Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ToddE]

I think Khamenei has served his purpose.

He ruined Iran's golden generation. We had a peak of youths who were well-educated and could change the country for the better. Now, the average age of an Iranian is close to 35. Our work force is getting old, our social security is already close to complete bankruptcy. Fertility rate has dropped below 1.6 like highly developed European countries. We do not have enough water to sustain urban life in our major cities and we have no air force to defend our country. We have no nuclear deterrence to slightly change the balance in our favor either.

Now that the fool has served his purpose, it's time for change. I'm really afraid that what we are witnessing are the last years of Iran as we know it.

Historically speaking, many nations have gone through the same thing (foreign interference and eventual disarray and chaos) but only few of them managed to reorganize and get their shit together. Most of them lost their identity and territories for several decades, and usually centuries. And who knows what will happen decades later or centuries later with the advance of AI and neuroscience?

Khamenei will not leave until those who planted him in power and benefited from him allow him to leave. If he dies by old age one day, they will make sure that his predecessor is even weaker than him, probably already selected.

Khamenei is just one stupid man, IRI itself is a faulty or dysfunctional system of conservative theocracy run on socialist economy to control a highly educated progressive society. A recipe for disaster. Enemies of Iran know this very well so they make sure that this system survives. Israel attacked IRGC's CoC, scientists in their homes but left Majles shits and Khamenei untouched, wonder why? Because if Iran is left on its own it will become what it has always been, a filthy rich powerhouse sitting on and controlling Eurasian borders. Again why would anyone want that?

 

[ShapurII]

Khamenei will not leave until those who planted him in power and benefited from him allow him to leave. If he dies by old age one day, they will make sure that his predecessor is even weaker than him, probably already selected.

Khamenei is just one stupid man, IRI itself is a faulty or dysfunctional system of conservative theocracy run on socialist economy to control a highly educated progressive society. A recipe for disaster. Enemies of Iran know this very well so they make sure that this system survives. Israel attacked IRGC's CoC, scientists in their homes but left Majles shits and Khamenei untouched, wonder why? Because if Iran is left on its own it will become what it has always been, a filthy rich powerhouse sitting on and controlling Eurasian borders. Again why would anyone want that?

Honestly, I'm always against the idea that a single person can ruin an entire system if the system is not corrupt to the core, and if there are enough rational internal players to provide fail-safe mechanisms in the system.

I think we are back to the time of Qajar, the only difference is that this time we are better educated in science and technology, but still quite gullible and uniformed (as a nation) about the schemes and plots that they have planned for us. We have two opposing groups who serve different power blocs in the world. Khamenei and his shills who serve the interests of Russia, and the reformists, currently led by Rohani, formerly led by Rafsanjani, who serve the interests of the collective West.

Khamenei is possibly the easiest target to lay all the blame on, and he obviously deserves most of it, but he isn't the only factor that we have reached where we are now. A lot of people could've stopped this madness, but preferred to play along with it to keep their interests intact and they thought the status quo would continue for the foreseeable future as long as Iran did not cross the red lines of world powers directly.

Tsarist Russia was perhaps the world's leading power in military and even Russia briefly went through the same period of foreign interference, confusion and disarray, betrayal and even civil war (Red and White armies) before Stalin finally came to power and stabilized the country. Lenin openly called for foreign interference in Tsarist Russia to gain power and bring him back to Russia, sort of like today's Reza Pahlavi. Will Iran be able to do the same in future? Probably, but I'm not optimistic at all.

 

[ToddE]

Honestly, I'm always against the idea that a single person can ruin an entire system if the system is not corrupt to the core, and if there are enough rational internal players to provide fail-safe mechanisms in the system.

I think we are back to the time of Qajar, the only difference is that this time we are better educated in science and technology, but still quite gullible and uniformed (as a nation) about the schemes and plots that they have planned for us. We have two opposing groups who serve different power blocs in the world. Khamenei and his shills who serve the interests of Russia, and the reformists, currently led by Rohani, formerly led by Rafsanjani, who serve the interests of the collective West.

People love to shit on Qajars but remember it was them who rejoined 7 parts of Iran to re-create the empire. Mohammad Khan Qajar destroyed enemies of Iran. Abbas Mirza and his brother Dowlatshah destroyed Ottomans so bad they could not touch Iran again ever. Later ones were shits but thats what happens to empires. They were by no means traitors or weak otherwise Iran would have been a fractured state at the end of Afshar empire. They fought like lions against Tsarist Russian army to save Azerbaijan and Armenia. Failed yes but even the royals themselves died defending the country. Even the last one Ahmad Shah had enough political sanity that he knew he was weak to deal with crisis at borders and inside so he preferred to leave rather than stick to the crown like Khamenei. It was his decision to leave that brought out lion hearted Reza Khan to regather Iran from post WWI crisis.

Current Iran is lacking such a hero who can come out and drain the swamp to get rid of traitors or dysfunctional IRI system altogether. Soleimani showed such independent sentience but was burnt out from inside Iran. Probably Raisi was also showing these signs so was killed as well. Iran is just too previous for foreign powers to be left alone and IRI is favored by both blocks of the world because they are ensuring that Iran does not create its own pole like it always has in past.

Khamenei is possibly the easiest target to lay all the blame on, and he obviously deserves most of it, but he isn't the only factor that we have reached where we are now. A lot of people could've stopped this madness, but preferred to play along with it to keep their interests intact and they thought the status quo would continue for the foreseeable future as long as Iran did not cross the red lines of world powers directly.

Tsarist Russia was perhaps the world's leading power in military and even Russia briefly went through the same period of foreign interference, confusion and disarray, betrayal and even civil war (Red and White armies) before Stalin finally came to power and stabilized the country. Lenin openly called for foreign interference in Tsarist Russia to gain power and bring him back to Russia, sort of like today's Reza Pahlavi. Will Iran be able to do the same in future? Probably, but I'm not optimistic at all.

Agreed, he is just one man which is why I call the IRI system to be dysfunctional by default, a socialist theocracy. Problem with Khamenei is that he has sat upon this system for close to 4 decades now, he could have turned Iran into Japan or France of ME if he was sincere. He had absolute power. Instead he focused on pitting reformists vs conservatives, politicising nuclear program, making policies that surprisingly always benefitted Russia in the end.

IRI is a shit show of hundreds of idiots. Khamenei just happens to be the biggest of them all.

 

[kastor ville]

As I live and breathe.....I never thought they'd listen, they're reading our posts and finally doing something!

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[kastor ville]

Honestly, I'm always against the idea that a single person can ruin an entire system if the system is not corrupt to the core, and if there are enough rational internal players to provide fail-safe mechanisms in the system.

I think we are back to the time of Qajar, the only difference is that this time we are better educated in science and technology, but still quite gullible and uniformed (as a nation) about the schemes and plots that they have planned for us. We have two opposing groups who serve different power blocs in the world. Khamenei and his shills who serve the interests of Russia, and the reformists, currently led by Rohani, formerly led by Rafsanjani, who serve the interests of the collective West.

Khamenei is possibly the easiest target to lay all the blame on, and he obviously deserves most of it, but he isn't the only factor that we have reached where we are now. A lot of people could've stopped this madness, but preferred to play along with it to keep their interests intact and they thought the status quo would continue for the foreseeable future as long as Iran did not cross the red lines of world powers directly.

Tsarist Russia was perhaps the world's leading power in military and even Russia briefly went through the same period of foreign interference, confusion and disarray, betrayal and even civil war (Red and White armies) before Stalin finally came to power and stabilized the country. Lenin openly called for foreign interference in Tsarist Russia to gain power and bring him back to Russia, sort of like today's Reza Pahlavi. Will Iran be able to do the same in future? Probably, but I'm not optimistic at all.

Again, I hear you....it's hard to blame a grandfather, you know what I mean? He means well, but obviously, he's out of his league. Seriously, I like him and respect him, but the world is a dangerous place and he's not equipped for it, none of the clergy should be in charge of defense and intelligence apparatus. We need professionals, talented people in those field doing the leading.

 

[kastor ville]

People love to shit on Qajars but remember it was them who rejoined 7 parts of Iran to re-create the empire. Mohammad Khan Qajar destroyed enemies of Iran. Abbas Mirza and his brother Dowlatshah destroyed Ottomans so bad they could not touch Iran again ever. Later ones were shits but thats what happens to empires. They were by no means traitors or weak otherwise Iran would have been a fractured state at the end of Afshar empire. They fought like lions against Tsarist Russian army to save Azerbaijan and Armenia. Failed yes but even the royals themselves died defending the country. Even the last one Ahmad Shah had enough political sanity that he knew he was weak to deal with crisis at borders and inside so he preferred to leave rather than stick to the crown like Khamenei. It was his decision to leave that brought out lion hearted Reza Khan to regather Iran from post WWI crisis.

Current Iran is lacking such a hero who can come out and drain the swamp to get rid of traitors or dysfunctional IRI system altogether. Soleimani showed such independent sentience but was burnt out from inside Iran. Probably Raisi was also showing these signs so was killed as well. Iran is just too previous for foreign powers to be left alone and IRI is favored by both blocks of the world because they are ensuring that Iran does not create its own pole like it always has in past.





Agreed, he is just one man which is why I call the IRI system to be dysfunctional by default, a socialist theocracy. Problem with Khamenei is that he has sat upon this system for close to 4 decades now, he could have turned Iran into Japan or France of ME if he was sincere. He had absolute power. Instead he focused on pitting reformists vs conservatives, politicising nuclear program, making policies that surprisingly always benefitted Russia in the end.

IRI is a shit show of hundreds of idiots. Khamenei just happens to be the biggest of them all.

What I would like to hear from Iranians is that yes, we need a functional, professional government......but I don't agree with us needing a strongman, we need a good system, first. A strongman could lead us down the path of dictatorship, and too many people died getting rid of the Shah, and too many people died defending our post Shah country......we don't need to turn time back, we need to forge ahead with a better system.

 

[kastor ville]

I watched an analysis by a Pentagon official . He clearly stated that the entire planning was done at the Pentagon. They had built these groups inside Iran for years . 90% of the attacks were from inside Iran. American and Israeli jet into the Iranian airspace from Iraq to Isfahan. They probably from in from the north as well .
People need to understand that this is the post ceasefire psychological war .
They are vicious, calculating murders. All these have been calculated in advance and they’re being played out one after another. All of these anonymous accounts that pop up on X who they keep posting short clips of what appears to be afighter jet flying during a day.

These are the same people that have started a smearing campaign against one of their own veterans who put his life on the line. Tony Aguilar called out the murder of the five-year-old Palestinian boy who was shot in the head execution style by the IDF.

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That's what happens when you keep your population innocent and easily fooled by outsiders. Iranian traitors, I almost feel sorry for them....I wonder how many of them were duped into believing they're actually helping their country.

 

[kastor ville]

No insult towards Slavic people whatsoever. I know many .They are solid people . They are Christians , honest , and faithful people .

My point was that there’s some similarities in the appearance of these Ashkenazi Jews, and Khazarians to Slavs .

Honest is perhaps stretching it a bit, I'm married to a Slavic woman...lol

 

[kastor ville]

Qalibaf would be good, I don't really care if he takes his family to luxury holidays in Turkey they're all corrupt anyway

Ok, you lost me bro, he's a Ted Cruz of Iran......I would rather have a mannequin in charge before that SOB

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[Hassan Al-Somal]

they are SPICE bombs which are dropped by F-15 and F-16 fighter jets

The Spice bombs were developed by the Rafael Advanced systems in Haifa, Israel (Occupied Palestine). On June 15, 2025, Iranian ballistic missiles struck Rafael and caused massive fire in their R&D and manufacturing facilities.

Rafael under attack: Iran’s strike on Israel’s security hub

On Sunday night, Iranian missiles targeted Rafael, one of Israel’s most important arms companies — the manufacturer of the Iron Dome and a leader in developing new defense technologies.

www.mizanonline.ir

 

[Persian Gulf]

The Spice bombs were developed by the Rafael Advanced systems in Haifa, Israel (Occupied Palestine). On June 15, 2025, Iranian ballistic missiles struck Rafael and caused massive fire in their R&D and manufacturing facilities.


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Rafael under attack: Iran’s strike on Israel’s security hub

On Sunday night, Iranian missiles targeted Rafael, one of Israel’s most important arms companies — the manufacturer of the Iron Dome and a leader in developing new defense technologies.

www.mizanonline.ir

let me tell you how stupid and unreliable Iranian news channels are.

this image is from an Iranian oil refinery after it was attacked by Israel on June 15th.

Instead, Iranian media creates a nice story that Iran attacked Rafael and uses the image of the Iranian refinery on fire for that article. And gullible people who do not bother to corroborate these low quality sources spread it on forums like this website to hide IRI's incompetence and failures.

Here's why oil markets are relatively muted from the Israel-Iran conflict | Fortune

The biggest key is that Israel has yet to touch Iran's oil-exporting facilities.

fortune.com

@ShapurII

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran FM Abbas Araghchi on Iran’s 60% enriched uranium stockpile:

"I don’t know. Honestly, I don’t know—because they were in places that were bombed. I don’t have exact information or precise figures, but generally, I know they were in facilities that were bombed."

 

[Persian Gulf]

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as we talked about before, they are discussing 6 month extension to snapback deadline with EU

the "conditions" probably including letting IAEA back into Iran

 

[FUB]

these are not serious 'analysts'. Scott Ritter is a convicted pedophile.

Mearsheimer is a smart guy for political doctrine and lobbying in the US but he's not an expert on military conflicts.

Hmm. Not a serious analyst, you say? So an intel officer, with expertise in battle damage analysis, a ballistic missile intelligence analyst, and a chief UN weapons inspector is not a fundamental analyst but some random guy on X, Mohsen Reyhani, and Soheil are real analysts.

Military background​

In May 1984, he was commissioned as an intelligence officer in the United States Marine Corps. He served in this capacity for about 12 years. He was the lead analyst for the Marine Corps Rapid Deployment Force concerning the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the Iran–Iraq War.During Desert Storm (1991), as a Marine captain, he served as a ballistic missile intelligence analyst under General Norman Schwarzkopf. Ritter filed multiple internal reports challenging Schwarzkopf's claim that the US had destroyed "as many as 16" of Iraq's estimated 20 mobile Scud missile launchers, arguing that they could not be confirmed. In 1992 Ritter was quoted in a New York Times op-ed saying "No mobile Scud launchers were destroyed during the war."

UN Weapons inspector
Ritter worked as a weapons inspector for the United Nations Special Commission from 1991 to 1998, which was charged with finding and destroying all weapons of mass destruction and WMD-related manufacturing capabilities in Iraq. He was the chief inspector in fourteen of more than thirty inspection missions in which he participated.

The last ten years have been an eye-opener, to say the least. If you paid attention, you would realize that everything is fake. Everyone who criticizes the machine, Israel, or the wrong people they are smeared. All one needs to do is take a look at the MeToo movement. They changed local statutes to go after people. For example, Russell Brand has a big show on Rumble and was vehemently against the vaccine mandates. Now he is fighting for his life against sexual assault allegations. I do not know the facts about Scott Ritter's case, but the first allegation was dismissed. Once someone is smeared, their wiki page is locked.

I think we’re coming from very different perspectives. Let’s leave it there.