23 travellers offloaded, shot dead in Balochistan’s Musakhail after identity check:

[Magadh]

Intrigued, but commendable that your line of thoughts are consistent whether its Kashmir or Balochis - the will of people to prevail.

But Sarmad Bhai, secessionist ideas are very enticing and easy to ripe and grow. More you accept, more will come.

I don’t believe Sindhis will push for secession from Pakistan. While some Sindhis may advocate for an independent Sindhudesh, there hasn’t been any significant uprising in Sindh. However, the situation is entirely different for the Baloch and Pashtuns. They are distinct peoples who did not even vote for the creation of Pakistan in 1947. The India-Pakistan or Hindu-Muslim conflict is not their concern. Moreover, an independent Balochistan could benefit the region, much like independent Bangladesh has. An independent Balochistan could maintain favorable relations with India, similar to how Iran and Afghanistan do.

Lastly, it’s important not to compare India’s secular democracy with Pakistan, which was founded as an Islamic state. As an Islamic state, Pakistan seeks to impose its version of Islam on the Baloch, just as it tried with East Bengal. The Baloch will never accept this, and the bloodshed is likely to continue as long as Balochistan remains a part of Pakistan.

 

[hussain0216]

I don’t believe Sindhis will push for secession from Pakistan. While some Sindhis may advocate for an independent Sindhudesh, there hasn’t been any significant uprising in Sindh. However, the situation is entirely different for the Baloch and Pashtuns. They are distinct peoples who did not even vote for the creation of Pakistan in 1947. The India-Pakistan or Hindu-Muslim conflict is not their concern. Moreover, an independent Balochistan could benefit the region, much like independent Bangladesh has. An independent Balochistan could maintain favorable relations with India, similar to how Iran and Afghanistan do.

Lastly, it’s important not to compare India’s secular democracy with Pakistan, which was founded as an Islamic state. As an Islamic state, Pakistan seeks to impose its version of Islam on the Baloch, just as it tried with East Bengal. The Baloch will never accept this, and the bloodshed is likely to continue as long as Balochistan remains a part of Pakistan.

Then the bloodshed will continue, but Pakistan I'm will defend it's sovereign territory against all enemies
. Bangladesh was a over a thousand miles away, their is no comparisons with any territory here and it is incumbent upon Pakistan to plan and defeat its enemies

India is a hindutva extremist communal shit hole, just as Jinnah predicted

 

[Magadh]

Then the bloodshed will continue, but Pakistan I'm will defend it's sovereign territory against all enemies
. Bangladesh was a over a thousand miles away, their is no comparisons with any territory here and it is incumbent upon Pakistan to plan and defeat its enemies

India is a hindutva extremist communal shit hole, just as Jinnah predicted

An independent Balochistan could maintain positive relations with Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, China, and India, while also allowing its people to prosper alongside neighboring countries. In the long term, this would benefit the entire region. The liberation of Bangladesh has already proven beneficial for India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and the broader region, and the same could happen with Balochistan.

 

[hussain0216]

An independent Balochistan could maintain positive relations with Pakistan, China, and India, while also allowing its people to prosper alongside neighboring countries like Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, China, and India. In the long term, this would benefit the entire region. The liberation of Bangladesh has already proven beneficial for India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and the broader region, and the same could happen with Balochistan.

Yeah and a independent and free Kashmir and completion of partition of India so Indian Muslims could have their independent states would be great too

However Pakistan isn't going to allow ote enemies to target it's sovereign territory without response, Afghanistan has been defeated multiple times now

The destruction of the Afghan Republic was a major victory,
USA, NATO, India getting thrown out was a culmination of a long term strategy

Pakistan is dealing with the fallout, but absolutely no way will Pakistan allow its sovereign territory to be attacked or stolen without response

People have the choice to obey the law or suffer the consequences

 

[SteppeWolff]

I don’t believe Sindhis will push for secession from Pakistan. While some Sindhis may advocate for an independent Sindhudesh, there hasn’t been any significant uprising in Sindh. However, the situation is entirely different for the Baloch and Pashtuns. They are distinct peoples who did not even vote for the creation of Pakistan in 1947. The India-Pakistan or Hindu-Muslim conflict is not their concern. Moreover, an independent Balochistan could benefit the region, much like independent Bangladesh has. An independent Balochistan could maintain favorable relations with India, similar to how Iran and Afghanistan do.

Lastly, it’s important not to compare India’s secular democracy with Pakistan, which was founded as an Islamic state. As an Islamic state, Pakistan seeks to impose its version of Islam on the Baloch, just as it tried with East Bengal. The Baloch will never accept this, and the bloodshed is likely to continue as long as Balochistan remains a part of Pakistan.

Keep dreaming scum.

 

[hussain0216]

Your internal civil war and Baluchistan and sindi looking to form.its own country is nothing to do with India
That is a internal war which I predict will.get worse for Pakistan as it faces economic demise..

. Yeah India is exactly what Jinnah predicted it would be

Which is a horrendously communal disaster of a state with mass toxic hatred everywhere

What you are doing is saying, "oh look, this communal cesspool has some basic economic development because it's overpopulated"
Oh well guess we don't have to care about the rape epidemic or mass communal hatred we have in India, duhhhhhh


Pakistan itself has immense economic potential, it will eventually begin to economically develop a d develop quickly, we are a majority Muslim state and Pakistan will continue

India NEEDS PARTITION to safeguard hundreds of millions of minorities who are no longer represented within a hindutva extremist state

 

[Parmanu]

. Yeah India is exactly what Jinnah predicted it would be

Which is a horrendously communal disaster of a state with mass toxic hatred everywhere

What you are doing is saying, "oh look, this communal cesspool has some basic economic development because it's overpopulated"
Oh well guess we don't have to care about the rape epidemic or mass communal hatred we have in India, duhhhhhh


Pakistan itself has immense economic potential, it will eventually begin to economically develop a d develop quickly, we are a majority Muslim state and Pakistan will continue

India NEEDS PARTITION to safeguard hundreds of millions of minorities who are no longer represented within a hindutva extremist state

In a thread of hatred, our patriot pakistani friend shows us what hatred actually is.

the day someone in pakistan figures out that you ARE the problem, will be a good start to curb hatred.

This guy goes around preaching hate and then will write, oh the baloch hate us, oh the pashtuns hate us. while himself spewing garbage after garbage post. the reason these guys are tolerated is why hatred is given a wide berth in social and political pakistan.

 

[hussain0216]

In a thread of hatred, our patriot pakistani friend shows us what hatred actually is.

the day someone in pakistan figures out that you ARE the problem, will be a good start to curb hatred.

This guy goes around preaching hate and then will write, oh the baloch hate us, oh the pashtuns hate us. while himself spewing garbage after garbage post. the reason these guys are tolerated is why hatred is given a wide berth in social and political pakistan.

India has a Indian Muslims population of 200-250 million, BUT has 4, that's FOUR representatives from their community In the Indian parliament

Nothing explains the need for partition more then that

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

An independent Balochistan could maintain positive relations with Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, China, and India, while also allowing its people to prosper alongside neighboring countries. In the long term, this would benefit the entire region. The liberation of Bangladesh has already proven beneficial for India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and the broader region, and the same could happen with Balochistan.

Ok, but again baloch are a minority even in Balochistan and more live in Punjab and Sindh than Balochistan itself.

What happens to the pashtuns and settlers who make up over 60% of Balochistan and I'm not even counting the pro Pak Baloch.

And what happens to the Baloch of Sindh and Punjab?

 

[hussain0216]

still 23 indian muslims are not being killed by hindus in hindu India.

Here, in Islamic republic of Pakistan, Pakistani Muslims are killed by other Pakistani Muslim because of HATE. The reasoning of normalizing hate starts with hatred filled ideas in people's head.

you won't understand it. you keep shilling for another partition of India. Lage Raho!

Yes they are,, India has regular communal riots and lynchings, the police is useless or complicit

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

As the saying goes, denial isn’t just a river in Egypt. The Baloch militants are targeting Punjabis based on their ethnicity, yet you refuse to recognize this as an ethnic conflict? While there are indeed social and political dimensions, the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Punjabis in Balochistan clearly constitute an ethnic conflict.

You should Google, pashtuns and Sindhis have also been targeted in the past.

Sure Punjab is seen as an enemy but that is not just because of ethnicity but also because Punjabi elite, bureaucracy and military that are indeed Punjabi heavy.

You blame sardars etc yet you forget that the 'sardars' in power are installed by the govt.

Which election has been held in Balochistan which has been free if fair?

Basically pro govt sardars are installed and given a slice of the pie and the province remains neglected.

Gujranwala has more seats in the NA than Balochistan and so nobody gives a crap about the province.. it's essentially a colonial project.

 

[hussain0216]

Population of balochistan is 14.89 million out of 240 million Pakistani

And that 14.89 includes everyone in Balochistan, from Sindhi to Baloch to pashtun

 

[Magadh]

Then the bloodshed will continue, but Pakistan I'm will defend it's sovereign territory against all enemies
. Bangladesh was a over a thousand miles away, their is no comparisons with any territory here and it is incumbent upon Pakistan to plan and defeat its enemies

India is a hindutva extremist communal shit hole, just as Jinnah predicted

still 23 indian muslims are not being killed by hindus in hindu India.

Here, in Islamic republic of Pakistan, Pakistani Muslims are killed by other Pakistani Muslim because of HATE. The reasoning of normalizing hate starts with hatred filled ideas in people's head.

you won't understand it. you keep shilling for another partition of India. Lage Raho!

The hatred for Baloch, Bengali, or Sindhi culture, language, and traditions often stems from a deep-seated animosity towards Hinduism, as these cultures are perceived to be Hindu. In truth, these cultures are Hindu.

 

[hussain0216]

The hatred for Baloch, Bengali, or Sindhi culture, language, and traditions often stems from a deep-seated animosity towards Hinduism, as these cultures are perceived to be Hindu. In truth, these cultures are Hindu.

Your right their is a deep seated hatred of Hinduism or hindutva especially, but to say Pakistani view Bengali, Sindhi or Baloch as Hindu is comically ridiculous

 

[Magadh]

Your right their is a deep seated hatred of Hinduism or hindutva especially, but to say Pakistani view Bengali, Sindhi or Baloch as Hindu is comically ridiculous

Baloch, Sindhi, Kashmiri, and Bengali cultures have deep roots in Hindu traditions, which contributes to the hatred Punjabi Muslims feel toward these ethnic groups. Punjabi Muslims adopted Urdu over Punjabi because Punjabi is seen as a language associated with Hinduism.