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that is not true

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they don't always use the hangars during peace time but they have them.
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The New Start Treaty signed between US and Russia doesn't allow them to hide nuclear armed bombers in hangar.

It depends whether the platform is capable of carrying nuclear bombs or not.
 
muhammed45 said:
The New Start Treaty signed between US and Russia doesn't allow them to hide nuclear armed bombers in hangar.

It depends whether the platform is capable of carrying nuclear bombs or not.
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That is not true. They can be stored in hangars. They just have to be declared.
 
Persian Gulf said:
That is not true. They can be stored in hangars. They just have to be declared.
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MH.Yang said:
According to the nuclear agreement between Russia and the United States, neither country's bombers can be hidden in hangars.
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That's only for 30-minute ready bomber (or the term "deployed" bomber) not all nuclear capable equipment were forbidden to put inside a hanger.

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There are stuff like looking glass that were on 24 hours standby, those have to be visible at all time, and they are all uniquely identified.

A better explanation i found.
 
Russia should have never signed that silly agreement. USA is on the other side of ocean without hostile neighbors.

It not only weakened Russia in Europe but also left its strategic bombers open to simplest attacks.

They can compensate the losses obviously but what matters was US role in that attack.

The New Start Treaty was going to end by the end of the year, USA used Ukraine to inflict this huge damage before end of that treaty. Despite Russia's protests against US violation of the treaty for multiple times, they still remained loyal to their own Signature.

Russians foregt they are dealing with lowest kind of human being. Rednecks were obviously going to violate their own Signature. Dishonesty is in their DNA
 
Persian Gulf said:
That is not true. They can be stored in hangars. They just have to be declared.
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Yes, the information you provided is **partially true**, but it requires some clarification regarding Russia's bomber protection and the New START Treaty's verification requirements.

### **New START Treaty & Bomber Visibility Requirements**
The **New START Treaty (2010)** does indeed include verification measures to ensure compliance with limits on strategic nuclear delivery systems (ICBMs, SLBMs, and heavy bombers). Specifically:
- **Heavy bombers** configured for nuclear weapons must be **based at declared facilities** that are **subject to satellite surveillance (NTM – National Technical Means)**.
- The treaty allows for **on-site inspections** to confirm that bombers are not being covertly modified or deployed in ways that violate treaty limits.
- Russia and the U.S. must provide **data exchanges** on the locations and status of their strategic forces.

However, **the treaty does not explicitly require that bombers be left "unprotected"**—it only requires that they be stationed at known bases where they can be monitored via satellite imagery or inspections.

### **Why Were Russian Bombers Potentially Vulnerable?**
Recent reports (such as the August 2022 drone attack on **Engels Air Base**) suggest that some Russian strategic bombers were **not heavily defended against low-altitude drone strikes**. Possible reasons include:
1. **Overconfidence in air defenses** (assuming long-range threats were the primary concern, not small drones).
2. **Treaty compliance**—keeping bombers in observable locations, but without expecting non-state or unconventional attacks.
3. **Resource allocation**—Russia may have prioritized other military needs over bomber base defenses.

### **Conclusion**
- **True:** The New START Treaty requires bombers to be stationed at declared, observable bases for verification.
- **Misleading/Incomplete:** The treaty does not *require* bombers to be left unprotected—Russia’s security posture is its own choice. Their vulnerability may stem from other factors (doctrine, budget, or underestimating drone threats).

Both of you are correct @muhammed45 @Persian Gulf
 
muhammed45 said:
They cannot hide their bombers according to a treaty signed with the US. Not even USA builds hangars for its strategic nuclear capable bombers.
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And you think how they keep those b2
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It seems to me that we don't see a panzer in the picture, maybe this is a personal development. The tower is too close to the driver's cabin.
 
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