Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[hussain0216]

I cannot think of a single parallel in world history wherein a nation has sacrificed as much as Iran has for another people, the Palestinians. There is no rational, logical reason for Iranians to have given so much of their energy and resources to some else's cause, for the past 45 years, as Iran has done for the Palestinian cause. There is no economic reason, no reason of kinship, no reason of military strategy for this focus and sacrifice of other possible opportunities for the Iranian people's well-being. Can't you see this?

Their is the U.S and it's utter simpish behaviour for Israel

But then thats more due to Jew control of the U.S

 

[Liquidator]

Their is the U.S and it's utter simpish behaviour for Israel

But then thats more due to Jew control of the U.S

I ignored this senile rat long ago, suggest you do the same.

 

[PakAl]

It’s highly dateable statement from you that Iran “lost military or achieved no damage”. So you honestly believe that Israel would agree to stop the conflict if they had the upper hand in attrition?

Israel announced they will carry out 14 days operation and finished it on the 12st day. They will come for some more. Hopefully Iran is prepared.

 

[PakAl]

Why do guys think we are here because of the Palestinians? We didn't get to this level because of Palestine....we got a lot of other issues. Iran has had bad policies for decades...it just took a while for the US to tighten the noose around our neck. Let's start by the hostage taking, then the Persian Gulf harassments, then Lebanon, after that Hamas, and the PLO...the the Iraq war. We've been warning about these outcomes for a decade,.only to get shouted down by the islamists in our country....there is no reformists, the whole thing is a farce. It's all the Friday prayer crowd's doing. You got dumb people in charge, over and out.

Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad were not much of a threat to Israel or Usa but were toppled. Usa Israel do not accept any Independent nations. If tomorrow Iran agrees to open up to the west then they will slowly be accepted but what the Usa Israel will do is slowly make plans to topple the revolutionary government. They will never allow an independent ideological government/nation to exist. Bashar al Assad was a secular arab nationalist but they still did not accept him only because he refused to be a puppet, Gaddafi thought of himself to be a revolutionary Islamic leader and they finished him too.

As long as the Islamic regime exists Iran will continue to face threats. Iran biggest mistake was to make so many threats on international platforms and for domestic audience that they trapped themselves, today the western world is after them but Iran doesn't have enough means to defend themselves.

I understand some Iranian members believe Iran has done well but they got bombed by Israel for 12 days, Iran could not stop this, next time Israel will make sure all ballistic missiles launchers are destroyed, and then Iran will have no means to fire back. Iran must be able to launch ballistic and cruise missiles from submarines, destroyers, frigates, they also need fighter jets to make sure Israel doesn't have any access to Iranian airspace. People forget Israel also has ballistic and cruise missile capability and they are armed with battlefield nukes, Israel also possess suitcase nukes and from a military point of view this is a major threat to Iran existence.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[PakAl]

Not really. Trump is the one who covered up for Israeli preparations for the war through negotiations.

Trump's only excuse for not wanting a war with Iran was the risk of losing American soldiers. Didn't you see how proudly and happily he talked about bombing Iran right after hitting Natanz, Isfahan and Fordow?

Trump gave Iran 60 days to secure agreement but no deal was reached and on the 61st day Israel attacked Iran. Usa Israel must have degraded Iranian capabilities or else they would be making alot of noise right now.

 

[Shafagh]

I know. I have seen the footage. Thats not what i meant. I was saying Iran did not severely damage Israel's military capabilities.

 

[kastor ville]

You got to be kidding

Do you realize that the majority of Iranians are against the Ayatollahs?

Do you realize that's why so many Israeli agents have been arrested in Iran during the war? Some people dislike and distrust the Ayatollahs to the point that they're working with the enemy to topple them. And you think Iranians are naive and never question people in authority?

Do you realize PDF is one of the most pro-IR platforms on the internet where Iranians participate and yet everyone here is calling them incompetent?

The IR is losing its last remaining base of supporters. If they cannot defend Iran and prevent Iran from turning into Syria, there is zero doubt that the regime will be toppled either by a foreign invasion or a civil war. The last thing that the IR provided was security and even that seems to be gone now.

It's been an even split for a while....I wouldn't call it a blow out.
Don't tell me how you feel.....show me proof

This is from a Gallup poll.....a highly respected polling company here in the State.

 

[PakAl]

I know. I have seen the footage. Thats not what i meant. I was saying Iran did not severely damage Israel's military capabilities.

Israel made it clear if Iran does significant damage to Israel then Israel will retaliate by destroying all Iranian ports, economy infrastructure, bases etc and Israel claimed they only targeting nuclear and missile facilities. Possibly some background agreement was done to avoid military bases, nuclear reactors etc. I guess it wasn't a full blown out war.

 

[kastor ville]

Israel made it clear if Iran does significant damage to Israel then Israel will retaliate by destroying all Iranian ports, economy infrastructure, bases etc and Israel claimed they only targeting nuclear and missile facilities. Possibly some background agreement was done to avoid military bases, nuclear reactors etc. I guess it wasn't a full blown out war.

And what? Do you think Iran would sit back and let them hit us without hitting back? They're just as afraid of getting destroyed as we are.....they're tiny, and they have no oil, at least we can rebuild with the oil money, they need to go out an whore money from other countries to rebuild....by that time all of the important people and businesses would've left for safety.

 

[FUB]

An example of kissing the arse of fake jews . Indians seem to be falling all over themselves .
Here is a retarded Indian


It is interesting every deviant act or human misery is led by a certain group
Trans movement
Magnus Hirschfeld
Interesting, gender dysphoria is recognized in Iran as a mental disorder affecting roughly one and 100,000 people. In the US they pray on people with mental disorders each one is worth millions.
Karl Marx
Founder of Communist ideology.
Responsible for the murder of hundreds of millions people worldwide .

Feminism
In America and Western hemisphere was responsible for destroying the family unit. The catalyst for the movement were Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem, and Shulamith Firestone.

Usary -
Judaism (Old Testament/Torah): Forbade charging interest (“usury”) to fellow Israelites, but permitted it with foreigners (Exodus 22:25, Deuteronomy 23:19–20).

 

[ShapurII]

Trump gave Iran 60 days to secure agreement but no deal was reached and on the 61st day Israel attacked Iran. Usa Israel must have degraded Iranian capabilities or else they would be making alot of noise right now.

The deadline had already been extended by the Americans.
Also, we already had reached a deal with them, then they came up with an offer that was 180 degrees different from what we had agreed on.
So, nope. Bullshit.

 

[ShapurII]

It's been an even split for a while....I wouldn't call it a blow out.
Don't tell me how you feel.....show me proof

This is from a Gallup poll.....a highly respected polling company here in the State.


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None of these "polling" companies are reputable. Polling is pseudoscience.
How have they sampled their data to begin with?
Have they asked 90 million Iranians?
I don't remember being asked about my opinion by them.

I don't need to prove it. I am an Iranian. Approval of the country's local and foreign policies is well below 20%. Any poll that shows otherwise is automatically wrong.
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Here's a different poll. See how it's all statistical nonsense?

An opinion survey involving 158,000 people in Iran showed that more than 80 percent of respondents reject the Islamic Republic and prefer a democratic government.

The Netherlands-based Gamaan institute conducted the survey from December 21-31, which also included a sample of 42,000 respondents in the diaspora, revealed very similar attitudes between those in the country and abroad.

“In response to the question “Islamic Republic: Yes or No?” 81% of respondents inside the country responded “No” to the Islamic Republic, 15% responded “Yes” and 4% were not sure. Of the Iranian respondents abroad, 99% responded “No,” opting against the Islamic Republic,” GAMAAN reported.

Opinion Survey Reveals Overwhelming Majority Rejecting Iran’s Regime

An opinion survey involving 158,000 people in Iran showed that more than 80 percent of respondents reject the Islamic Republic and prefer a democratic government.

www.iranintl.com

 

[muhammed45]

An example of kissing the arse of fake jews . Indians seem to be falling all over themselves .
Here is a retarded Indian


It is interesting every deviant act or human misery is led by a certain group
Trans movement
Magnus Hirschfeld
Interesting, gender dysphoria is recognized in Iran as a mental disorder affecting roughly one and 100,000 people. In the US they pray on people with mental disorders each one is worth millions.
Karl Marx
Founder of Communist ideology.
Responsible for the murder of hundreds of millions people worldwide .

Feminism
In America and Western hemisphere was responsible for destroying the family unit. The catalyst for the movement were Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem, and Shulamith Firestone.

Usary -
Judaism (Old Testament/Torah): Forbade charging interest (“usury”) to fellow Israelites, but permitted it with foreigners (Exodus 22:25, Deuteronomy 23:19–20).

India is a shithole. Don't take them seriously.

 

[ShapurII]

And what? Do you think Iran would sit back and let them hit us without hitting back? They're just as afraid of getting destroyed as we are.....they're tiny, and they have no oil, at least we can rebuild with the oil money, they need to go out an whore money from other countries to rebuild....by that time all of the important people and businesses would've left for safety.

Israel has only 2 or 3 refineries. 5 water desalination plants.
It is possible to turn Israel into an inhabitable place without nukes.

Just hit their 5 water desalination plants, their 3 refineries, their handful of power plants, their fuel depots, their pharmaceutical companies, and it's game over for them.

However, the IR would never go for that.