Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Aggregate said:
Not everything is a Mullah fantasy. This is not about Iran being an Islamic country but Iran being a deterrence against Israel. Pakistan cannot afford Iran to fall, neither an China. The fact that Iran thanked 4 countries including Pakistan yesterday, says it all. This IS our war now by all means.
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Go to sleep buddy. It's so much Pakistan's war that we are not even fighting nor does the military have any plan to. :rofl:

Limited strategic interests do not mean you emotionally jump head-first into a foreign war where you are totally outclassed then sit and cry afterwards when the writing was on the wall from the beginning.

Decisions taken by macho chest thumping with nothing to back it up is why IRI is in the position today.
 
F-22Raptor said:
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Israel believes Irans current ballistic missile arsenal is 2,000 remaining.
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These estimates are worth nothing. They know nothing.

This is the same news that said Russia was going to run out of missiles 3 months into the war, then it became 6 month, and then defiantly in 1 year Russia will have no more CMs or BMs to fire.

I can’t believe people believe this horse shit. You think if Israel or U.S. knew the exact number they would let Iran know openly?
 
Nevsky said:
Are you guys in your right mind? Russia is fighting the biggest proxy war the world has ever seen. 30 million country, which was the most industrialized part of the USSR is fighting against us with the pretty much full support of the Western intelligence, money and arms. We have thousands and thousands sanctions on us. And we are pretty much on our own. What do you expect and think Russia can do and give in this moment?
Go and ask the useless Chinese to do something once in their 5000 old civilization nonsense.🙂
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Agreed overall with your post about Russia's limitations but you didn't have to insult China to prove your point.
Fact is: India and Pakistan, very similar countries, are fighting Kashmir. Fact is that China and Taiwan, very similar countries, may go to war against each other. Fact is that Russia and Ukraine, very similar countries, are fighting a horrible war for years.
Who is behind those wars is not hard to guess: They are sitting in Washington DC sipping pina coladas and building mansions and buying luxury yachts. And they have been doing that for many decades.
 
r3alist said:
Maybe you are right, it's easy to retrospectively say this should be there and this should not but obviously there are huge constraints for iran


My point, in general, is this whole conflict right now ...in the hot phase ....seems to be structured around a finite supply of Iranian missiles versus full spectrum Western attack


The reality seems to be that Iran can cause significant nuisance, missiles and trade and oil disruption, but it cannot inflict defeat, but also it can face a defeat itself

If that was the intended strategy and equation, anyone could have predicted the result 10 or 15 years ago ... no nukes no worries
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Let’s see how long Israel can keep the tempo of strikes going. So far they haven’t penetrated inside. Only aeroballistic missiles and drones.

I don’t believe 90% of the doom n gloom being pedaled here.

I believe the important Iranian military bases are intact and fully operational.

You can’t launch 150 drones and 200 ballistic missiles if even half these posts here are to be believed.

Most of the Iranian missiles made it to their targets and probably a significant number of those arash drones.

Their new chief Vahidi in that interview sounded up beat and confident that Iran will sustain this pace of retaliation and prevail once this settles into a game of stamina, like all conflicts usually devolve into.
 
flyingorca said:
Ceasefire will be in Iran's favor and will be a HUGE setback for Israel. I feel like Iranians have united under current regime. Now Iran will be forced to modernize its military with Russia and China support.
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Ceasefire now will mean surrendering to the US.

The choice is surrender or war with Zion. If war, as soon as Israel takes out all the air defences, long range missile sites, the US will move in to destroy Iran.

Surrender will lead to regime change and war will also lead to regime change... Unless Iran can pull out something spectacular that we've not seen before or Russia/China intervene directly, I don't see the coming days and weeks panning out in Iran's favour.
 
ShapurII said:
It sort of is. Maybe not China as much as Russia, but Russia is absolutely responsible for this mess.
They refused to sell jet fighters to Iran. They passed 4 rounds of UN Security Council sanctions on us that brought our economy on the verge of collapse and forced us to accept the JCPOA. They made a deal with Assad to abandon Syria and offered him to take refugee in Moscow. Only to name a few.
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An interesting parallel here is Putin insists on the Ukrainian invasion being a special operation, therefore there is a type of political rot where the war just prolongs and prolongs and prolongs and more people die.....

The Russian nation will take a long time to recover, Putin is at the top of this


Even the soviets, they kind of stood on top of many failures, I can exactly understand why Iran should be suspicious of Russia


China, maybe that's something they should have actively tried to cultivate
 
Aggregate said:
Not everything is a Mullah fantasy. This is not about Iran being an Islamic country but Iran being a deterrence against Israel. Pakistan cannot afford Iran to fall, neither an China. The fact that Iran thanked 4 countries including Pakistan yesterday, says it all. This IS our war now by all means.
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It is an existential war for us. A Zionist controlled country on our border with Baluchistan. Not to mention the Nuclear weapons issue.

This is our fight for survival.
 
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NOTE: Beyond zionist media to hide military defeats of "Israel", there are active profiles on social networks and the internet in general (paid people) to maintain the Zionist narrative and thus reduce support for Iran (and the Palestinian cause). Months ago I posted here about the "disarmament" of places in the Middle East (where I said it was a lie and I was not wrong..) it was fake news as now there is a series of lies put together. And in the end, what decides a political-military conflict is the support it receives and not the military battle itself, that's why the US (stronger) lost in Afghanistan or Vietnam. Zionist media and Zionist Web want to create a narrative of invincibility, of total domination over the adversary and even that they defeated him in "10 minutes" are lies for stupid people to believe

Therefore, whoever is interested should get information directly from the Iranian side (in the link given) because the "Israeli" side is just turning on the web or TV and you will see it.
 
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Israel believes Irans current ballistic missile arsenal is 2,000 remaining.
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We've direct connections to China now (By land) and Russia (land and sea). We're producing missiles everyday, supplies of components will not be disrupted.
 
Immortals said:
These estimates are worth nothing. They know nothing.

This is the same news that said Russia was going to run out of missiles 3 months into the war, then it became 6 month, and then defiantly in 1 year Russia will have no more CMs or BMs to fire.

I can’t believe people believe this horse shit. You think if Israel or U.S. knew the exact number they would let Iran know openly?
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Didnt they say Russia is fighting with shovels and washing machines, i dont trust western propaganda
 
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Iran refused to address the FPV situation until it was too late. Everyone always downplayed the FPV sabotage attacks. But now can see the pain they caused when used on a mass scale.
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too much infestation
 
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