Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[Desprado123]

Diplomatic talks between government of Pakistan and Taliban broke down in Moscow. Taliban FM headed to India for support while PA decided to teach them a lesson that Pakistan will not accept TTP hideouts and safe heavens, and Indian influence in Afghanistan.

However, the question remains. Is this a best time to escalate things with Afghanistan keeping in mind the political and internal security situation in KP and the looming war in east?

Yes becuase Pak is the saviour of Arab world or it wants to be and Taliban only understand language of power and brutalitiy.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Yes. Too heavy for drone. Is this Turkey or Nescom build?

Is it what we are seeing? , Pakistan may have somehow acquired a TOS-2 or TOS-1 equivalent ( or the original TOS-1 from Saudi Arabia). Those hits appear to be from heavy 220 mm mini-thermobaric type mortar shells, but are being used in precision hits instead ,of a blanket mass attack . Even one shell has horrific consequences. A TOS 1 or TOS 2 is an ideal weapon for short range ( 6-10 km ) cross-border fighting against non-state actors or against an adversary trying to initiate a border incursion. There would be a zero chance of any survivors in those border posts targeted .
@arjunk @Panzerkiel

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

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Is this 3rd or 4th time? They need to beg publicly

 

[Vapnope]

Never seen Pashtun Journalist or Pashtun againat Afghan but today dam they are demanding to freeze trade, use of Fatah and collapse of Taliban Government.

Thats not true entirely. Pushtuns have proven themselves to be hardcore patriots time and again. There shouldn't be a confusion here. KpK and former Fata stays with Pakistan because Pushtuns side with Pakistan and continue to do so. We cannot paint a huge population by the examples of some paid actors.

 

[Signalian]

Onboard Turks and Arabs to arm Syria and sale Fatah’s to Egypt.
There was already thousands of Pakistanis in Syria and Lebanon fighting for Iran maybe even tens of thousands. Pakistan should replicate this and set up militias covertly in Syria and Lebanon.
Israelis only understand the language of force not talks or pacifism. When Syria starts responding to every air strike with rockets/missiles and starts pushing the israeli Druze proxy out, they’ll have to focus all their efforts there.

Hold your horses.

Human resources and foreign legions are not exactly required. Pakistan is deploying exactly what is required for now.

 

[Saifullah]

Non conventional weapons and tactics can be used in conventional warfare so arming civilians and sending them as militias is not feasible.

Why can’t militias help prop up the numbers on the border with India? Even if they don’t stand much of a chance when war starts they’ll at least delay the Indian attack if it happens. Even Ukraine and Russia showed numbers are still as important as tech. Even Indians are arming and raising civilian militias to help them in an invasion. If Pakistan Afghanistan war escalates how will Pakistan make up for troops moving west ward?
At least partial mobilization in Sindh should be done near the border.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Your points have a lot of weight. I look at this from this point of view. Just imagine if India, A-Stan, Iran and Israel decide to targer Pakistan together and simultenously.

Now it is just NOT possible for Pakistan to handle all these MULTIPLE FRONTS USING CONVENTIONAL MEANS - IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE. The only way for Pakistan to survive would be to nuke A-stan, Iran so that these 4-fronts only become two fronts. Now Israel can only use Airforce - Pakistan can easily counter it. Pakistan can then use all of its conventional and non-convention means to take care of India !!

IN A SCENARIO AS ABOVE - USE OF NUKES BECOME IMPORTANT FOR THE SURVIVAL OF PAKISTAN. People do not realize that In fact Pakistan is PRESENTLY FACING ALMOST THIS EXACT SCENARIO minus Iran who have learnt the hard way that Indians are NOT their friends!!

At this point Nukes are unnecessary. Our conventional and tactical superiority over Afghanistan is quite evident

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

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Do it PAF

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

It hadn’t stopped in 2015,it continued after until now, you should put more efforts into your information incase if you didn’t recently.
Anyway let’s see what will be the outcome but it piss me off that our policies bring destruction every single year without any progress!

show me 10 attacks since 2015 where we have lost 20 soldiers on a single day!

lets find out!

who is truthful!

 

[Mutakalim]

What if Israelis are already there and operating inside Baluchistan also through Afghanistan ?

If the gloves are off then take them out. Plausible deniability exist on both sides.

 

[313Ghazi]

Are you a Zionist? Only Zionist kill babies in cities. Pakistan needs to destroy the bases and eliminate the actual Taliban threats

The Taliban do too - don't forget that. Now there is no military value in targeting civilians, however we need to attack thier military and strategic targets wherever they are with extreme prejudice. All Afghans hate Pakistan. They don't accept the Durand Line - only through a display of savage power will they respect it.

Sorry Bhai you live in US and have no right to comment since you will never come back or live / serve here.

Bye

Musharraf lived abroad too and Bajwa lives abroad now. Two of the leading desi experts responsible state of Pakistan. Please lets leave the bongiya for another thread.

I live in Pakistan. Do I have the right to uphold moral values and propagate these values? Do I have the right to question statements like "Kill them All"? Do I have the right to question your statements and still call myself a patriot? Are you the sole and absolute judge of our patriotism and Pakistaniat?

No, if you live in Pakistan and don't agree with him you're anti state.

Good idea or not? What do people think?

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Terrible idea.

1. It will cost a lot of money and lives to take that territory.

2. The locals will be hostile leading to us facing the same guerilla warfare the British, Soviets and Americans faced.

3. The pukhtun in Afghanistan are just as anti Pakistan as other ethnicities in Afghanistan - maybe more so.

The Afghans have never won a conventional war and never lost a guerilla war. They don't value human life, they live for war. We need to keep them in front of us - not behind us - thays where they stab you from.

 

[Bilal]

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Is this 3rd or 4th time? They need to beg publicly

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So strikes should continue.

 

[Shakehands]

show me 10 attacks since 2015 where we have lost 20 soldiers on a single day!

lets find out!

who is truthful!

• Lahore Park bombing: On March 27, a suicide bombing at Gulshan-e-Iqbal Park killed at least 74 people, targeting Christians celebrating Easter.
• Quetta hospital bombing: On August 8, a bomb killed at least 70 people at a hospital where lawyers had gathered to mourn the assassination of a colleague.
• Quetta police college attack: On October 24, militants stormed a police training center, killing at least 60 people.

2017

• Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine bombing: On February 16, an ISIS-K suicide bomber killed at least 88 people at a Sufi shrine in Sindh province.
• Parachinar bombings: A series of attacks in the heavily Shia-populated region killed dozens throughout the year, with one double bombing on June 23 killing 72.
• Lahore bombing: On July 24, a TTP suicide bomber killed at least 26 people, including nine police officers, in downtown Lahore.

2018

• Mastung bombing: On July 13, a suicide bombing at a political rally in Balochistan killed at least 131 people.
• Karachi Chinese consulate attack: On November 23, BLA militants attacked the Chinese consulate, killing several people.

2019

• Gwadar hotel attack: On May 11, BLA militants attacked the Pearl Continental Hotel, killing five people, including a Pakistani Navy officer.
• Makran coastal highway massacre: On April 18, gunmen identified and executed 14 passengers on a bus, including Pakistan Navy and Coast Guard personnel.

2020

• Pakistan Stock Exchange attack: On June 29, BLA militants attacked the Pakistan Stock Exchange in Karachi, leading to a shootout that killed eight people, including the four attackers.
• Peshawar religious school bombing: On October 27, a bomb killed at least eight people at a madrassa.

2021

• Quetta hotel bombing: On April 21, a TTP vehicle-borne improvised explosive device (VBIED) killed five people in the parking lot of the Serena hotel.
• Dasu dam bus attack: On July 14, an explosion on a bus killed 13 people, including nine Chinese workers, at a dam construction site in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
• Karachi grenade attack: On August 14, a grenade attack in Karachi injured a dozen people.

2022

• Peshawar mosque attack: On March 4, an ISIS-K suicide attack on a Shia mosque killed more than 60 people and injured over 100.
• Karachi University attack: On April 26, a BLA suicide bomber killed four employees of a Chinese language institute, including three Chinese nationals.
• Lakki Marwat attack: On November 16, TTP militants killed six police officers in a convoy ambush.

2023

• Peshawar mosque bombing: On January 30, a TTP-affiliated suicide bombing killed 95 people at a mosque inside a police compound.
• Khar bombing: On July 30, an ISIS-K suicide bombing at a political rally in Bajaur killed at least 54 people.
• Daraban military post attack: On December 12, an attack killed 23 Pakistani soldiers and wounded at least 30.

2024

• Gwadar port attack: On March 20, BLA militants attacked the Gwadar Port Authority Complex, killing eight militants and two soldiers.
• Shangla bus attack: On March 26, a suicide bomber killed five Chinese nationals in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
• Kurram convoy attack: On November 21, gunmen ambushed a convoy of vehicles transporting Shia Muslims in Kurram District, killing at least 54 people.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

• Lahore Park bombing: On March 27, a suicide bombing at Gulshan-e-Iqbal Park killed at least 74 people, targeting Christians celebrating Easter.
• Quetta hospital bombing: On August 8, a bomb killed at least 70 people at a hospital where lawyers had gathered to mourn the assassination of a colleague.
• Quetta police college attack: On October 24, militants stormed a police training center, killing at least 60 people.

2017

• Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine bombing: On February 16, an ISIS-K suicide bomber killed at least 88 people at a Sufi shrine in Sindh province.
• Parachinar bombings: A series of attacks in the heavily Shia-populated region killed dozens throughout the year, with one double bombing on June 23 killing 72.
• Lahore bombing: On July 24, a TTP suicide bomber killed at least 26 people, including nine police officers, in downtown Lahore.

2018

• Mastung bombing: On July 13, a suicide bombing at a political rally in Balochistan killed at least 131 people.
• Karachi Chinese consulate attack: On November 23, BLA militants attacked the Chinese consulate, killing several people.

2019

• Gwadar hotel attack: On May 11, BLA militants attacked the Pearl Continental Hotel, killing five people, including a Pakistani Navy officer.
• Makran coastal highway massacre: On April 18, gunmen identified and executed 14 passengers on a bus, including Pakistan Navy and Coast Guard personnel.

2020

• Pakistan Stock Exchange attack: On June 29, BLA militants attacked the Pakistan Stock Exchange in Karachi, leading to a shootout that killed eight people, including the four attackers.
• Peshawar religious school bombing: On October 27, a bomb killed at least eight people at a madrassa.

2021

• Quetta hotel bombing: On April 21, a TTP vehicle-borne improvised explosive device (VBIED) killed five people in the parking lot of the Serena hotel.
• Dasu dam bus attack: On July 14, an explosion on a bus killed 13 people, including nine Chinese workers, at a dam construction site in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
• Karachi grenade attack: On August 14, a grenade attack in Karachi injured a dozen people.

2022

• Peshawar mosque attack: On March 4, an ISIS-K suicide attack on a Shia mosque killed more than 60 people and injured over 100.
• Karachi University attack: On April 26, a BLA suicide bomber killed four employees of a Chinese language institute, including three Chinese nationals.
• Lakki Marwat attack: On November 16, TTP militants killed six police officers in a convoy ambush.

2023

• Peshawar mosque bombing: On January 30, a TTP-affiliated suicide bombing killed 95 people at a mosque inside a police compound.
• Khar bombing: On July 30, an ISIS-K suicide bombing at a political rally in Bajaur killed at least 54 people.
• Daraban military post attack: On December 12, an attack killed 23 Pakistani soldiers and wounded at least 30.

2024

• Gwadar port attack: On March 20, BLA militants attacked the Gwadar Port Authority Complex, killing eight militants and two soldiers.
• Shangla bus attack: On March 26, a suicide bomber killed five Chinese nationals in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
• Kurram convoy attack: On November 21, gunmen ambushed a convoy of vehicles transporting Shia Muslims in Kurram District, killing at least 54 people.

20 soldiers, attacked and killed by Afghan forces?!!!

are you out of your mind or something?!!

 

[313Ghazi]

Im glad we are giving them hell. Long may it continue. Hopefully they keep lining up at the border giving us an opportunity to pick them off.

We should be careful not to push to deep into thier territory - it could work to thier advantage.