Iran Plans to Buy Chinese J-10C Instead of Russian Su-35

[ShapurII]

Being left-leaning doesn't mean they're wrong.

Also, during the elections, most of reddit was saying that Trump was gonna win.

FYI, it's the right-leaning mediums that don't know anything about Iran, and want war.

You're talking about the left-leaning Americans, not the left-leaning Iranians. The left-leaning Iranians are quite pro-West, for obvious reasons.

But I disagree with you. A lot of right-wing Americans, even the MAGA people, don't want war with Iran. People like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are possibly the best advocates of Iran in the US media at the moment.

 

[mulj]

That's such a simplistic view of politics and foreign affairs lol

Iran didn't aid Russia more because Russia failed, and continues to fail, to deliver Sukhoi-35s to Iran. Why should Iran aid Russia when Russia doesn't return the favor?

KGB? lol There's no KGB anymore. The Russian security apparatus couldn't even assist Russia in detecting the Ukrainian drone attack, losing tens of their strategic bombers in a single day lol Give me a break

Stop talking about things you are clueless about. The rest of your post is also based on completely wrong info as well. You don't even know the timeline of most of these developments to begin with.

Live him, russia just brought iron dome from jews and other ad stuff, russia is fully compromised and transactional relations are most what you can expect where even there you are cheated by them.

 

[That_Guy]

You're talking about the left-leaning Americans, not the left-leaning Iranians. The left-leaning Iranians are quite pro-West, for obvious reasons.

But I disagree with you. A lot of right-wing Americans, even the MAGA people, don't want war with Iran. People like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are possibly the best advocates of Iran in the US media at the moment.

The right-wingers in America who don't want war are the fringe of the right.

As for MAGA, they'll fall in line, because they have no spine. When Trump bombed Iran, did they condemn him? No, they called him a hero.

Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are fringe, and have largely been exiled from the main-stream right.

As for leftist-Iranians, they may be pro-west, but they came out against the bombings as well. The only ones that were pro-bombing were the monarchist/Pahlavists.

 

[vmro]

A lot of right-wing Americans, even the MAGA people, don't want war with Iran. People like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are possibly the best advocates of Iran in the US media at the moment.

Not even close to Bannon, creator of winning campaign and MAGA itself, man with all possible links and top secret leaks...

Their position is not about chance of victory over Iran... Their position is that Iran could be most valuable ally, maybe a most important in Eurasia, in this dynamic and challenging global geopolitical redefining...

MAGA is constantly fragile in the conflict with Iran, of course opposed by AIPAC, but they fought back with exposing the enormous Americans wasted money on artificial entity...but biblical one...

 

[irani]

I'm hearing so many different things regarding the SU-35, one is that the order was cancelled some time ago, one says the order is still going on and Iran has received 4 SU-35s the rest will come in 1-2 years...who knows the truth, this however wouldn't be the first time Iran makes a purchase from Russia and they don't deliver like the S-300 Iran bought for 6.5 Billion.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Delay in Russia is due to Russia-Ukraine war , and Russians also producing assets for their own Air-force

I am sure Russia will start processing Algerian , Iran orders 40 Units

The J10C order will be likely a supplemental order to balance things out

 

[gambit]

While Israel was able to achieve air superiority over parts of Iran, Israel cannot conduct, or sustain her operations over Iran for a sustained period of time without the help of the USAF/RAF/German Airforce to provide air to air refuelling capabilities.

Sure, China help Iran, supposedly, and we help Israel. Fair game.

How is China going to deliver those jets? Fly them in and risk being shot down en route? China to declare war against Israel? Good luck with that.

Bottom line is that as long as Israel controls Iranian airspace, Iranian future essentially belongs to Israel.

 

[Avicenna]

Sure, China help Iran, supposedly, and we help Israel. Fair game.

How is China going to deliver those jets? Fly them in and risk being shot down en route? China to declare war against Israel? Good luck with that.

Bottom line is that as long as Israel controls Iranian airspace, Iranian future essentially belongs to Israel.

Israel controls Iranian air space?

Really?

Iran is a BIG country playboy.

Also, I would LOVE to see Israel try and disrupt Chinese deliveries to Iran.

 

[Avicenna]

So would the rest of the world.

But for speculation's sake, I will predict that the Chinese pilots who ferry in those J-10s will die ignoble deaths, far away from their ancestral soil. Wherever their jets crashed, %90 the feng shui will be negative, ensuring their spirits trapped on Earth.

And it ends there right?

Like I said would love to see that scenario play out.

 

[Developereo]

MAGA is constantly fragile in the conflict with Iran, of course opposed by AIPAC

This is the part most people are missing.

The sacrifices made by Palestinian civilians, the resulting student protests, and Israel's misadventures in Iran have cracked open the door of criticising AIPAC's influence on the American government.

It used to be suicide to even mention that the pro-Israel lobby controls the US government -- it was immediately tagged as antisemitic to even suggest such a thing -- but now people are openly asking these questions in mainstream media.

Of course the Zionist media will try to tag them as fringe but MAGA is very much mainstream in American culture. The mainstream media always promotes a false narrative which props up the leftists as being more powerful than they are. The media suggested the Trump v/s Biden/Harris race would be tight but it was not even close. Anybody with eyes open knew Trump was always winning by a landslide, which he did (in terms of electoral college).

Now the Zionist media wants to pretend that MAGA has been sidelined as fringe. Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[muhammed45]

Ravit Baer Israel's consul General in Shanghai has asked China to pressure Iran in the nuclear field.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-07-02/israel-urges-china-to-pressure-iran-to-rein-in-nuclear-ambitions

I know for a fact, they were successful in bargaining with China when UNSC imposed 2231 on Iran. An other fact, Israel can lobby in China, not as greatly as lobbying in the US. But its a fact that they can influence Chinese decision making process. @MH.Yang

For this part, China has not only flip flopping politically but also it was a complete short-sightedness from your leadership. After fall of Iran and Russia, they will surely come for you too. Starting with Taiwan, Israel's big daddy will surround you from every direction.

Every word you said can be thrown at yourself. I had a discussion with @Beijingwalker about this matter. I can repeat it here

 

[MH.Yang]

ok I see. if there is a lack of trust or zero trust then thing is difficult.
I really wonder what’s Iran’s endgame? what they want? buying russian or chinese aircraft won’t help them win the arms race against Israel. if Iran gets 30 new aircraft, Israel will get 100 new aircraft.
instead, they should get out of endless conflicts and wars. make peace. life is short.
about why uncle Kim gets bonbons from the russians but Khamenei not. I think you know my perception. Chinese, Koreans, Japanese are people of far east. they are smart. other not so.
I think I stop here before I get a warning.

Can you please stop explaining geopolitics with racist remarks? Iranians have a high IQ and lead the world in education and literacy, they are also an ancient civilization with a historical heritage, Persian civilization is no less than East Asian civilization.

Their geopolitical uncertainty is not a racial problem, it's a problem with their political elite!

There was an emperor in the Ming Dynasty of China called Emperor Jiajing, and as a Vietnamese, you should know something about him. Emperor Jiajing gave himself a rating of “云在青天水在瓶，以一人之心夺千万人之心。”. Meaning that the supporters behind the anti-American faction were him, and the supporters behind the pro-American faction were still him. And he kept all the power in his own hands, and the two factions only served to check and balance and hold each other back. Ninety million people were deceived by Emperor Jiajing's power. Emperor Jiajing didn't really care about foreign enemies, but whoever expanded the influence of the government and threatened the rights of religion had to die. Therefore, the Ming Dynasty under Emperor Jiajing, on the other hand, showed extremely unreliable political stability, which seriously harmed the Ming Dynasty's control over East Asia, and ultimately sowed a huge disaster for the downfall of the Ming Dynasty.

As for what the Iranians want. According to rumors on some Chinese social media platforms, they want everything and have a big appetite. It's actually a sign of political uncertainty. Iran and China must first build mutual trust. Iran. China really hurt the Iranians by selling weapons to both Iran and Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war. The Iranians also hurt the Chinese over President Raisi and the Chabahar port. This Mutual trust between the two sides needs to be rebuilt.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Sure, China help Iran, supposedly, and we help Israel. Fair game.

How is China going to deliver those jets? Fly them in and risk being shot down en route? China to declare war against Israel? Good luck with that.

Bottom line is that as long as Israel controls Iranian airspace, Iranian future essentially belongs to Israel.

does Israel dare to attack Chinese pilots ? wont you think they will wait for they be delivered first and then attack them?

 

[Cash gk]

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[muhammed45]

Iran fought 8 years war with the whole west and east. Iraq had a variety of western to Eastern equipment. What happened in the end?

Now our friend @MH.Yang thinks that we are gonna give a military base to China out of fear or something.

Looks like keeping it civil with our Chinese friends becomes harder and harder.

I asked people focus on economic development, they insist on military deals.

Again, Iranian defense minister's visit to China was an scheduled SCO meeting. There maybe initial discussions about possible military cooperations but until formal confirmation, whatever people say online is just rumors, non sensical speculations and wishful thinking of users. Nothing else