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[Hack-Hook]

You still don't understand no one cares if the city is flattened out or not

The city image will be ruined and the psychological impact would be devastating as they always thought they live in an eternal protected land that would never suffer of what they did to others

you don't get the psychological impact is 10 time worse than pearl harbor , USA won't stop until its force reach Tehran and if you think Russia and china help you are completely wrong and if you are thinking Iran army and IRGC is ready for an all out war with USA in a war that USA public is behind the USA politician you are a lot more wrong
and you are far far more gullible than I taught if you think USA allow Iran base ships in war time anywhere near Pacific or Atlantic ocean , the only way they can do such attack against USA mainland is if Iran and USA are at peace and Iran do a surprise attack against USA AKA Iran start the war with USA

 

[Flames In The Desert]

Very interesting.

Please note that small missile of that FAC seems to be not anti air, seems to be a short range surface to surface missile. Moreover, that FAC doesn´t have air search radar.

On the other hand it is interesting to see how that Ghadir SSM can fire in moving condition and with NO radar (some other vehicle may search and block the target), it is so important because ESM systems aboard USS DDG ships can track, analyze and destroy easily those radars (they usually do with Houthis missiles) so it is easy to answer back with Tomahawk missiles or MH60R armed with Hellfire/Penguin missiles or even F15/16 stationed on neighboring countries. Separating search radar and launcher vehicles gives much more resilience.

Like most of these types of weapons it would have limited anti air capabilities against things like low flying/low speed aircraft such as helos and drones,tho this would also depend on the performance of associated systems like optronics for target search and detection.
Regardless this is still a huge increase in capability over the older unguided rockets that would`ve only had effective ranges in the very low hundreds of meters [at best] against large targets.
I would imagine that when it comes to ashcms,iran now has a variety,not just of target acquisition systems at its disposal,but also of various seeker options for the missiles themselves.This combo likely gives iran great flexibility in targeting enemy warships.

 

[Tehrani021]

yes we must have , the problem is we don't have it so..
about attacking USA , again what next after firing those missiles at a place like Miami ?
what strategic value Miami will have in fight between Iran and USA?
are we supposed to attack USA randomly? if so can you explain the difference between us and Israel ?

I was going to ask you the same. The same issues would apply if Iran were to attack Israel as if they would Miami. This is why NFU would have to be only sensible policy for Iran.

 

[Immortals]

Stepping back, and looking at the ballistic missiles on globetrotting ships strategically, this is obviously the various pieces of a nuclear triad falling in place.

No not nuclear triad. That will be achieved with Besat submarine.

This is to make US warships stay far Away from FOBs and give them an extra layer of defense. Even if probability of being hit with the missile is low, the US destroyer or cruiser will have to take into account. It gives a moving Aerial Denial space for Iran by having them abroad.

In short: gives the FOBs more offensive firepower to keep potential enemies at a safe distance and secure the waters around the ship

 

[Hack-Hook]

I was going to ask you the same. The same issues would apply if Iran were to attack Israel as if they would Miami. This is why NFU would have to be only sensible policy for Iran.

in israel we can attack places with strategic value , like aircraft bunkers , air defense radars an launchers , command centers , barracks , factories that make weapons .places that produce electricity .
in Miami , just some high rise building

 

[Tehrani021]

in israel we can attack places with strategic value , like aircraft bunkers , air defense radars an launchers , command centers , barracks , factories that make weapons .places that produce electricity .
in Miami , just some high rise building

But the response would be the same, right? Also you don't need nukes to do that, nor do you need to launch them from a ship in the case of Israel. Also If we can take our boats all the way to US, why target highrises?! Wouldn't there be a plethora military and political targets?

 

[Hack-Hook]

But the response would be the same, right? Also you don't need nukes to do that, nor do you need to launch them from a ship in the case of Israel. Also If we can take our boats all the way to US, why target highrises?! Wouldn't there be a plethora military and political targets?

no , with Israel all the discussion was about retaliating against Israel attack against its armed force outside Israel . here the talk is not about retaliating to USA attack , the talk is about start a war with USA by a surprise attack against mainland USA and the target is civilian areas

and no in war time we can't take our boats all the way there ,

 

[Shadihassan28]

US attacking homeland Iran, killing civilians and soldiers using conventional method, and Iran retaliating using conventional method inside US homeland is going far for Iran?

This oozes the cliché of the US that cannot and will never get retaliated inside their home simply because they "are the bests in the world and no one can touch them"

US is going to wipe Iran off the map because conventional BM strikes on its soil in response to massacre/strikes inside Iran? The first thing they would do is nuclear blackmailing, anyone thinking they would nuke Iran lives in another world

When has America attacked iran and killed civilians or soldiers in iran, not including solomeni who was killed outside of iran,.but again I’m not talking about who has killed soldiers or civilians past or present I’m talking about would iran really calculate putting a cargo ship that may launch a few dozen missiles into America no they won’t Israel yes I can see that

 

[Shadihassan28]

Nuclear detterance in a NFU (not first use) policy levies a dear cost to any nuclear power attacking another nuclear power. This is what Iran's doctrine should be, and you'll find it is the same doctrine of Russia and China. No point in having nukes if you don't intend to use them in any situation.

The point in having them is to make sure another more powerful doesn’t attack it’s been about 80 years since the atom was used god forbid we ever have a true nuclear war between the big 3 nuclear powers thousands upon thousands of nukes being used

 

[jauk]

yes yes
city of Dezful received around 170 missile and 850 bomb in the war and each year it bombed by 2500 cannon shell , half of that was enough to flatten the city , the flow of life in the city never stopped during the wall and even Friday praying never stopped for one week.

firing missile randomly at Miami only result in erection of such statue there
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by the way Miami is 4 time more populous as dezful at the time

Ok? You set an irrelevant example and then prove it. So?

 

[Tehrani021]

The point in having them is to make sure another more powerful doesn’t attack it’s been about 80 years since the atom was used god forbid we ever have a true nuclear war between the big 3 nuclear powers thousands upon thousands of nukes being used

Yes but you still need to have some idea of how you will use them in the event of an attack or threat to the state. No having a plan would mean eventually someone down the line will call your bluff. 80 years is relatively short time in relation to how long humans have been in existence.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Ok? You set an irrelevant example and then prove it. So?

example is a city that get bombed by missile , whats the difference

 

[jauk]

example is a city that get bombed by missile , whats the difference

No difference. I still don't understand your point.

 

[Shadihassan28]

You still don't understand no one cares if the city is flattened out or not

The city image will be ruined and the psychological impact would be devastating as they always thought they live in an eternal protected land that would never suffer of what they did to others

September 11………America is vulnerable to attack at anytime like all other countries all over the world and peaceful you got to be kidding me gun violence galore here.

 

[Messerschmitt]

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