Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mulj]

They aren’t willing to sell. At least they haven’t in the past and I don’t see that changing anytime soon

You were close ally to India, China as superpower same as USA has its own gepolitical security calculus, once you ditch cordiality with India and kick their economic interests from Iran, i am pretty sure that they will gladly sell you everything you ask for, it is up to your diplomacy to iron flat conditions for military purchases from China.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

He's clearly pissed

I agree 100% with Donald J Trump here , Israel's downfall is "They Can't Stop"
Like a Serial Killer , they can't resist killing. He is smart man

They have had chance to live peacefully since 1996 , Two state solution but they keep going in circle. They keep making enemies

A normal person does not continues a mindless act

Instead of stopping they will continue with their Hunger to cause more chaos and they will find another reason to cause chaos

 

[ghazi52]

An unusual ceasefire, imposed by the US​

James Landale
BBC Diplomatic correspondent

In most wars, ceasefires are negotiated, not announced on social media.

So the pause in fighting between Israel and Iran is unusual, in so much that it was largely imposed by the United States.

It also means there is a lot that is unclear. What would be a violation of this ceasefire?

What would the penalty be? What would be considered a legitimate retaliation in such circumstances?

For example, what if a group loosely allied to Iran – such as the Houthis in Yemen – attacked Israel. Would or could Israel legitimately attack Iran in response?

The terms of this pause seem to be little more than both sides halting their missiles. Is Iran expected to resume negotiations over its nuclear programme?

Could it get economic sanctions' relief in return? Questions all to which there are as yet no answers.

 

[Abdul q]

First Iran should look over her shoulders.. i.e. Pakistan… no matter what we are bordering Iran and they should have and should work with Pakistan closely to get rid of proxies (RAW) within sistan province….

 

[Davey Crockett]

Say the same for Gaza now Mr Trumpet

People of Gaza? Why they are animals! The Queen James Bible tells me so.

Most Americans are retarded when it comes to religion. They don't even know King James was a flaming homo.

Every mainstream Church in America is compromised. Very easy to prove this. Pick up a church bulletin, before service on Sunday and look where it was printed.

All across America, the same Zionist owned printer in Minnesota.

Hang around in the lobby before service. You can spot the Jew hanging around to make sure everything is Kosher.

When the Palestinian/Israeli conflict broke out, I accepted an invitation to attend church.

Left within 45 minutes, disgusted with the pro Jewish selective Bible verses.

Preacher jumped from Bible verse from Bible verse, all across the Old Testament, to tell his sheep the Bandit State is God working miracles in real time.

The deacon told me I am very spiritual, but I need fine tuning.

His son, eight years ago in his first sermon being ordained, made me stand up in front of the congregation on Easter Sunday, and told his flock I was the best example of good old Christianity. Helping others in need.

Now, because I still try my best to fear the Lord, I am a non entity. The deacon had the nerve to show up on my front porch to tell me I am very spiritual, but I need some fine tuning. Thanked him and never discussed religion with him again.

The Bible Belt is lost. Dripping with Jewish propaganda.

 

[mulj]

Hezbollah betrayed us. It's time to throw them under the bus.
Not only Iraqi resistance did nothing, but the Iraqi sky was like an 8-lane expressway for the Israeli Air Force to move back and forth from Israel to Iran. They exerted zero pressure on their government for this.
Hamas and Palestinians stayed away completely. This could've been an opportunity for a new intifada. We could've hit Israel's anti-riot and police forces to help them, but the Palestinians were unwilling to participate in the war, it seems. Hamas didn't even fire rockets during the war. I don't blame the Palestinians though, they've been through a lot in the last 2 years, but they missed an opportunity.

Only the Houthies of Yemen proved to be at least potentially useful, even though one could argue that they didn't do much besides firing a single missile (maybe two?) during the war, but still, they showed willingness to help us. That's more than what the other members of the so-called "Axis of Resistance" did.

Dude, equivalent of several nukes have been dropped on Gaza, it is miracle that Hamas still exist and you expect them to mount offensive, it is insulting if not delusional demand.

 

[Aziqbal]

do you know how many Christian Ukrainian were killed by the Jewish planned Holodmor Genocide ? it was close to 5 million

do you know how many Jews were killed by Germans? over 6 million

do you know how many Europeans were killed in WW1 ? around 44 million

do you know how many Europeans were killed in WW2 ? around 85 million

less than 1 generation ago Britian and Argentina fought each other over the Falklands

do you know how many Orthodox Christian were killed by Catholics during the 1st Crusader ? they burnt Constaninpole to the ground

they killed Orthodox women and children they burnt them inside the church's

In Christianity there is over 2000 different denominations Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Baptist, Coptic, Lutheran, Anglican and the list goes on

but what happens when they go to war? they all unite behind each other even UK and Argentina supported Israel , Germany Supports Israel

But we Muslims? only have Shia and Sunni and our history together is not as bloody as these savages

But what happens when Muslims fight? oh he is Iranian Shia he is Sunni and he is this and he is that

We are divided along sectarian lines while Western nations unite behind each other

 

[ghazi52]

Ceasefire between Israel and Iran appears to hold - here's the latest
BBC
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A delicate ceasefire between Israel and Iran appears to be holding, after US President Donald Trump lashed out at both sides in an expletive-laden outburst.

It's just past 20:00 local time (18:00 BST) in Israel and about 20:30 local time in Iran.

Here's the latest:

• Trump said "Israel and Iran wanted to stop the war, equally!" in a post on his Truth Social platform
• The president held a phone call with Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, during which he was reportedly "exceptionally firm and direct" about maintaining the ceasefire
• Trump earlier expressed anger at both sides, accusing Iran and Israel of violating the ceasefire brokered by the US and Qatar - using an expletive while telling reporters that country "knows what ... they're doing"
• The US president also shared a series of text messages from Nato chief Mark Rutte praising his response to Iran - Flattery is a tool many have deployed to try to sway Trump. But it's not always displayed so publicly, says our Europe regional editor

Trump is due to arrive at the Nato summit shortly, where he'll meet world leaders. Stay with us for the latest.

 

[Meengla]

Again, how is Trump saying NO when he sent 3 B-2 bombers a few days after he was asked to do it?
I don't know what you meant by "getting involved." I will say bombing a country that had not done anything to you is seriously "getting involved", but then you read your own label.
And again, you are NOT compelled to reply to my post if you disagree on what I said, I certainly won't

There are degrees of involvement. I hope you understand that. And here is the rest of my response!

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[BigMela2onin]

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An unusual ceasefire, imposed by the US​

James Landale
BBC Diplomatic correspondent

In most wars, ceasefires are negotiated, not announced on social media.

So the pause in fighting between Israel and Iran is unusual, in so much that it was largely imposed by the United States.

It also means there is a lot that is unclear. What would be a violation of this ceasefire?

What would the penalty be? What would be considered a legitimate retaliation in such circumstances?

For example, what if a group loosely allied to Iran – such as the Houthis in Yemen – attacked Israel. Would or could Israel legitimately attack Iran in response?

The terms of this pause seem to be little more than both sides halting their missiles. Is Iran expected to resume negotiations over its nuclear programme?

Could it get economic sanctions' relief in return? Questions all to which there are as yet no answers.

The US always is the one to reign in the rabid dog that is known as "Israel". Reagen forced them to stop killing civilians in south Lebanon in the 1982 war. But the US government has been increasingly infiltrated by foreign agents in the last few decades. Everyone knew the jews are rabid animals even back then, but they are bribed to turn away from their crimes now.

 

[Brutal.]

American people waking up to reality. But the sad part is whoever they elect, once in office has to obey the entity. America needs to break free ASAP.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

there are reports of intrusions in IR

 

[Blueishere]

My 2 cents:

- Publicly end nuclear program in exchange for end of sanctions. Revive RCD cooperation with Pakistan and Turkey. The stronger the economy, the more difficult it is for traitors to be bribed with passports to developed countries

- End hostile proxy militant programs in neighbouring countries and mend relations with them. Syrians despise Assad, Lebanese are tired of Hezbollah, Pakistan is wary of Zaynaboun. Don't be like India, a friendless obnoxious country hated by its neighbours to the extent it made Bangladesh and Pakistan become friends again. Turkey and Pakistan can use their influence on Azerbaijan to mend relations with Iran and resolve disputes.

- I don't think Iran should sever relations with India or anything like that, but Iranians seriously need to introspect as to why their government sucks up to a country that has shamelessly back-stabbed Iran so many times, especially at the expense of close relations with Pakistan/China.

- Mass production of Fatah-2 (Iranian Hypersonic Missile) and launchers. Disperse across Iran. Jointly produce with some facilities ``in Pakistan so Israel cannot hit production facilities and missiles/launchers can be supplied Ukraine-style in the event of a long war.

- Mass produce MIRV conventional ballistic missiles. Most countries cannot do this due to nuclear implications, but a non-nuclear Iran is in a unique position to leverage unstoppable MIRV BMs for conventional strikes.

- Join PFX (JF-17 upgrade) program with Turkey and Pakistan to mass produce an 'Islamic' 4.5 gen fighter. And join KAAN program to produce an 'Islamic' 5th Gen fighter. China has an exceptional relationship with Pakistan, don't expect it to be extended to the rest of the world. Remember China has its own disagreements with Turkey and Iran (over Uighurs and BLA attacks on CPEC/Gwadar).
- Initiate multiple joint Turk-Iran-Pak programs to develop anti-stealth radars and other military tech.

- Aim for an air force of ~300 PFX/Thunder + ~ 128 KAAN. Get ~24 Chinese/Russian refuellers to sustain prolonged ops across the region

- Aim for ~10 awacs (Chinese, but if they're understandably not willing to sell their best to Iran, in the long run a turk-iran-pak system can be developed and installed on a cargo/business/passenger jet). Pakistani awacs can cover south and west iran.

- Build a large submarine force. Iran cannot conduct sea control ops against USN, but Iran can do sea denial ops like China. Work with Turkey and Pakistan to build a navy and form an allied ELINT network from Kuwait to Kutch.

- Pakistani air/missile/logistic bases in Iran, will not only serve as strategic depth against India, but also as safe heavens for air defence, much like the US is for Israel. Whoops, our HQ-9B/P and EW systems intercepted those Israeli projectiles headed to our base's general direction! Although Pakistan may not be able to sustain a long supply of interceptions, we can blunt a surprise attack like the one Iran faced on day one of this war.

- Deep undeground supply tunnels between Iran and Pakistan to evacuate Iranian VVIPs and high value assets to safety (and vice versa)

- Work towards reducing sectarian politics and ethno nationalism, aiming for a pan-islamic alliance (radical mullahs, kemalists, and far leftist elites will be the most difficult groups to clamp down on)

- Mass cleansing of traitors and corrupt officials

- Joint operations against JuA, Fitna al Hindustan, Taliban, ISIS-K, etc.

below per @OldTwilight

-Buy 100-150 HQ-16 30-50 HQ-22

-rebuild all OTH radar ,

-produce new 3th Khordad and 9th Day systems along with Bavar 373 ,

-buy more S300-PMU2 / S400

-ask for joint production of JF-17

-immediate purchase of 100-150 J10C , should continue purchase of Su-35

Good post, Iran now has an opportunity to complete change its socioeconomic situation with national unity achieved temporarily, I hope the mullahs are smart.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

 

[vmro]

This should put to bed the stupid narrative Mossad has video of Trump (Epstein) by some delusional folks in here. Bibi won't survive politically I think Trump is over him Fordow is gone Iran won't be able to enrich to nuke standard so it's over.

What did Isreal think was going to happen when they launched a huge strike at Tehran after agreeing to ceasefire that Iran would just sit on its hands until ceasefire time? Fk no they played Israel by launching couple of minutes before deadline putting them in an awkward position. Iran got the last slap in and it pissed off Israel and almost got the Orange bull really pissed off. Don't piss off a powerful man with a huge ego especially after agreeing with him. This really could have not ended well for Israel if bombs started dropping over Iran.

The planes are over Iran to give them a friendly wave totally reminded me when I was a little boy and would get into a fight with another boy at a B-day party and my mom would force me to shake hands and say sorry. That was total grabbing the hand tightly as mom gives you that look as she tells you to make up.

Just before timed moment Iran made devastating impact with 6 deceased and many injured...and impact on the buildings is scary to see... yes, Israel inflicted more deaths, I know that number of deaths is orgazmic for zionists, but Iran punched back till the very end, and strikes back like young version of Mike Tyson, unprecedented in the entity's modest history timeline, unexpected, and they are just coming back to punch again, they are still lethal, they are still powerful, and unstoppable for tiny entity, few to penetrate is already serious damage to midget, while Iran is entire west Europe combined large in territory, 10 times more numerous...

And Israel for every action will get reactions in same, devastating manner...Israel is half of Tehran, so for Iranian Army even small effectiveness is enormous for the entity...

Be sure that Iran will hit hard next time, just give them a reason...