Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Bro, said vehicles were empty and in a "dispersed" state. What makes them expensive is the equipment installed inside them. Making them a full fledged mobile C2 center. Also when they are operationalized, there are atleast 5 vehicles which make up entire system functioning. 01 vehicle for power and comm, 02 vehicles positioned side by side for Ops room, 01 for staff and officers, 01 for IT PCs.

Without the equipment installed, they are just simple trucks with prime movers. Hope that helps

no, you are blind and deaf?!!

he only knows regurgitation!

 

[Ali_Baba]

My acknowledgment isn’t really needed either - it’s confirmed by open source satellite imagery.

You need to provide proof of this claim of yours..

 

[side-winder]

Apart from your word - what proof do we have that they were empty at the time of the strike?

I would definitely hope they were but this doesn’t really mean anything - they still got hit - if they were fully equipped, they’d still have been hit. The underlying issue remains.

How am i supposed to show you a proof. I know what i know. Like i described you the composition of vehicles wrt the roles each vehicle has.

 

[Lion]

You need to provide proof of this claim of yours..

I posted like a dozen images already.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

If you have any counter arguments present them respectfully or stop polluting threads. I have personally never seen you contribute anything of value to the discussion, while the person you are insulting is a respected long time member.

I asked him to show:

1. Craters
2. debris from the missile attack

and on that "I was called blind'?!!!

and please dont judge me with your sh***Y ability!

 

[Lion]

Because Sir, i have seen them in operationalized state. Like i described you the composition of vehicles wrt the roles each vehicle has.

I understand that - I’m not devaluing you as a source at all - I would really hope they were just empty trucks at the time of the strike - but we can confirm just from outside imagery that they were in fact the platforms PAF uses for this purpose.
Even if they were fully equipped, and we take your word for it that they were not at this instance - the strike would have taken them out - the point being that India was able to hit them and we couldn’t stop it.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I understand that - I’m not devaluing you as a source at all - I would really hope they were just empty trucks at the time of the strike - but even if they were fully equipped, the strike would have taken them out - the point being that india was able to hit them and we couldn’t stop it.

where are the Maxar images for May 8th ( a day before the attack?!)

 

[side-winder]

I understand that - I’m not devaluing you as a source at all - I would really hope they were just empty trucks at the time of the strike - but even if they were fully equipped, the strike would have taken them out - the point being that india was able to hit them and we couldn’t stop it.

We couldn't stop alot of other attacks as well. As obvious it is. The point is about significance of the damage in terms of cost.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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I don't agree with your personal BDA assortment that these were vehicles or command centres, I think you are wrong. Pakistan has declared all causalities, and if these were "valuable" command centres, then they would have been manned by people and they would have been lost as well. None were declared as casualities....

 

[Lion]

We couldn't stop alot of other attacks as well. As obvious it is. The point is about significance of the damage in terms of cost.

That’s neither here nor there - unless you saw them a day or a week before the attack, they very well could have been equipped at the time of the attack.

 

[Princeps]

I asked him to show:

1. Craters
2. debris from the missile attack

and on that "I was called blind'?!!!

and please dont judge me with your sh***Y ability!

Both craters and debris can be discerned from the satellite imagery that is available. I don't think it can get any clearer than that.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Both craters and debris can be discerned from the satellite imagery that is available. I don't think it can get any clearer than that.

100% agree...

whats not discernable is that if 'debris' if any belong to the same command and control setup!

 

[side-winder]

That’s neither here nor there - unless you saw them a day or a week before the attack, they very well could have been equipped at the time of the attack.

Sir, 02 vehicles positioned independently serve no purpose. You need a vehicle for housing high powered generators and comm equipment. 02 vehicles for housing consoles and large LCD display along with sitting room for commanders. And rest others for housing other support equipment. Also the comm equipment antennas are installed outdoor as well which are missing in that picture as well.

If i know that You can very well count on me on them being empty

 

[Lion]

I don't agree with your personal BDA assortment that these were vehicles or command centres, I think you are wrong. Pakistan has declared all causalities, and if these were "valuable" command centres, then they would have been manned by people and they would have been lost as well. None were declared as casualities....

They are mobile command posts that are used outside of airbases, when they’re parked in an airbase, they’re definitely not being used - they were most definitely unmanned at the time of the attack, I didn’t say anywhere that we lost a few dozen crew with them - only the trucks, equipped or not equipped.

They were either empty trucks that PAF uses as command platforms when equipped, in which case we just lost the truck platforms and nothing else, or they were fully equipped and we just lost several million dollars worth of equipment. The bottom line is the same - they were hit, and they could have been hit just the same if they were manned or fully equipped. The capability gap is what I’m trying to highlight.

I’m not sure what else you think those very distinctive trucks could be, there was a PAF magazine with more images of them which is where we know of them from in the first place. They’re a Pak-Turk project.

I understand you fully believe the PAF and Pakistans word when they say they’ve declared all their losses, but I don’t, I like to be impartial.

Plus - India clearly picked its targets carefully - if india attacked them, they had a reason to do so. We were inches away from losing an AWACS - heck were meters away from a C130 in these images.

 

[Lion]

Sir, 02 vehicles positioned independently serve no purpose. You need a vehicle for housing high powered generators and comm equipment. 02 vehicles for housing consoles and large LCD display along with sitting room for commanders. And rest others for housing other support equipment. Also the comm equipment antennas are installed outdoor as well which are missing in that picture as well.

If i know that You can very well count on me on them being empty

This is entirely missing the point - I’m not saying you don’t know about the trucks. If the other three trucks were also parked there, they’d have blown up too.