JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[RajaBaja]

Effectively, a double tap.

You've made smiley faces on 4 of my posts today. If you have more expertise on the issue, share it with us. That's why this forum exists so we can all learn from each other.

Making useless smiley faces without an intelligent discussion puts one's IQ under question. This is a knowledge sharing forum. Thanks

 

[White Privilege]

It would be cool if the CM-400AKG could transmit the target co-ordinates it is targeting back to command, so that a follow up "area wide" Fatah strike could be done on those same co-ordinates, potentially targeting the launchers as well.

Effectively, a double tap.

That is the work of a 'slower' moving drone acting as a 'ferret'. Target location is tracked by the tracking data supplied by the drone as well as the position of the drone itself, at that point.It is difficult to determine the position of a fast missile inflight, as compared to a drone.

 

[aurelianpilled]

Do we have any information regarding the J-10CE/JF-17 strike package engaging the S-400 units at Bhuj AFS? I believe that we launched multiple CM-400AKGs at Bhuj AFS, as shown in a glimpse of the attack in a video posted by the PAF's official YouTube channel a few months ago.



Even if those CM-400AKGs missed the intended target, the radars, my sincere guess is that we successfully hit 'something' within the perimeters of the Bhuj AFS as claimed by India itself on the May 10th briefing. Plus, are there even any S-400 units deployed at Bhuj AFS?


@side-winder

 

[Yasser76]

It depends of what means shot down.
1 is fully destroyed (so shot down), it is the sole sure thing when you see one engine on ground. Some may have been damaged, but at what extent?

so 3 is like 4, 6, I even I've read 8 : without any evidence except pakistanese patriotism.

Rakesh, problem can be solved easily by your air force coming out with a definative figure.

Most reliable sources (by that I mean not run by Modi goons) now looking at 6-8

Like most combats, exact losse will take time, but why IAF so silent chum? Surely they have nothing to hide?

 

[Yasser76]

I'm quite sure there will be a return match.
It will be interesting.... This time you can be sure Rafale will be fitted with Meteor.

Modi 2019 "If we had Rafales result would have been different"

Rakesh (Bon Plan) on PDF 2025 "Next time we will have Rafale with correct weapons"

Always a "next time" when a guy loses a brawl....

 

[hussain0216]

Modi 2019 "If we had Rafales result would have been different"

Rakesh (Bon Plan) on PDF 2025 "Next time we will have Rafale with correct weapons"

Always a "next time" when a guy loses a brawl....

If his aunty had balls, she'd be his uncle

Some of the Indian cope is ridiculous, and borderline madness

 

[Yasser76]

If his aunty had balls, she'd be his uncle

Some of the Indian cope is ridiculous, and borderline madness

In "the future" they will have masses of Tejas, "in the future" they will beat PAF.

Never live in the present, which explains their prediciment

 

[falcon34]

Rafale can detect a JF-17 at a greater range than the contrary (because west T/R modules are better, and because JF-17 AESA is air cooled : average solution).
Meteor kinetic and range is better than PL-10, SPL-12 and even PL-15 (if ever PL-15 is integrated on JF-17). So no match.

It is not because Rafale don't use Meteor day one that it is not potent, and I've already explained in long and large why.
Day 3 & 4 PAF simply diseapear of the sky.

Gangu drop the act.

 

[Aziqbal]

honestly every time anyone sees the JF17 Block 3 + PL-15 should know one thing

dont mess with them even USAF knows it

even for the wider fleet JF17 is now solidified in the air to air combat role

 

[falcon34]

Do we have any information regarding the J-10CE/JF-17 strike package engaging the S-400 units at Bhuj AFS? I believe that we launched multiple CM-400AKGs at Bhuj AFS, as shown in a glimpse of the attack in a video posted by the PAF's official YouTube channel a few months ago.

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Even if those CM-400AKGs missed the intended target, the radars, my sincere guess is that we successfully hit 'something' within the perimeters of the Bhuj AFS as claimed by India itself on the May 10th briefing. Plus, are there even any S-400 units deployed at Bhuj AFS?

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@side-winder

@side-winder @Panzerkiel Both the S400 were taken out right?.
Indians didn't even talked about the bhuj, no PM visit or Air chief visit, the didn't put out stamped videos like that of Naliya, nor did they tried paraded out the S400 launchers
It's my speculation I think PAF did more at Bhuj other than just taking S400 radars.

 

[Panzerkiel]

@side-winder @Panzerkiel Both the S400 were taken out right?.
Indians didn't even talked about the bhuj, no PM visit or Air chief visit, the didn't put out stamped videos like that of Naliya, nor did they tried paraded out the S400 launchers
It's my speculation I think PAF did more at Bhuj other than just taking S400 radars.

Yes .

And overall, both the Army and PAF did MUCH MORE than is being reported.

 

[kimjongun]

Yes .

And overall, both the Army and PAF did MUCH MORE than is being reported.

Bhai zra wo report to krna-

 

[falcon34]

Yes .

And overall, both the Army and PAF did MUCH MORE than is being reported.

Any chance, will they be claimed or the armed forces have moved on?.

 

[rafale]

The CM-400's didn't hit the S-400 by magic, it knew it's coordinates and the PAF's command knew it's coordinates also. Outside of the 4 minute CGI floating around, the entire process is super complicated. It includes super computing like equipment connected with the AWACS, through datalink to the missile, the command centers and at least one Satellite.

The follow on Fatah strike wasn't needed because once the AD umbrella was broken, India went for ceasefire. Had that not been the case, more CM-AKG's would've been fired for long term damage.

A senior officer in the USAF once said "once you are airborne, everything becomes longitude and latitude coordinates"! Such a powerful statement.

India is a big longitude and latitude problem.

 

[PakShaheen_79]

Found an unauthorized version of Londo’s video. Still good to see it for old times sake.

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Pure Nostalgia. Thanks for sharing. One must understand that it was years before DCS was a thing. Londo was a legend on old forum. V passionate soul about PAF.