Reichmarshal
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Pakistan will be attacked before iran
Iran Plans to Buy Chinese J-10C Instead of Russian Su-35
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@Beijingwalker Would China agree to sell the J-10 to Iran?
RealNapster
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Let's see how they feel now.
Beijingwalker
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Don't know, a lot of discussion on the Chinese social media saying Iran is being infiltrated by US and Israeli agents too much, those top Iranian generals being eliminated by Israeli missile and assasins must be an inside job.
Many really worry Chinese weapons and technology could fall into US hands through omnipresent Israeli and US agents in Iran.
Rational Philosopher
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From Chinese perspective, why should China sell advanced military weapons to Iran that will anger its Gulf Arab allies, the Israelis, and by extension the US?
From Pakistan's perspective, what will it get in return for doing all this, or is this expected to just be a goodwill gesture towards an Indian ally commonly accused of harbouring BLA?
MS Sandhu
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A good gesture to re-establish strategic relations with Iran if it survives out this assault.
A strategic depth sort of thing.
Rational Philosopher
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Maybe. Maybe not. But I hope you understand that Iran's actions in recent history have been anything but honest, in fact quite shrewd and deceitful, one such event being directly firing missiles into Pakistan.
By all sensible predictions, they will rebuild (if they do so), and go back to being arrogant. No hate to any Iranian individual but the state often takes that form.
Nuffle
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To maintain the strategic balance in the region. The J-10CE is far from being an advanced technology, it would be a second-line technology for the PLAAF, whose production may be heading towards its deactivation; selling the J-10CE to Iran should keep this line open.
I think the only thing that worries the Gulf allies is the ToT, whose fighter I don't know if China would be willing to offer.
Rational Philosopher
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I don't think China cares about any strategic balance. It's not a world police.
If it has better and stronger more practical relations with the Arabs, and backdoor dealings with Israelis (which it does), then Iranians simply won't get the J-10C if the former make their concerns clear. China will not damage their relations that it values.
MS Sandhu
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If J10C can Find & break the critical Air to Air Refuelling Nodes of IsAF in Syrian & Iraqi Air Space, it can seriously halt the offensive capability of IsAF.
Rational Philosopher
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Su-35 would be better given longer range and probably more likely.
Pakistanithinktank
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Even if the news about China is considering selling 24-36 J-10C fighters to Iran is correct, but faces multiple challenges:
1. Regional Diplomacy: Must balance relations with both Iran and U.S.-aligned Gulf states like Saudi Arabia/UAE
2. Security Concerns: Fears of Israeli Mossad infiltration in Iran could compromise sensitive military technology
3. Economic Factors: Prefers cash payments despite Iran's push for oil-barter deals, complicated by U.S. sanctions
4. Strategic Impact: Would boost Iran's airpower but not match Israel's F-35s, potentially triggering regional arms race
China may views this as a low-risk opportunity to expand influence while testing Western red lines, but will likely proceed cautiously to avoid major geopolitical fallout. The deal represents careful calculation rather than a major strategic shift in the Middle East.
1. Regional Diplomacy: Must balance relations with both Iran and U.S.-aligned Gulf states like Saudi Arabia/UAE
2. Security Concerns: Fears of Israeli Mossad infiltration in Iran could compromise sensitive military technology
3. Economic Factors: Prefers cash payments despite Iran's push for oil-barter deals, complicated by U.S. sanctions
4. Strategic Impact: Would boost Iran's airpower but not match Israel's F-35s, potentially triggering regional arms race
China may views this as a low-risk opportunity to expand influence while testing Western red lines, but will likely proceed cautiously to avoid major geopolitical fallout. The deal represents careful calculation rather than a major strategic shift in the Middle East.
Nuffle
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China does care, especially considering that what is at stake is the unfavorable balance for Iran, which is a member of BRICS.
I very much doubt that China has a secret agreement with Israel; in fact, the only option for any Middle Eastern state to acquire comprehensive BVR capabilities is China, because Russian politics are dominated by Zionism and I have always said that Russia cannot be trusted when it comes to Israel.
The sale of J-10CE fighters to Iran will not harm any of China's relations with the Gulf states, whose capabilities are far beyond Iran's.
Nuffle
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If the IRIAF uses the J-10CE for air superiority, it may be able to conduct some DCA against the IAF in Iraqi airspace, but they cannot go as far as Syria without at least some tankers.
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