NEVER EVER have had. The thought makes me sick............ Pakistanis for whatever reason treat those who want to genocide them with civility and hospitality. No OTHER race does this. Have no idea why this is so.

Indians ae fucking repulsive? I can't stand them anywhere near me.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Why is it a poor logic? Pakistan used exactly same logic back in 2019 and also in

Please comment on the logic of AVM Bharti claiming several Pakistani fighters downed including F-16s.
Were F-16s used by the PAF during counter-operations to "Sindoor" ?

 

[RafaleSlayer]

Whose we???? The white Dutch woman??

Or this yet another ***** in disguise

its a low self esteemed stinky masquerading as a white

 

[RafaleSlayer]

This is a 3 star?

It does not matter how many stars, what matters is he is an Indian.

 

[Vox Non Dei]

Please comment on the logic of AVM Bharti claiming several Pakistani fighters downed including F-16s.
Were F-16s used by the PAF during counter-operations to "Sindoor" ?

This is false again, he never said "F-16" or "several". He said we have downed a few planes. And planes were "Hi tech". Whatever you make out of it.

Here is the video at that position of that question.

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[pakistanitarzan]

This is false again, he never said "F-16" or "several". He said we have downed a few planes. And planes were "Hi tech". Whatever you make out of it.

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Show me one reputable international media that is confirming this claim

 

[flyingorca]

If defeat had a face it would be these two idiots. Just playing words gymnastics to deflect the losses in air IAF faced against Pakistan. Indians still have not learned. I think they are brain wired to never accept defeat.

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[RafaleSlayer]

I saw this interview enough to actually register on the forum and collect opinions of the members here (I have been a long-time guest of the forum)

The question I have is based on what the Indian CDS said: The tactics of the 7th were fixed on the 10th, and the IAF was in the air with force. What I'm curious about is that we claimed one kill on the 10th may day (I think) while the bulk of our kills are from day 1 (7th may).

If PAF had the edge, then why on the 10th did we not go for more kills? What would have been our thinking in just ground attacks from plans and missiles—but not asserting air-to-air dominance?

he is not telling the truth, all attacks on 10 were done by their ground based launchers.

 

[Jango007]

Why is it a poor logic? Pakistan used exactly same logic back in 2019 and also i

This is false again, he never said "F-16" or "several". He said we have downed a few planes. And planes were "Hi tech". Whatever you make out of it.

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What a moron...unworthy of being in the position of power...lying scum.

Unlike many I respect IAF...I believe their pilots always fight as best as they can. We just happened to be better and thats all. They dont lack motivation or courage but when they are given a politically motivated mission by a mass murdering religious zealot RSS government then I am glad we knocked their teeth out.

It looks like everyone is talking RSS language of lying and deception even though there is tons and tons of evidence to show IAF got their butt kicked.
I can see the difficulty accepting defeat but then having balls to make a claim of shooting PAF aircrafts is outright ridiculous......

Any proof? any western media reporting or corroborating ? any of your setallite picking up crash site? any video or pic? any tictok clip? any witness?

Like anything at all?

IF not then all you guys and especially your air commanbders need to STFU.

 

[FuturePAF]

Such a dishonorable thing to do...refuse to accept the deaths of their pilots..this will be a huge moral killer for me

It was a turkey shoot

Basically paralyzed IAF and demoralized them

Pretty sure PAF could have done more but decided to call it a day

In retrospective we should have either fired missile on delhi(since they hit Islamabad) or down those p-8 Poseidon as well but that would have been big buthurt

Yes, even a hit on a military comms tower in Delhi, with no personnel killed or even hurt would have sent a signal, that the war can come straight to their door as well.

 

[Baibers_1260]

This is false again, he never said "F-16" or "several". He said we have downed a few planes. And planes were "Hi tech". Whatever you make out of it.

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Ok since you quibble over semantics:
What's the difference between "few " and "several"?

Let's go by the Dictionary:

• Few ; a small number, not many
• Several; more than two but not many.

So how many Pakistani jets were shot down?

What is meant by "hi tech " ?

Pakistani aircraft downed were "hi-tech" ? Which ones?
Per the Indian Air Force Pakistan has low-tech Chinese aircraft which are not classified as "high tech " like the Rafale jets.

So would 42 year F-16s classify as "high tech" ? Apart from 55 year old Mirage 3 & 5, those are the only western combat aircraft the PAF uses. The other "hi tech" aircraft would be the SAAB 2000.

So question is what did the IAF shoot down or destroy?
Any satellite pictures of debris or destroyed aircraft? Here is a picture of Engels airbase after three consecutive Ukrainian drone and missile attacks, The base was still functional even after three attacks. Did India inflict comparable damage on any Pakistani airbase?

Russian Bomber Base Suffered Major Damage To Munitions Area In Ukrainian Drone Attack

The attack on Engels Air Base, 300 miles from Ukraine, sent a shockwave across the city and a towering black cloud overhead.

www.twz.com

Other claims by state approved media :
1. 20% of PAF AD assets destroyed
2, Karachi leveled

 

[TAC]

After the loss of aircraft on day one, IAF didn’t launch anything and remained on ground. This statement is correct.

But, it analysed what went wrong on 7th and re-calibrated its strategy and was on full force again on 10th.

Most of the weapons fired across were air launched on 10th and not SSMs. They didn’t face any resistance whatsoever.

While I give credit to PAF for what it achieved but it was restricted to 7th May. 9th onwards there was a counter strategy in place and utilised fully by the IAF on 10th.

Air Superiority can be claimed if one can deny the adversary air power to carry out its missions. Which wasn’t the case.

The air activity of fighters now is for them to go back to their bases and is in no way indicative that they were stuck on ground.

BS. Just trying to bull up what your AF did on the 10th and from where it did it. Even if it did something will have fired from deep within safety of India and scampered back to further safety immediately after doing it. All this Horse shit of ‘full force’ ‘counter strategy’ on the 10th is made up stuff same as what your sad excuse of an army chief tried, all sad attempts to avoid accepting the truth which is unmitigated humiliation. Basically saying, yeah we got our ass whooped on the 7th but how many we lost ‘doesn’t matter’ eh? How exactly doesn’t it matter?sorted ourselves out in a couple of days and then we came back and got even. So given that you sorted yourself out and put PAF back in its place you must have Shot down some PAF jets no? Err err o no, but we did manage to fire a few air to ground misiles on the 10th, really? That’s what constitutes air dominance?—- shameless and pathetic ’s’. You want to see what air dominance, ‘full force’ and ‘impunity’ means? Go have a look at what PAF did to IAF on the 7th when it tore it a new one.

 

[Gripen9]

But, it analysed what went wrong on 7th and re-calibrated its strategy and was on full force again on 10th.

Most of the weapons fired across were air launched on 10th and not SSMs. They didn’t face any resistance whatsoever.

While I give credit to PAF for what it achieved but it was restricted to 7th May. 9th onwards there was a counter strategy in place and utilised fully by the IAF on 10th.

Air Superiority can be claimed if one can deny the adversary air power to carry out its missions. Which wasn’t the case.

According to your own CDS, IAF launched its weapons from a safe distance on May 10th effectively staying out of PL15 envelope. I hardly call it unchallenged.

The Brahmos launched at Shahbaz and a Bholari were SSMs launched from Rajasthan in salvos of 3 and were tracked right away as shown during ISPR debrief. Majority were intercepted/soft killed but a few did leak and caused damage.

 

[TAC]

This is false again, he never said "F-16" or "several". He said we have downed a few planes. And planes were "Hi tech". Whatever you make out of it.

Here is the video at that position of that question.

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U know full well that no PAF jets were shot down, yet u put this BS out there just to muddy the water as much as possible and hope it somehow helps avoid the truth which is humiliating for India and particularly the IAF. Desperate

 

[mshan61]

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