Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[side-winder]

That speaks volumes about how poor and outdated PAF ISR capability is as S400 moved out well before PAF could hit it.

That is completely made up.
He never said Pakistan had superior ISR and EW capabilities

Just one fine example of "indian bakhts" vs "indian Babus". And i rest my case here without responding to your other non-sense.

"Pakistani DGMO mentioning that we know your such and such important sort of vector is primed and it is ready for action- i would request you to perhaps you know pull it back - so he was getting live inputs from China and this is where i think we need to move fast and take appropriate measures. I then talk about EW and need for robust air defence systems".

 

[Gregor Clegane]

"Pakistani DGMO mentioning that we know your such and such important sort of vector is primed and it is ready for action- would request you to perhaps you know pull it back - so he getting live inputs from China and this is where i think we need to move fast and take appropriate measures. I then talk about EW and need for robust air defence systems".

So thank for admitting he never said Pakistan has superior EW and ISR systems.

 

[Liquidator]

So thank for admitting he never said Pakistan has superior EW and ISR systems.

Results speak for themselves. Plus, we intercepted and releases audio of your screams. Now tell me who has a superior EW system?

The one who makes you scream and then listens to it? Or the one who stands down for 2 days during a hot war.

7-0

Never forget.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

@Gregor Clegane


how old are you?!!!

you are acting like a man child

 

[kimjongun]

So thank for admitting he never said Pakistan has superior EW and ISR systems.

"There is a lot to be done as far as this domain is concerned" you deaf or sum...No military accepts its enemies strong hold directly in clear words while having the bigger pockets....

 

[Trailer23]

@Gregor Clegane


how old are you?!!!

you are acting like a man child

Is that like Trick Question ?

 

[Gregor Clegane]

Results speak for themselves. Plus, we intercepted and releases audio of your screams. Now tell me who has a superior EW system?

The one who makes you scream and then listens to it? Or the one who stands down for 2 days during a hot war.

7-0

Never forget.

Even Pakistan has admited that it does not have the capability intercept encrypted Indian comms by telling Alan warnes that those audios released were apparently of pilots who mistakenly spoke in open channel (that itself puts a huge doubt on authenticity of those audios).

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Is that like Trick Question ?

yes

trick, no answers, means he is a m0&0n

if answers, he is a retard!

 

[Gregor Clegane]

"There is a lot to be done as far as this domain is concerned" you deaf or sum...No military accepts its enemies strong hold directly in clear words while having the bigger pockets....

So
?
Even USAF said they have lot to do in stealth domain Even though they are world leaders of it.

 

[Hayabusa]

The impression is as if 10th May was a total Indian domination and Indian side walked scot-free.

Would be very convincing - If it weren't the Indian Babus themselves admitting certain things.

1. We all know from the OSINT videos about the smoke plumes rising from Indian bases / other military installations - that alot of projectiles did go through Indian AD network - the only thing remained doubtful was the accuracy of strikes.

2. Everyone had doubts about the accuracy including most of pakistanis given the absence of SAT imageries - Well, once again, who other than IAF chief himself - "2-4 weapon unkay usi jaga giray jahan hmara S400 pehly laga hua tha" - what's interesting is that PAF didn't launch a barrage of CM400s on S400 rather same "2-4 weapon" on S400 positions. All hitting exactly where PAF wanted to. Well - the example alone speaks of precision and inability of Indian AD to intercept PAF air launched munitions - doesn't it? Now PAF did launch alot more munitions than just "2-4 targetting at S400".

3. Now add to that - initial self admissions about damage from indian side - gallantry awards to medical personnel - few casualties of IAF personnel (ref IAF chief visiting families)

4. That story of S400 launchers catching fire during Pakistan Strikes is yet another absurdity which doesn't add up - it suggests S400 was active during Pakistani Strikes initially and got temporarily unavailable. If it was active initially - there was no way JF-17s had invalid strike co-ordinates - you exactly know the location when S400s start spitting up missiles. Reference Indian VCOAS's admission about Pakistan having live ISR visibility of "Indian prime ready-to-strike vectors". So how come PAF hit exact locations of S400 where the system had already moved from and not where it was re-deployed to.

5. Also how is this argument about "they hit locations where we had already re-located from" different from "PAF had already evacuated those hangars"? It's basically the same thing being said here in both cases. No?

The bottom line - it's not as if 10th was all about PAF bases getting banged while Indian side had nothing to worry about while enjoying total domination - the ceasefire happened because both sides came to realize the serious gaps and weaknesses in their respective areas of concern - and both knew what was coming up with next step of escalation ladder. Trump's phone calls only worked as a catalyst.

Indians are ignorant when it comes to our ground response. They just want to live in their Bollywood fantasies where they completely dominate Pakistan. This is why they keep harping on the 11 bases destroyed, when in reality the bases were still online and operational. Their delusions were finally shattered when Pakistan displayed their ability to target with precision at their S-400. Not forgetting the tarp covering their C&C.

 

[flyingorca]

No videos emerged of any smokes plumes from Indian bases.
Only videos of smoke plumes were from Damtal forests which is 3 km away from pathankot airbase and another was of smoke plumes from Nagrota forests, also 2 km away from Corps HQ.
Remaining were plumes from civilian areas of Rajoruri, Jammu and Poonch and even Srinagar dal lake.

Almost every single indian airbase has wooded area so dont know what the fk you are talking about.
Also, EVEN if pakistani rockets or missiles reached near indian it means your S400 daddy failed to intercept and next time the aim will be dead center in modi's g×××

 

[Abid123]

I really feel sorry for you guys.
You guys build up a whole narrative about complete indian domination out of imagination and suddenly out of nowhere your babus come up for themselves and bust the entire bubble.

1. Bakhts remained in denial about aircrafts despite clear evidence of wreckages until CDS shb himself had to come and admit the losses.

2. Bakhts remained in denial about super duper IAF's incompetency to counter tiny PAF in air instead blaming the political restraints until the Chief sahb himself had to say there were no political restraints.

3. Bakhts remained in denial about damages to their bases until Ms. Vyomika had to come and state on record about "damage to personnel and equipment".

4. Bakhts twisted the story again saying "limited damage" means broken glasses and windows only - until the IAF chief was seen visiting families of IAF personnel who lost their lives.

5. Bakhts remained in denial about accuracy of PAF strikes and one fine day their air chief comes up and says "2-4 weapon unkay usi jaga giray jahan S400 pehlay laga hua tha".

6. Bakhts remained in delusion about S400 going scratchless and shooting everything left and right - and one fine day they get a news about a guy getting commendation award for 'repairing S400 launchers on fire for technical glitches'.

7. Bakhts remained in delusions about complete domination over Pakistanis in all domains after 7th - and suddenly the VCOAS comes up outlining lessons from sindoor giving special mention to some indigenous AD systems that didn't perform well and how Pakistan had superior ISR and EW capabilities where indian side seriously needs to work on.

Don't you guys feel any embarrassment for having got your fantasies busted by your own officials so many times? - while there has been hardly any talk from Pakistani military after the conflict had ended - your officials on the other hand drop a new admission bomb on you guys every other day

As I have said previously, they are the most delusional people in the world.

 

[flyingorca]

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Pakistan would have NEVER conducted retaliation Operation Bunyan al-Marsous if pakistan was defeated. And why would India accept Pakistan's request for cease fire if India had upper hand? Aren't still their terrorists camps and launch pad that keeps messing up sindoor in modi g forhead?

 

[Trailer23]

They worship the weapons too?

If we got a nickel everytime the Indians did something stupid..., we'd be able to pay off our IMF loans.

 

[kimjongun]

So
?
Even USAF said they have lot to do in stealth domain Even though they are world leaders of it.

your army was surprised by the intel we had and were getting live input of it....so that means that you underestimated our co operation with china and our capability to get things done...youre just constantly rage baiting...also watch the report by new york times on indian bases being attacked...they showed imageryy but the damage was very minimal....you guys cant even provide credible proof for the aircraft you magically shot down including an awacs and and elint aircraft(made the claim to relive the butt hurt pain recived via the fa20s in 2019)....when we say the the hangers were emptied before strikes you think its BS but when you say s400 moved places its true lmao...also you claimed that s400 intercepted the cm400 akg... howcome they struck the previous location then ?