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[Dalit]

lIndia’s ties with the U.S. may go through rough patches, but they’re never permanently broken. Look at Europe: most EU countries maintain strong trade and strategic relations with India. And even in the worst case, U.S. trade pressure can’t hurt India much — at most, it might shave off about 1% of GDP growth. For context, the last quarter still closed at 7

Dude, why did you change font colour? Are you copying and pasting stuff?

Whatever BS you wrote doesn't matter. Trump will set the record straight for the American people. We know why you made a U-turn and are now running to China.

 

[r3alist]

Not interested in going on a web search to pick up numbers for you. Laziness

Because China being next after India means diddly squat as India gets the vast majority and has done for decades

So before you get defensive on calling others silly you can't even muster up the numbers you think support your argument

Do you see anyone other than some Pakistanis like yourself or maga like Navarro thinking it was Modi's attitude problem? Or Trump's.
Trade is not a zero sum game. If Americans are not buying then someone else buys from them.

Take for example this whole Russian oil thing. What exactly happened? Russian war cut off Europes oil so they began sourcing it from India. Did Indian oil export jumped? No. We simply sold oil which we sold earlier to the East Asians. East Asians started buying from the Middle East. That's how international trade work.

get the American administration to agree, why are you arguing this here

 

[Dalit]

I don't think India has switched sides, I think as you said it is looking for cover from new daddy China against the other angry daddy USA

Remember to choose a side implies conviction.

I just don't know where this leaves Indian foreign policy if for two decades you have been saying China is the principal threat however you have run to them now for support

To think that the Chinese will warmly embrace India ....

Modi and India are fooling themselves by believing that hiding for cover behind China will make the US and Trump cower. This blackmail tactic won't work.

It is India that relies on the US by factor 100. Not the other way round.

 

[Nilgiri]

There is talk of the federal government having to repay back illegally collected tariffs.

Countries that have signed deals will have to go by them with whatever concession and tariff they have agreed to.

However, Trump seems to be a vindictive man. And he is currently not at all happy with Modi ji. So we may have to be ready for fireworks from other directions. Unless we can put some salve on his hurt ego.

I read it in more detail. The ones that other countries have (now) agreed to like say EU, Japan, SK etc have been carved out from this ruling applying more or less, since it's essentially been signed on paper now from another party.

Same goes with what was baked in from trump admin 1 (that biden admin also left alone) and the section 232 stuff regd Steel and Aluminum etc (strategic protection argument).....which has specificity for tariffs inside its legal code unlike this IEEPA stuff that Trump used willy nilly. i.e the reason these got shoved into IEEPA to begin with on April 3rd, as section 232 cannot handle them to begin with (some trump admin and lackeys are now arguing they can be reworked into there in worst case scenario for them if SCOTUS upholds this appeals court ruling....but really I doubt its the case or they would have just done that to begin with rather than risk all this mud on face later).

So what is targetted by the rulling as illegal now is the stuff that remains "up in the air" and totally open-ended w.r.t the bulk of the use of IEEPA...i.e the Trump attempted "leverage/coercion" that has not been signed into an agreement from external receiving party and are "ongoing" in some perpetuity.

SCOTUS ruling will be interesting to see whichever way it goes, along with dissent opinions. They make some compromises (especially concerning these refunds, those sound like a nightmare) in half-half way and rest will have to be taken up by legislature the way it was supposed to be done, not by executive fiat.

 

[r3alist]

Modi and India are fooling themselves by believing that hiding for cover behind China will make the US and Trump cower. This blackmail tactic won't work.

It is India that relies on the US by factor 100. Not the other way round.

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[Vikramaditya1]

Because China being next after India means diddly squat as India gets the vast majority and has done for decades

So before you get defensive on calling others silly you can't even muster up the numbers you think support your argument

Because a majority of H1B is renewals. Not new applications. Besides Chinese have a lower wait time for Green card 5+ years while Indians have it at 30+ years so what do Indians do, renew the H1B application.

As for Indians taking up the majority, any company can apply for let's say Pakistanis to get H1B. People cannot apply for H1B visa only companies can. So if Companies are applying for H1B for Indians what does that tell you?

get the American administration to agree, why are you arguing this here

You're the one trying to speak on behalf of them so I'm merely responding. Don't be so defensive kek

 

[r3alist]

Because a majority of H1B is renewals. Not new applications. Besides Chinese have a lower wait time for Green card 5+ years while Indians have it at 30+ years so what do Indians do, renew the H1B application.

As for Indians taking up the majority, any company can apply for let's say Pakistanis to get H1B. People cannot apply for H1B visa only companies can. So if Companies are applying for H1B for Indians what does that tell you?

So what are you even trying to discuss here?

I'm sure there are people from Nigeria Brazil Vietnam that get these visas

But we do not have Brazilian Nigerian and Vietnamese consultancies funneling people through

Anyway, I will exit this topic, when it first appeared apparently it was just a Pakistani thing, even now it's just a Pakistani AND maga thing

We can see where this is in 6 months time, maybe the Chinese need h1b's, or maybe HAL?

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Navarro what have you done? Do you know must of Indian Americans are also bahmin?

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Baniya may have money but at the end he need clean feet of bahmin to go to heaven.

 

[Rationale]

Bessent warns 'all options are on the table' for Russia sanctions

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says all options are on the table for Russia sanctions after Moscow's bombings of Ukraine despite recent talks.

www.foxbusiness.com

Looks like the Americans want to get it solved with the "great country" of India but are just frustrated that Modi is not picking up Trump's calls. Maybe Modi should finally get on the phone with him after having done a round of the European capitals, signing some deals and demonstrating to Trump who holds what cards.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

So what are you even trying to discuss here?

I'm sure there are people from Nigeria Brazil Vietnam that get these visas

But we do not have Brazilian Nigerian and Vietnamese consultancies funneling people through

Anyway, I will exit this topic, when it first appeared apparently it was just a Pakistani thing, even now it's just a Pakistani AND maga thing

We can see where this is in 6 months time, maybe the Chinese need h1b's, or maybe HAL?

You are going round and round. Consultancies get people because there is a demand for them. To have a demand you need to establish a relationship with them. Most of your ideas are just feelz or maga talking points. My jobs saaar. Why don't they apply for it? To hire H1Bs companies are required to publish ads in at least 3 papers so that Americans can apply and fill those. When you can't find people for those jobs they go outside to hire them.
Chinese don't need H1B, their GC wait time is only 5 years.

 

[r3alist]

maga talking points.

Yes, the people who elected the president. Suddenly a fringe irrelevance?

Why don't they apply for it?

Because they are saying they don't have the same opportunity



It's all that simple,

 

[r3alist]

Bessent warns 'all options are on the table' for Russia sanctions

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says all options are on the table for Russia sanctions after Moscow's bombings of Ukraine despite recent talks.

www.foxbusiness.com

Looks like the Americans want to get it solved with the "great country" of India but are just frustrated that Modi is not picking up Trump's calls. Maybe Modi should finally get on the phone with him after having done a round of the European capitals, signing some deals and demonstrating to Trump who holds what cards.

Wait until Navarro's next statement

Even this statement is saying these are performative actions

 

[r3alist]

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[Rationale]

Wait until Navarro's next statement

Navarro is a clown, but even he makes it a point to repeat that Modi is great leader and he loves India. In his latest statement he was crying about why India should be "in bed" with a democracy like the US and not with Russia and China, though he didn't comment on why Trump hosted Pakistan's de facto military dictator in the White House instead of supporting Pakistan's democratic leaders.

Even this statement is saying these are performative actions

He said the SCO meeting was performative. To a great extent , he is right. All of the theatre including Trump's tweets , Navarro's rants, Bessent's tough talk and Modi's embracing Xi and Putin is performative to some extent , but it also has some underlying basis to it. The bottom line is that making a deal and India staying on in Quad is in the interest of both parties. The only dispute is about the terms and the process based on which these agreements would be made. Both sides want to derive the maximum benefit. While this showmanship has been going on, both sides have left room for an off-ramp. Indian officials have not attacked Trump directly and the Americans have also caveated their statements by saying India and Modi are great and friends. This has left room for an off-ramp. The Americans have realised they overplayed their hand . " It is getting late " , " great countries will solve it" sound like feelers to get a deal done quickly. Hopefully the Americans have understood what India's red lines are and will less maximalist in their demands now. Nothing can be predicted for certain, but there is a high likelihood that an agreement would be made in the next couple of months after both leaders have satisfied their domestic constituencies that they fought hard and got the best possible deal for their countries.