Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

LMAO if this true:

In one recent instance, nearly 30 Patriot interceptors were reportedly used to defend a US base in Qatar from Iranian missile strikes, illustrating just how quickly the stockpile can be depleted under operational stress.

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/25-germany-norway-to-bail-out-kyiv/

30 interceptors against 14 missiles is not that crazy

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Speaking to the UK parliament’s foreign affairs select committee on Tuesday, Lammy said: “Iran faces even more pressure in the coming weeks because the E3 can snap back on our sanctions, and it’s not just our sanctions, it’s actually a UN mechanism that would impose dramatic sanctions on Iran across nearly every single front in its economy."

UK threatens sanctions on Iran if it does not end uncertainty on nuclear plan

Foreign secretary, David Lammy, says European nations will act if there is no cooperation with nuclear inspectors

www.theguardian.com

Psyops, threats, barking. They can and could, this is their last pressure tool. Funny, I read the article, they're angry and crying about the fact that Iran did not collapse as a nation and typically activated their fanboyism about how strong their genocidal and colonial regime is and that IsQatil could attack Iran again.

They will cry hard when Iran uses ALL of its leverage if they start to escalate. We didnt do much, strait of hormuz was left open, regional oil and gas facilities were not hit, enemy bases were not hit, only al udeid (even though hit lightly), our regional allies were not activated.

I remember their big mouth and arrogance towards Russia, same style, now they're crying (Ohh trump doesnt help, ohh kiev is burning, ohhh airdefence depleted)

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

30 interceptors against 14 missiles is not that crazy

Surely not, but the "crazy" thing is that Iran, in theory, is able to finish their yearly production of interceptors in just 10 days, by firing 28 missiles a day.

The U.S. reportedly holds only about 25% of the Patriot missile interceptors needed to meet its global military plans. The shortfall prompted a temporary pause in shipments to allies such as Ukraine to preserve national readiness.

The U.S. Army operates approximately 483 Patriot launcher units, and stocks of interceptors (missiles) are critically low .

Lockheed Martin is the primary producer of the PAC–3 MSE interceptor. Production rate as of late 2024: 500/year produced.

 

[ShapurII]

Another example of being passive:

Alireza Faghani, an Iranian referee, shook hands with Trump.
Do you know why these idiots do whatever they want? Because there's no cost to this type of behavior. If his Iranian nationality is revoked after this, other f*ckers will finally learn that there's a price to pay for this sort of behavior.

Surely not, but the "crazy" thing is that Iran, in theory, is able to finish their yearly production of interceptors in just 10 days, by firing 28 missiles a day.

Yearly production and industrial capacity are very different things. I'm sure the US can mass-produce over 100 such interceptors in a month if it wants to.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Psyops, threats, barking. They can and could, this is their last pressure tool. Funny, I read the article, they're angry and crying about the fact that Iran did not collapse as a nation and typically activated their fanboyism about how strong their genocidal and colonial regime is and that IsQatil could attack Iran again.

They will cry hard when Iran uses ALL of its leverage if they start to escalate. We didnt do much, strait of hormuz was left open, regional oil and gas facilities were not hit, enemy bases were not hit, only al udeid (even though hit lightly), our regional allies were not activated.

I remember their big mouth and arrogance towards Russia, same style, now they're crying (Ohh trump doesnt help, ohh kiev is burning, ohhh airdefence depleted)

I think you have a lot of hopium

the reality is that they will invoke snapback and then Iran will be back under UNSC sanctions (wasted last 10 years for nothing) and with possibly no enrichment capability since Natanz was for sure destroyed and Fordow heavily damaged (per Araghchi)

closing Strait of Hormoz is suicide, the only one proven to be barking with no bite is the IR and IRGC.

 

[ShapurII]

I think you have a lot of hopium

the reality is that they will invoke snapback and then Iran will be back under UNSC sanctions (wasted last 10 years for nothing) and with possibly no enrichment capability since Natanz was for sure destroyed and Fordow heavily damaged (per Araghchi)

closing Strait or Hormoz is suicide, the only one proven to be barking with no bite is the IR and IRGC.

People don't understand that as soon as the snapback mechanism is triggered, Iran will no longer be able to buy any weapons from any country in the world.

Imagine fighting the NATO when you are not allowed to buy weapons.

Also, we'll literally be on the edge of Article 42 of Chapter VII of the UN charter then.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Another example of being passive:

Alireza Faghani, an Iranian referee, shook hands with Trump.
Do you know why these idiots do whatever they want? Because there's no cost to this type of behavior. If his Iranian nationality is revoked after this, other f*ckers will finally learn that there's a price to pay for this sort of behavior.

he moved to Australia a long time ago, he doesn't live in Iran

and IRI is already talking about returning to negotiations with the US, why should he risk his job and livelihood to do something even the IRI isn't doing?

 

[ShapurII]

he already moved to Australia a long time ago, he doesn't live in Iran

I know, but the Iranian committee of referees in Iran still suck up to him. And he still holds an Iranian passport. His passport and Iranian nationality should be annulled.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Surely not, but the "crazy" thing is that Iran, in theory, is able to finish their yearly production of interceptors in just 10 days, by firing 28 missiles a day.

The U.S. reportedly holds only about 25% of the Patriot missile interceptors needed to meet its global military plans. The shortfall prompted a temporary pause in shipments to allies such as Ukraine to preserve national readiness.

The U.S. Army operates approximately 483 Patriot launcher units, and stocks of interceptors (missiles) are critically low .

Lockheed Martin is the primary producer of the PAC–3 MSE interceptor. Production rate as of late 2024: 500/year produced.

the patriot interceptors were Qatar's own systems

 

[vmro]

But what this panel doesn't mention is that the other aspect of Iran's deterrence was the militias and they have been largely neutralized now, and thus Israel attacked Iran.

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Largely neutralized in that context of the Axis is Hezbollah, which is a painful blow, but also zionistic militias instead of being Saddam Hussein 2.0 became a laughing stock, could not get even close to Iranian borders... ISIS or great Kurdistan or you name it, spectacularly failed on the distance...

Assad was never actively involved in battles with idf, he was a corridor to get into Lebanon for Hezbollah... Iraqi militias also... Yemenis are still capable, while Hamas having nothing to lose, inflicts real damage on IDF, not only in killings of IDF terrorists but also taking their time focus, and resources...

So without the USA, Iran is a match for the Israelis now, even alone... connection with Yemenis should be preserved firmly, what is also focus-wasteful for zionists...

But without Syria should be clear that the Axis is not a realistic concept anymore....at least as it was before..

 

[Garcia Sea]

The reformists' continued weakness even after the ceasefire is leading the situation toward the worst possible outcome.
By July, UN sanctions imposing a full blockade and disarmament on Iran will be reinstated, leaving Iran without even the right to self-defense.
It’s a repeat of what happened to Iraq.
The West and Israel are now convinced that Iran will not resist no matter what they do. With no withdrawal from the NPT and no blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, they are free to impose sanctions, bombings, and assassinations as they please.
European countries have already explicitly added Iran’s missile abandonment to their list of demands.
Unless the IRGC stages a coup and Khamenei wakes up, Iran will lose its national sovereignty by the end of this month.

 

[ShapurII]

The reformists' continued weakness even after the ceasefire is leading the situation toward the worst possible outcome.
By July, UN sanctions imposing a full blockade and disarmament on Iran will be reinstated, leaving Iran without even the right to self-defense.
It’s a repeat of what happened to Iraq.
The West and Israel are now convinced that Iran will not resist no matter what they do. With no withdrawal from the NPT and no blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, they are free to impose sanctions, bombings, and assassinations as they please.
European countries have already explicitly added Iran’s missile abandonment to their list of demands.
Unless the IRGC stages a coup and Khamenei wakes up, Iran will lose its national sovereignty by the end of this month.

Maybe not this month, but it will happen eventually, and soon. Less than 2 years in my opinion.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

I think you have a lot of hopium

the reality is that they will invoke snapback and then Iran will be back under UNSC sanctions (wasted last 10 years for nothing) and with possibly no enrichment capability since Natanz was for sure destroyed and Fordow heavily damaged (per Araghchi)

closing Strait of Hormoz is suicide, the only one proven to be barking with no bite is the IR and IRGC.

The current western order is already being destroyed by westerners and zionists themselves (UN and ICC, IAEA for example), heavily sanctioning Iran and Russia.

If they want to go that direction, destroying the little leverage that they have, well Iran is already heavily sanctioned, so what will be changed in reality if the snapback is activated:

Key Point:
Iran is already locked out of the dollar system, SWIFT, and Western markets. So UN snapback wouldn't add much new pain on the ground — except diplomatically.

Would Snapback Matter Economically?
Only Marginally — Iran has adjusted:

1. Oil sales continue — to China and via opaque networks.
   • Iran exported ~1.5 million barrels/day in 2024, near pre-sanctions levels (via gray market).
2. Banking system is already disconnected from major global finance.
3. Defense sales already limited — arms embargo expired in 2020 (but is de facto enforced by West anyway).
4. Trade is increasingly Eurasia-/Asia-focused:
   • Joined BRICS in 2024
   • Signed Free Trade Agreement with Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU)
   • Expanding barter and rupee-yuan-rial-based trades

So reimposing UN sanctions won’t “crash” the Iranian economy — it’s already adapted to isolation. Think of it as a 10–15% worsening overall, but mostly in non-material (diplomatic/legal) domains, rather than direct economic collapse.

 

[vmro]

People don't understand that as soon as the snapback mechanism is triggered, Iran will no longer be able to buy any weapons from any country in the world.

Imagine fighting the NATO when you are not allowed to buy weapons.

Also, we'll literally be on the edge of Article 42 of Chapter VII of the UN charter then.

You think that China will also follow that snapchat back mechanism? For Russia I know, but N Korea for sure will not, at least imho...

 

[Kyussis]

This is not a good way of expressing some pro-Iranian statements, absolutely unnecessary to make an artificial dividing of "Persian" monarchists vs Iranian patriots...

Persians are Iranian people, Iran is the national country of Iranians, and while Persians are the largest ethnicity in Iran, Persian language is lingua franca and Persian culture is a global brand... But Persian element is not excluded from Iranian entirety, and it has never been...

It's the same situation now as well as the last 3 millenia...

If I say that English monarchists are pissed off by British patriots, it would be the same style of nonsense...

Absolutely unnecessary way of interpretation...

"persian" monarchist already divided themselves from Iranians by their support for Israel's attack on Iran for the purpose of putting the clown prince to Power in Tehran. WTF are you talking about?