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[Faceless]

I'm not seeing an EOTS, is that just missing from the mockup? or have the Indians decided to skip that feature.

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AMCA Mk 1 will for sure have EOTS, infact I'll do you one better : even Ghatak UCAV will have EOTS

EOTS housing

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possible AMCA EOTS housing from a company called Optics and Allied Engineering Pvt. Ltd. (according to Alpha Defence these guys were most probably T2 in the DcPP tender)



EOTS Sensors

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Since its a restricted document I can't share anything more than whats already public but the Document is named "Development of Airborne Gimbal Assembly for Stabilized EO/IR Payload" and it has a lot of juicy details including what detection ranges they are aiming to achieve

@Oscar @Indos @Deino @Joe Shearer @hyperman @Nilgiri @kaku @MirageBlue

 

[Mohid Afzal]

Unlike Turkish Kaan Program, KFX/IFX program completed CDR design first in late 2019 before going to make the prototype starting in 2020

The development procedures follow best practice in plane development

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SEOUL, Oct. 7 (Yonhap) -- Indonesia is in arrears on its payment obligations for a joint project with South Korea to develop a next-generation fighter jet, citing financial problems, data by the arms procurement agency showed Monday.

Indonesia is a partner for South Korea's so-called KF-X project to develop a homegrown fighter aircraft in an effort to procure combat aircraft for its own air force and boost its aerospace industry. The country agreed to shoulder 20 percent of the development cost of the 8.8 trillion-won (US$7.36 billion) project.

But the Southeast Asian country failed to pay 301 billion won it was supposed to pay as of end-September, according to the data by the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA). So far, it has paid 272.2 billion won.

"Following the Indonesian president's request in 2018 for talks on the payment, South Korea set up a pan-government consultative body and has been holding working-level discussions with Jakarta," DAPA said, noting that the two sides have met four times so far this year.

"Despite such a delay in payment, the Indonesian side has continued to send its researchers to South Korea to take part in the development process," Rep. Kim Joong-ro of the minor opposition Bareunmirae Party said during a parliamentary audit into the administration, voicing concern about technology leaks.

As of July, 114 Indonesian engineers were sent to South Korea to work with Korea Aerospace Industries Co. (KAI), the country's sole aircraft manufacturer, to design and make a prototype of the fighter, according to a DAPA official.

Last month, DAPA confirmed that the design for the combat jet met all military requirements, allowing the project to go on to the next phase of constructing a prototype.

The prototype will be ready in the first half of 2021, and the agency is eyeing 2026 for the completion of development, which began in 2016, according to DAPA.

Indonesia delays payment for S. Korea's fighter development project | Yonhap News Agency

SEOUL, Oct. 7 (Yonhap) -- Indonesia is in arrears on its payment obligations for a joint p...

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what is CDR design?

 

[Ak01]

Hurted your ego? I know your intentions why you asked it, even though you knew very well what was the answer from that graph.

Again, not going to answer to you. You can award any number of infractions for it, if not answering your stupid questions meant to be a ban, then so be it.

no, you didnt "hurted" my ego.

You attempted to make a point based off of data you dont have like a retard. Barking about power generation capacity, would be a great point if you had the numbers for Chinese engines.

Theres one key aspect that differentiates hypernationalist Indians and every other blind nationalist. Indians are the ONLY one to continuously look down on their adversary. You do understand, that you jerking off to imaginary talking points and trying to talk everything down in a real conflict wont matter right? You understand you can sit here and "huehuehu fake 5th gen" all you want, but that wont change the reality of a Chinese PL-15 swatting your pilots out of the sky... all from their hueuhe fake 5th gen. Just a reminder, not long ago your kind were coping about SAC's new aircraft.

 

[Indos]

what is CDR design?

Typo

What I mean is Critical Design Review

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Seeing the Be-HAL of the Bharati defense projects, run otherwise by technically sound folks, I am contemplating on what brings so much success to the similar Turkish projects in the giants like ASELSAN, ROKETSAN, STM, TUSAS, Baykar etc...

The following "soul searching" is from my own experience of working with the folks from those companies. And, the "genes" of those engineers get embossed onto their "DNA" at the institutions like my alma mater. Here're the main points:

• Yes we can "problem solving" mindset with quite a dose of being dare devils, especially for the male folks [either I'll take Constantinople, or Constantinople will take me]. It's called the singularity of purpose and mind emanating from the depth of the Tevhid
• Genius is nothing but infinite capacity to take pains
• Speak your mind out
• Risk taking attitude [they take pride in their extremely dangerous driving skills]
• Caring bosses
• Comradeship
• 24/7 work habit with the Ashk-i Ibadet
• No Kurban, no Dava
• Prove yourselves to the world for your forefathers have repeatedly done that
• A Turk has no friend other than another Turk
• Turkey is surrounded by enemies on four sides, and she's their last father/motherland
• Iman and Ihlas for what they're doing
• Being emotionally attached to their projects
• Etc.

There're many trillion-dollar companies with employees having million-dollar stock options in the world, but whose employees can run with such excitement like this seeing a touch of success in their project? Can you buy it with money alone?

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[kaku]

no, you didnt "hurted" my ego.

You attempted to make a point based off of data you dont have like a retard. Barking about power generation capacity, would be a great point if you had the numbers for Chinese engines.

Theres one key aspect that differentiates hypernationalist Indians and every other blind nationalist. Indians are the ONLY one to continuously look down on their adversary. You do understand, that you jerking off to imaginary talking points and trying to talk everything down in a real conflict wont matter right? You understand you can sit here and "huehuehu fake 5th gen" all you want, but that wont change the reality of a Chinese PL-15 swatting your pilots out of the sky... all from their hueuhe fake 5th gen. Just a reminder, not long ago your kind were coping about SAC's new aircraft.

And here it is, you never wanted any answers. Looks like it actually hurted quite alot.

I don’t live in la la land, one needs to be clear what Chinese are capable of, what we are of, and what Americans are capable of.

And I haven’t answered you, because I knew you don’t want answers, because you already made up your mind.

And if you want to doubt Americans, do at your own peril.

 

[Ak01]

And here it is, you never wanted any answers. Looks like it actually hurted quite alot.

I don’t live in la la land, one needs to be clear what Chinese are capable of, what we are of, and what Americans are capable of.

And I haven’t answered you, because I knew you don’t want answers, because you already made up your mind.

And if you want to doubt Americans, do at your own peril.

No, i doubt your capacity to actually prove a valid point.

I dont care about the Chinese, infact, i am highly critical of them.

However, i am also highly critical of people who bark nonsense and talk out of their backside- the usual offenders, you, DDG, etc.

When you actually are able to bring facts to the table, let me know, until then, back to the kennel.

 

[RealDeal]

Now, let me explain how the Turkish giants like ASELSAN, ROKETSAN, STM, TUSAS, Baykar etc. work. This is from my own experience with working with the folks from those companies. And, the "genes" of those engineers get embossed onto their "DNA" at the institutions like my alma mater. Here're the main points:

• Yes we can "problem solving" mindset with quite a dose of being dare devils, especially for the male folks
• Genius is nothing but infinite capacity to take pains
• Speak your mind out
• Risk taking attitude [they take pride in their extremely dangerous driving skills]
• Caring bosses
• Comradeship
• 24/7 work habit with the Ashk-i Ibadet
• No Kurban, no Dava
• Prove yourselves to the world for your forefathers have repeatedly done that
• A Turk has no friend other than another Turk
• Turkey is surrounded by enemies on four sides, and she's their last father/motherland
• Iman and Ihlas for what they're doing
• Being emotionally attached to their projects
• Etc.

There're many trillion-dollar companies with employees having million-dollar stock options in the world, but whose employees can run like this seeing a touch of success in their project?

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Blah blah Turkey this Turkey that. Dude you are not even Turkish, you are just someone who has seen way too much Ertagrool…this is like phull sapport saar carried to the next level. Do you expect everyone here to gape in awe at your rubbish turkish quotes? No one here apart from you has this homo-erotic fascination with Turley and no one really cares.

 

[kaku]

No, i doubt your capacity to actually prove a valid point.

I dont care about the Chinese, infact, i am highly critical of them.

However, i am also highly critical of people who bark nonsense and talk out of their backside- the usual offenders, you, DDG, etc.

When you actually are able to bring facts to the table, let me know, until then, back to the kennel.

If you think that, be my guest, put me in ignore list, or keep the infractions coming. I am not here to change your mindset.

 

[Ak01]

If you think that, be my guest, put me in ignore list, or keep the infractions coming. I am not here to change your mindset.

yes, we are looking to weed out trolls from the forum anyway.

 

[agidest]

Blah blah Turkey this Turkey that. Dude you are not even Turkish, you are just someone who has seen way too much Ertagrool…this is like phull sapport saar carried to the next level. Do you expect everyone here to gape in awe at your rubbish turkish quotes? No one here apart from you has this homo-erotic fascination with Turley and no one really cares.

yes, we are looking to weed out trolls from the forum anyway.

Wait, is this guy Hakikat something not Turkish?

 

[kaku]

yes, we are looking to weed out trolls from the forum anyway.

Never asked it, but good for you. Best of luck.

 

[Ak01]

Wait, is this guy Hakikat something not Turkish?

i dont know, to be honest, i dont really care either

 

[RealDeal]

Wait, is this guy Hakikat something not Turkish?

Nope, just the Pakistani version of Phull Sapport Saar. He loves bringing up Turkey everywhere, saying Turkish words and phrases.... pretending he dropped the mike and brought down the house, while no one really understands these words..its strange to say the least. In any case, if he wants to self identify as Turkish, its his right.

My apologies for detracting from the thread topic, but knowing that it is HAL, we will be here for 2 decades at least.

 

[agidest]

Holy crap. Just saw that he is Bangladeshi! What kind of inferiority complex does this guy have!